Sky Soldier Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) In preparation for the release of Fire Emblem Fates in Japan, this is the topic where most of the new Class information should be posted. The following information is welcome: 1. Class promotion branches 2. Weapons used by each class 3. Max Stats of each class 4. Promotion Gains/Losses 5. Any non-Skill innate characteristics (i.e. Trueblades get an automatic 15% crit bonus) Hoshido Class Information: Samurai (Katana) [[Promotes to Trueblade, Weapon Master]]Lance Fighter (Naginata) [[Promotes to Holy Lancer, Basara]]Pegasus Warrior (Naginata) [[Promotes to Falcon Warrior, Golden Kite Warrior]]Oni Savage (Club) [[Promotes to Shura, Blacksmith]]Spellcaster (Spell) [[Promotes to Basara, Exorcist]]Ninja (Shuriken) [[Promotes to Puppeteer, Jonin]]Bowman (Yumi) [[Promotes to Holy Bowman, Golden Kite Warrior]]Priest (Baton) [[Promotes to Mountain Priest, Exorcist]]Miko (Baton) [[Promotes to War Priestess, Exorcist]]Fox Spirit (Beaststone) [[Promotes to Nine-Tailed Fox]] Merchant (Yumi) [[Promotes to Grand Merchant, Puppeteer]]Villager (Naginata) [[Promotes to Grand Merchant, Weapon Artist ????]]White Tribe (Katana, Baton, Dragonstone)Trueblade (Katana)Weapon Master (Katana, Naginata, Club)Holy Lancer (Naginata)Basara (Naginata, Spells)Falcon Warrior (Naginata, Baton)Golden Kite Warrior (Naginata, Yumi)Shura (Club, Spells)Blacksmith (Club, Katana)Exorcist/Taoist (Spells, Baton)Jonin (Shuriken, Katana)Puppeteer (Shuriken, Yumi) Grand Merchant (Naginata, Yumi)Holy Bowman (Yumi)Mountain Priest (Naginata, Baton)War Priestess (Yumi, Baton)Nine-Tailed Fox (Beaststone) Base Stats (My attempt to make a nice chart failed, but....) Hoshido Str Mag Skl Spd Luc Def Res Mov Songstress Samurai 4 0 5 8 3 3 3 5 Lance Fighter 6 0 6 6 2 5 2 5 Pegasus Warrior 3 0 5 7 4 2 6 7 Oni Savage 6 1 2 5 0 7 1 5 Spellcaster 0 4 5 6 1 1 3 5 Ninja 3 0 8 8 1 3 3 5 Bowman 5 0 7 5 2 4 1 5 Priest/Miko 0 3 5 5 4 2 5 5 Fox Spirit 5 1 6 8 4 1 4 Merchant 6 0 4 4 2 6 2 5 Villager 5 0 4 5 3 4 0 5 White Tribe 10 4 5 6 4 7 3 6 Dread Fighter 8 3 6 8 1 6 9 6 Trueblade 6 2 7 11 4 5 5 6 Weapon Master 8 0 6 9 3 7 3 6 Holy Lancer 9 0 8 8 3 7 3 6 Basara 7 5 7 7 5 7 6 6 Falcon Warrior 5 4 6 10 5 5 9 8 Golden Kite Warrior 4 1 9 8 5 4 7 8 Shura 9 5 2 7 0 10 5 6 Blacksmith 8 0 9 8 3 8 2 6 Exorcist 0 7 6 7 2 3 6 6 Jonin 5 0 10 11 2 4 8 6 Puppeteer 7 0 9 7 2 6 6 7 Holy Bowman 7 0 10 9 3 6 2 6 Mountain Priest 8 6 6 8 5 6 7 6 War Priestess 6 7 6 9 5 5 8 6 Grand Merchant 8 0 6 5 4 8 5 6 Nine-Tailed Fox 6 2 9 10 5 2 8 Nohr Class Information: Dark Prince/Dark Princess (Sword, Dragonstone) [[Promotes to Dark Blood, White Tribe]] Mercenary (Sword) [[Promotes to Hero, Bow Knight]] Cavalier (Sword, Lance) [[Promotes to Paladin, Great Knight]] Knight (Lance) [[Promotes to Great Knight, General]] Fighter (Axe) [[Promotes to Berserker, Hero]] Dragon Rider (Axe) [[Promotes to Dragon Master, Revenant Knight]] Dark Mage (Magic) [[Promotes to Sorcerer, Dark Knight]] Outlaw (Bow) [[Promotes to Adventurer, Bow Knight]] Rod Knight (Staff) [[Promotes to Strategist, Maid/Butler]] Garou (????) [[Promotes to Managarm]] Dark Blood (Sword, Dragonstone, Magic) Hero (Sword, Axe) Bow Knight (Sword, Bow) Paladin (Sword, Lance) Great Knight (Sword, Lance, Axe) General (Lance, Axe) Berserker (Axe) Dragon Master (Axe, Lance) Revenant Knight (Axe, Magic) Sorcerer (Magic) Dark Knight (Magic, Sword) Adventurer (Bow, Staff) Strategist (Magic, Staff) Maid/Butler (Kunai, Staff) Managarm (????) Base Stats Nohr Str Mag Skl Spd Luc Def Res Mov Dark Prince/Princess 7 3 4 5 2 5 2 5 Mercenary Cavalier Knight Fighter 7 0 6 6 2 4 1 5 Dragon Knight 6 0 5 4 2 7 0 7 Dark Mage 0 6 3 3 1 3 5 5 Outlaw 3 1 4 8 1 2 4 5 Rod Knight 0 3 7 5 4 1 4 7 Garou Dark Blood 8 6 4 7 2 6 6 6 Hero Bow Knight 6 0 8 9 3 5 6 8 Paladin 8 1 7 7 4 7 6 8 Great Knight 9 0 6 6 3 9 2 7 General 11 0 7 3 4 12 3 5 Berserker 12 0 8 9 0 5 0 6 Dragon Master Revenant Knight 7 6 6 5 0 8 6 8 Sorcerer Dark Knight 8 6 6 5 3 8 6 8 Adventurer Strategist 0 7 6 7 5 2 7 8 Maid/Butler 4 5 9 8 4 5 4 6 Managarm Dark Falcon Other/ Special Classes Dread Fighter (Sword, Hidden, Axe) Dark Falcon (Lance, Magic) Ballistician - Outrealm. (Bows, Turrets)Witch - Outrealm. (Magic, +Rewarp)Lodestar - Outrealm. (Sword)Vanguard - Outrealm. (Sword, Axes)Great Lord - Outrealm. (Swords, Lances)Grandmaster - Outrealm. (Swords, Magic) Spoiler-y Classes Songstress (Naginata) [[No Promotion]] Dark Lord - Garon's Class Dark Dragon - Garon's Transformation Invisible Dragon - Aqua/Azura's Transformation ? CLASS SKILLS should NOT really be posted here but should instead be placed in the separate Skills thread. I won't get angry if you do post them, though. MAX STATS should include the class AND the character until it is established whether or not the max stats are different for each person like in Awakening. PROMOTION GAINS can include parallel seal changes so that we can calculate class base stats. SPOILERS: In general, as the classes are mainly a gameplay mechanic, this is a non-spoiler thread so please do not feel the need to spoiler tag most of the information. PLEASE note the exceptions: 1) Unique Classes that we don't know about yet (Boss OR Ally): These should be spoiler tagged, especially if the name of the class is incredibly suggestive (i.e. Dark Dragon, Divine Dragon, Nohr King, Hoshido Queen, etc.). 2) Aqua/Azura: It is not a coincidence that she was not included in the Class videos that Nintendo posted. Please spoiler tag any information about her promotions (if any) until we have more information. 3) If you are posting the max stats of a character that is not generally known from the pre-release info, please spoiler tag the name of the character. Edited June 25, 2015 by Sky Soldier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egobarrier Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Dengeki confirmed Fox Spirits use Beaststones. http://www.perfectly-nintendo.com/wp-content/gallery/dengeki-nintendo-20-06-2015/DN0815-57.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laie Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Rumour has it that dread fighter and a new merchant like class are showed in main menu class demo. Based Odin Dread Fighter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstraSage Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 (edited) Rumour has it that dread fighter and a new merchant like class are showed in main menu class demo. Based Odin Dread Fighter! It has be reported Dread Fighter is present as a Special Class that still wields Sword, Tomes Hidden Weapons & Axes and which you get two copies of (like in Awakening) a Dedicated Reclass Item for it as part of the bonus for buying Two Routes. There's yet to know if a third and more copies could be available via DLC. Likewise, the bonus for buying all the Three Routes seems to be (and I really need a confirmation or refusal) Two copies of Something to Reclass Units into a Dark Falcon, a supposedly Lance/Staff/Tome-wielding Class which, if it were true, would throw a wrench to the idea of the Revenant Knight being the replacement for the Dark Flier, as well as imply the possibility of Galeforce pretty much being a DLC Skill... Edited June 24, 2015 by AstraSage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marros Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 It has be reported Dread Fighter is present as a Special Class that still wields Sword, Tomes & Axes and which you get two copies of (like in Awakening) a Dedicated Reclass Item for it as part of the bonus for buying Two Routes. There's yet to know if a third and more copies could be available via DLC. Likewise, the bonus for buying all the Three Routes seems to be (and I really need a confirmation or refusal) Two copies of Something to Reclass Units into a Dark Falcon, a supposedly Lance/Staff/Tome-wielding Class which, if it were true, would throw a wrench to the idea of the Revenant Knight being the replacement for the Dark Flier, as well as imply the possibility of Galeforce pretty much being a DLC Skill... I believe Dread Fighter was said to use Swords, Axes and Hidden weapons this time around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirokan Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 The text dump provides all the class info from what I saw. I'm still sifting through character profiles, but feel free to take a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Ehehehe, I don't want to spoil myself, but is there any info regarding a Galeforce skill in that dump? I assume there's skill info right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 (edited) Ehehehe, I don't want to spoil myself, but is there any info regarding a Galeforce skill in that dump? I assume there's skill info right? The skill icons found in the game include one that appears to be Galeforce, but I do not know of any word on if it's actually available ingame or if/how it's been balanced if so. Edited June 24, 2015 by Othin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 (edited) The skill icons found in the game include one that appears to be Galeforce, but I do not know of any word on if it's actually available ingame or if/how it's been balanced if so. Thanks bud. Also, is there a unique promotion for the Avatar on the third path? If so, what weapons does he get? Sorry... I am just too curious... I promise this is my last question!! Edited June 24, 2015 by Leif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstraSage Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 (edited) I believe Dread Fighter was said to use Swords, Axes and Hidden weapons this time around. The Weapon Change makes a lot of sense both W.Triangle Coverage-wise and aesthetic-wise because it was the Ninja class before the Actual Ninjas... I have to thank Kirokan for the Text Dump, because it confirmed Dread Fighter uses Hidden Weapon instead of Tomes, and that the Dark Falcon is upfront the Lance/Tome-wielding Dark Flier (so Yes, 85% of Galeforce being DLC), as well as that the Classes are listed inside as an In-order Tree Traversal Array: It usually starts with a Promoted Class followed by the Base Class it promotes from, and later the Alternate Promotion for the previous base class. Then it can either go to a Base Class that Shares the promotion or mark the End of a Class Tree by Jumping to the Start of Another. The pattern is slightly broken by three cases: 1) Gender-locked Class Variants, which signal being in the same level by keeping the Male/Female listing order; 2) Base Classes with only one Promotion, which have said Promotion go after them; and 3) Special Classes, which are on their lonesome at the end of the Array: That said, Class Trees go in the following way : Dark Blood (Sword, Tome, Stone) <-- Dark(aka. Nohr) Prince/ss (Sword, Stone) --> White Tribe (Sword, Staff, Stone) [Neutral Tree, Branching Most likely noticeable in the 3rd Path] Paladin (Sword, Lance) <-- Cavalier (Sword, Lance) --> Great Knight (Sword, Lance, Axe) <-- Knight (Lance) --> General (Lance, Axe) [Nohr Tree] Berserker (Axe) <-- Fighter (Axe) --> {Brave} Hero (Sword, Axe) <-- Mercenary (Sword) --> Bow Knight (Sword, Bow) <-- Outlaw(aka. Thief) (Bow) --> Aventurer (Bow, Staff) [Nohr Tree] Shura (Axe, Tome) <-- Oni Savage (Axe) --> Blacksmith (Sword, Axe) [Hoshido Tree] Holy Lancer (Lance) <-- Lance Fighter (Lance) --> Basara (Lance, Tome) <-- Spellcaster (Tome) --> Exorcist (Tome, Staff) <-- Priest/ess (Staff) --> Mountain Priest (Lance, Staff) / War Priestess (Bow, Staff) [Hoshido Tree] Falcon Warrior (Lance, Staff) <-- Pegasus Warrior (Lance) --> Golden-Kite Warrior (Lance, Bow) [!!!]<-- Bowman(aka. Archer) (Bow) --> Holy Bowman(aka. Sniper) (Bow) [Hoshido Tree, and Yes: I'm still surprised the Pegasus and Archer Trees are Linked] Dragon Master(aka. Wyvern Lord) (Lance, Axe) <-- Dragon(aka. Wyvern) Knight (Axe) --> Revenant Knight (Axe, Tome) [Nohr Tree] Jounin (Sword, Hidden) <-- Ninja (Hidden) --> Puppeteer (Bow, Hidden) [!!!]<-- {Medicine} Merchant (Bow) -->[!!!] Great Merchant (Lance, Bow) <-- Villager (Lance) --> Weapon Master (Sword, Lance, Axe) <-- Samurai (Sword) --> Trueblade (Sword) [Hoshido Tree, and suddenly the Big Backpack carried by a Child Character despite only being seen on a Promoted Class started to make sense...] Sorcerer (Tome) <-- Dark Mage (Tome) --> Dark Knight (Sword, Tome) [Nohr Tree] Strategist (Tome, Staff) <-- Rod Knight (Staff) --> Butler/Maid (Hidden, Staff) [Nohr Tree] Garou (Stone) --> Managarm (Stone) [Nohr Shapeshifter Tree] Fox Spirit (Stone) --> Nine-tailed Fox (Stone) [Hoshido Shapeshifter Tree] Songtress (Lance) is a Special Classes, so Aqua/Azura can't promote. Likewise in the Case of the Star Dragon (Staff, Breath) Class. Each Amiibo Character, aside of Marth and his Star Lord(aka. Lodestar) (Sword) Class, has their Ultimate Lord Promotion as their Special Class: so there's Ike's Vanguard (Sword, Axe), Lucina's Master(aka. Great) Lord (Sword, Lance) and Robin's Grandmaster (Sword, Tome) The rest are Enemy-only Classes where half might require uncovering spoilers way too earlier than it should go public... And I'm done for now. Edited now that's proven that the Samurai Class Tree has been merged to the to the Ninja/Merchant Trees via the Villager actually being capable of Promoting. Edited June 25, 2015 by AstraSage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 (edited) I didn't have time to post this last night, but some new classes: Herb Merchant - Hoshido. Wields Bows.Great Merchant - Hoshido. Wields Bows and Lances.Dread Fighter - Hoshido. Wields Sword, Axe and Kunai.Dark Falcon - Nohr. Wields Lance and Magic on a Dark Pegasus.Ballistician - Outrealm. Wields Bows and Turrets.Witch - Outrealm. Wields Magic and can Warp large distances.Lodestar - Outrealm. Marth's class. Fights with Swords.Vanguard - Outrealm. Ike's class. Uses Swords and Axes.Great Lord - Outrealm. Lucina's class. Uses Swords and Lances.Grandmaster - Outrealm. Robin's class. Uses Swords and Magic. [spoiler=STORY SPOILERS]Dark Lord - King Garon's class. Infused with the Dark Dragon's blood.Dark Dragon - Transformed GaronInvisible Dragon - One of the First Dragons. Commands water. Can see the future and control peoples' hearts. There are a handful of other classes, but they seem to be enemy only or not classes you use. Eg. Lancer, Familiar, Puppet. Dread Scroll class-changes to Dread Fighter, while the Dark Falcon Wing is used for the... well, you can guess : P Edited June 24, 2015 by VincentASM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vexian Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 The Invinsible Dragon reminds me of Aqua a lot... And how did Garon infuse himself with the Dark Dragon's blood ? Did he took it from the Dragon ? All those theories saying that Aqua and Kamui were the original dragons make me really suspicious... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstraSage Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 (edited) I might have to rearrange a few Class Trees on my last post, but can someone confirm me the Villager can promote into Great Merchant and Weapon Master? Edited June 24, 2015 by AstraSage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylphid Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 I might have to rearrange a few Class Trees on my last post, but can someone confirm me the Villager can promote into Great Merchant and Weapon Master? Can't really confirm this for sure, but I'm watching a stream with Mozume as Weapon Master. Unfortunately didn't see how she changed class Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thief Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 So Roy will not make a return. Hmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstraSage Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 (edited) So Roy will not make a return. Hmmm. It'd look like that... if we weren't living in an age of Patchable Nintendo Games. Expect an update by the time Roy's Amiibo gets released and/or him taking a page of his Awakening DLC Self and being a second Vanguard. Edited June 24, 2015 by AstraSage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord-Zero Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Or...Lucina gets to keep her Great Lord class name while Roy would get the Master Lord class name. His Awakening DLC class was Mercenary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Or...Lucina gets to keep her Great Lord class name while Roy would get the Master Lord class name. His Awakening DLC class was Mercenary. There is no such distinction. Aside from Hector, the "Great Lord" class is just the English name for the Japanese "Master Lord" class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Book of Ereshkigal Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 I am hype AF for the return of FE2 Witches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azz Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Are Witches and Balisticians DLC or actual classes already in game?Same with Dread Fighter and Dark Falcon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Soldier Posted June 24, 2015 Author Share Posted June 24, 2015 1) I'm assuming that the Dread Fighter and Dark Falcon items work like Parallel Seals? 2) Does Aqua/Azura change the color of her dress like we thought? 3) Have we figured out the level caps for unpromoted/promoted/special? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taka-kun Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 We get to see Robin in his Grandmaster outfit... with feet? Neat! Why is Dread Fighter and Dark Falcon special classes? Are they obtainable via DLC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Sun Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Mikoto is indeed a War Priestess. This video proves it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYHDukKqU-8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taka-kun Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 (edited) Mikoto is indeed a War Priestess. This video proves it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYHDukKqU-8 I... I think I just saw jiggle physics on Kagerou at 7:28. The fanservice is strong in this game. EDIT: Also, the Daisyounin at 1:37 I believe is new. A bowman that uses naginata and isn't mounted. Edited June 24, 2015 by Taka-kun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Can any unit get reclassed to the dark falcon class? Does the Dark falcon have galeforce? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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