Othin Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 That's...really weird. I wouldn't have expected that, after seeing the Treehouse footage and being so sure it was a 1-range physical attack. Then again I haven't spotted a single screenshot that showed the stats of any dragonstone, so a little help there would be appreciated. The regular Dragonstone has the following: Mt: 14 Hit: 85 Double: 0 Avoid: -10 Range: 1 Rank: E Effect: Skl -3, Spd -2, Def +4, Res +3 Also I think it gives +10 to Crit Avo but I'm not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoaGalaxy Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 WHAT. We can have a dragon stone with FIVE RANGE? Wow, this actually reminds me of Gaiden and Tear Ring Saga with ridiculous ranged attacks. Very interesting. I assume these are for the player only? Please no story spoilers ehehe... Er.....he said breaths though. Not dragonstones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someonewhodied Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 need translation on: チャイルドプルフ (Item ID 141) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryo Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 need translation on: チャイルドプルフ (Item ID 141) Child Proof (Seal)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Er.....he said breaths though. Not dragonstones. Crap, well that sounds like final boss stuff, so better steer clear of that. Child Proof (Seal)? I am honestly curious to see what this does. First Marriage proofs, now this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someonewhodied Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) 0143 - Ballistician Scroll 0144 - Witch Scroll 0145 - Paragon 0146 - [Orange Pavise/Aegis Icon] Not Brunhilde 0147 - [Pink Pavise/Aegis Icon] Not Wingshield 0148 - Wing Shield Scroll Need to know what 146 and 147 are also Edited June 26, 2015 by someonewhodied Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoaGalaxy Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Just a little thing I wanted to say is that the "Long range heal" (not sure which one it was, I think there are multiple) only healed like single digit HP. And they're expensive per use (Pretty sure the cheapest or so still costs 1500-1000g per usage), so I guess we're gonna be stuck with 1 or 1-2 range heals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eharper256 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 You know, I just realised the new Silver weapons are basically made for Pieri; as she gives not a dang about their penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoaGalaxy Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 The Water Breath looks like the weapon used by Dragon Kamui and Dragon Kanna in Chap 5 and Paralogue Kanna respectively. Garon's Axe, with his stats http://i.imgur.com/XUtAsWY.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bovinian Posted June 26, 2015 Author Share Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) Garon's Axe, with his stats http://i.imgur.com/XUtAsWY.png Holy shit that's crazy. Are all the S-rank weapons this ridiculous? Edited June 26, 2015 by Bovinian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Holy shit that's crazy. Are all the S-rank weapons this ridiculous? Based on the description, I'm 99% sure it's a personal weapon, so unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bovinian Posted June 26, 2015 Author Share Posted June 26, 2015 Based on the description, I'm 99% sure it's a personal weapon, so unlikely. Yeah it is a personal weapon. Still, it's the first of its type that I've seen, so I don't really know what to expect xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayward Alchemist Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Yeah it is a personal weapon. Still, it's the first of its type that I've seen, so I don't really know what to expect xD Can that shit double? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoaGalaxy Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) Can that shit double? Presumably yes, I see no restrictions. The other unique weapons can also double as well I don't think Garon is fast enough though, or normal anyway. Garon has Dragonskin as well, Joy. It also now reduces the effects of Skills AND Crits, not that you'll be critting due to the effect of + 20 Evade I think that axe beats everything I've seen so far in the entire series, except the Original Helswath. It may even beat Awakening's Helswath due to the extra range, 3 mt, 30 hit, plus oh, the Crit and Evade. Ridiculous indeed. Edited June 26, 2015 by CocoaGalaxy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayward Alchemist Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) Presumably yes, I see no restrictions. The other unique weapons can also double as well I don't think Garon is fast enough though, or normal anyway. Garon has Dragonskin as well, Joy. It also now reduces the effects of Skills AND Crits, not that you'll be critting due to the effect of + 20 Evade I think that axe beats everything I've seen so far in the entire series, except the Original Helswath. It may even beat Awakening's Helswath due to the extra range, 3 mt, 30 hit, plus oh, the Crit and Evade. Ridiculous indeed. Well, that'll be fun on Classic Hard Nohr mode. Also, what is his class? Edit: Don't forget the 1-3 range. Edited June 26, 2015 by JothTheConqueror Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodperson707 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) ^^ i assume you mean beats nearly every Axe in the entire series, cause most FE 4 holy weapons seem better at most things besides the extra range. Edited June 26, 2015 by goodperson707 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bovinian Posted June 26, 2015 Author Share Posted June 26, 2015 Well, that'll be fun on Classic Hard Nohr mode. Also, what is his class? Edit: Don't forget the 1-3 range. Dark Lord. Literally Garondorf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoaGalaxy Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) Well, that'll be fun on Classic Hard Nohr mode. Also, what is his class? Edit: Don't forget the 1-3 range. I was told that it's supposedly Dark Lord (Ninja'd!) Small compensation is that he can't move, like most bosses. Unfortunately, he gets throne bonuses, like 13 hp healed per turn I'm currently running the numbers for Dragonskin, it seems I was blind on the second time I watched the video Also there appear to be two, and I'd say one more for the DLC, versions of Yatogami, from what I can tell. The Yatogami being used against Garon is "Yatogami (Byakuya?)" [Yatogami (White Kingdom?)] http://i.imgur.com/YKBOJ5v.png I'm not sure what Dragonskin does, or maybe it's just Yatogami having a special property 48 ATK vs 23 Defense dealt 17 Damage, when it would normally be doing 25. 45 ATK vs 23 Defense dealt 15 Damage, when it would normally do 22. I think Yatogami changes Dragonskin to 2/3 of your normal damage, instead of halving your damage? I'm not sure of the throne bonuses though..and I need to check the other weapons as well Mozume, 45 ATK with Lance vs 23 Defense dealt 11 damage. Seems to be working, except is the Weapon Triangle ignored? Or does it just not affect damages? Edited June 26, 2015 by CocoaGalaxy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bovinian Posted June 26, 2015 Author Share Posted June 26, 2015 I was told that it's supposedly Dark Lord (Ninja'd!) Small compensation is that he can't move, like most bosses. Unfortunately, he gets throne bonuses, like 13 hp healed per turn I'm currently running the numbers for Dragonskin, it seems I was blind on the second time I watched the video Also there appear to be two, and I'd say one more for the DLC, versions of Yatogami, from what I can tell. The Yatogami being used against Garon is "Yatogami (Byakuya?)" http://i.imgur.com/YKBOJ5v.png I'm not sure what Dragonskin does, or maybe it's just Yatogami having a special property 48 ATK vs 23 Defense dealt 17 Damage, when it would normally be doing 25. 45 ATK vs 23 Defense dealt 15 Damage, when it would normally do 22. I think Yatogami changes Dragonskin to 2/3 of your normal damage, instead of halving your damage? I'm not sure of the throne bonuses though..and I need to check the other weapons as well Mozume, 45 ATK with Lance vs 23 Defense dealt 11 damage. Seems to be working, except is the Weapon Triangle ignored? Or does it just not affect damages? It does say Yatogami - Byakuya, yeah. Interestingly, I saw a version of Yatogami elsewhere that was called Yatogami - Chouya (literally Long Night), which doesn't correspond to either Hoshido or Nohr's Japanese names. Can't answer any of the mechanics-related questions at this point lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayward Alchemist Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) I was told that it's supposedly Dark Lord (Ninja'd!) Small compensation is that he can't move, like most bosses. Unfortunately, he gets throne bonuses, like 13 hp healed per turn I'm currently running the numbers for Dragonskin, it seems I was blind on the second time I watched the video Also there appear to be two, and I'd say one more for the DLC, versions of Yatogami, from what I can tell. The Yatogami being used against Garon is "Yatogami (Byakuya?)" http://i.imgur.com/YKBOJ5v.png I'm not sure what Dragonskin does, or maybe it's just Yatogami having a special property 48 ATK vs 23 Defense dealt 17 Damage, when it would normally be doing 25. 45 ATK vs 23 Defense dealt 15 Damage, when it would normally do 22. I think Yatogami changes Dragonskin to 2/3 of your normal damage, instead of halving your damage? I'm not sure of the throne bonuses though..and I need to check the other weapons as well Mozume, 45 ATK with Lance vs 23 Defense dealt 11 damage. Seems to be working, except is the Weapon Triangle ignored? Or does it just not affect damages? Oh shit this is Hoshido. Imagine GanonGaron in Nohr... Lol, he doesn't move? He just fights sitting on his ass in his throne? Edited June 26, 2015 by JothTheConqueror Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoaGalaxy Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) Oh shit this is Hoshido. Imagine GanonGaron in Nohr... Lol, he doesn't move? He just fights sitting on his ass in his throne? Cutscene power to the max at first. From his throne, he starts launching magic at you, before rushing down to meet you with his axe. When Aqua tries to do her singing power, he grabs her (by the neck) What happens next is that Ryouma's sword reacts to the Yatogami (I think), (which has already previously reacted with Takumi's Bow. This "upgrades" the Yatogami, and Kamui frees Aqua. Then map, yeah So yeah, cutscene power to the max, then we get out "power up" and/or cutscene power to the max and cancel his. Additional Note, though slightly spoilers as well I would like to add Garon's Axe to the Wiki as well, but I don't know it's name. Edited June 26, 2015 by CocoaGalaxy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryo Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 (edited) I found some Japanese sites that have info on many weapons and staves from both games. However, some are still missing and they haven't updated weapon hit rate, might and such yet. http://enjoi8.sakura.ne.jp/fe_if/ (scroll down) http://feif-wiki.com/d/%C9%F0%B4%EF Where are the Dog and Pig spells??? Edited June 27, 2015 by Ryo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bovinian Posted June 27, 2015 Author Share Posted June 27, 2015 I found some Japanese sites that have info on many weapons and staves from both games. However, some are still missing and they haven't updated weapon hit rate, might and such yet. http://enjoi8.sakura.ne.jp/fe_if/ (scroll down) http://feif-wiki.com/d/%C9%F0%B4%EF Where are the Dog and Pig spells??? Thanks! This should be really useful! Hahaha Missiletainn is Ophelia's personal tome, how cute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arvilino Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 (edited) Just noticed the information is missing but the Nohr Kunai have similar debuff effects to the Hoshido Shuriken in addition to the regular effects(like -3 double threshold for Steel). Bronze Kunai debuff: - 1 SKL, - 1 SPD, -2 DEF, -2 RES Iron Kunai debuff : -2 MAG, -3 DEF, -3 RES Fruit Knife debuff: -2 SKL, -3 DEF, - 3 RES Steel Kunai debuff: -3 STR, -4 DEF, - 4 RES Edited June 27, 2015 by arvilino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyHawlucha Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Is it confirmed that Shurikens are Hoshido exclusive and Knives are Nohr exclusive??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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