Pokémon Sun and Moon Demo leaks and Early copy leaks related discussion (Obviously spoilers)

[Ema Skye]

Yeah if there's only one left, I could really see it being Dragonite. It'd make sense with how well it's been hidden, and if we consider that they're only Gen 1 Pokemon, then it's the most suitable for a "final" Pokemon.

Watch it be Farfetch'd gone metal head though...

[Water Mage]

I'm very, very interested in the Paralysis nerf if it is true.

And something new from Serebii:

Z Move Power varies depending on the base move. Gigavolt Havoc from Thunderbolt is 175 base power. Nuzzle it has 100 and is Physical. Electro Ball it is 160 and Special.

Looks like moves like Toxic won't be able to activate Z-moves, I think.

EDIT: I posted on the other thread, but I'll post here too, because it amazes me.

There's already fanart of Alolan Dugtrio:

https://mobile.twitter.com/RoadaRollerDa/status/788222232313098245/photo/1

How are they so fast?

Edited October 18, 2016 by Water Mage

[Konnor97]

To quote Serebii's twitter, "Abandon the Internet. They didn't do a good enough job of scrubbing..."

Prepare yourselves.

Apparently there are 143 new pokemon in SM, possibly not counting alolan forms.

EDIT: Right, I guess I don't need to spoiler.

Edited October 18, 2016 by Konnor97

[Ema Skye]

Last Alolan Pokemon is Golem.

No pics yet though.

143 new Pokes definitely has me excited. That brings the total to 864.

I think they're saying Alolan Dugtrio is Ground/Fairy.

Edited October 18, 2016 by Ema Skye

[Konnor97]

"Seriously, they had done such a fantastic job with base stats, the text etc., how could they do this again. I am disappointed as hell."-Joe Merrick's twitter

Holy hell what did they do.

[Ema Skye]

"Seriously, they had done such a fantastic job with base stats, the text etc., how could they do this again. I am disappointed as hell."-Joe Merrick's twitter

Holy hell what did they do.

They literally only dummied out the stats and game's text.

EVERYTHING else is still there.

[Jedi]

Last Alolan Pokemon is Golem.

No pics yet though.

143 new Pokes definitely has me excited. That brings the total to 864.

I think they're saying Alolan Dugtrio is Ground/Fairy.

Golem? Interesting, I wonder what its typing will be.

Also Ground/Fairy? "Duuuuuuude just use this pixie dust"

[Konnor97]

<~Kaphotics> guess I should confirm alolan diglett since there's confusion

<~Kaphotics> same with graveler and geodude, persian too

Alrighty.

"Guys, I know you want to see what I have, but I'm not willing to get a cease and desist & lose the site over this. They'll come soon enough."-Joe's twitter

So we're not getting the info directly from Joe, but SciresM and Kaphotics should be good.

Edited October 18, 2016 by Konnor97

[Ema Skye]

What they left in the game is apparently big enough for Serebii to get a cease and desist from.

Serebii has done the datamining though.

Also have further confirmation of 140+ new mons.

Edited October 18, 2016 by Ema Skye

[Konnor97]

What they left in the game is apparently big enough for Serebii to get a cease and desist from.

Serebii has done the datamining though.

So yeah, everything.

On Joe's twitter "on a scale of 1 to 10 how much important stuff has come out?"

"11"

Edited October 18, 2016 by Konnor97

[Ema Skye]

Split evo starters are confirmed fakes.

Seems like the leaked starters though are legit.

[Konnor97]

Kaphotics is apparently dropping stuff in about 15 minutes.

Kaphotics confirms the first release of dumped info is in 6 minutes.

Video:

Part two coming within two hours.

Edited October 18, 2016 by Konnor97

[Ema Skye]

Fives new attacks:

Psychic terrain: buffs Psychic attacks for 5 turns. Grounded Pokemon can't be hit by Priority moves. (Does this confirm a Psychic/Fairy diety Pokemon?)

Throat Chop: Pokemon can't use sound moves for 2 turns.

Aurora Veil: halves physical and special damage for 5 turns (so light screen + reflect)

Laser Focus: the next attack this Pokemon does will be a crit

720 total moves

no new types

EDIT:

they scrubbed every model

BUT LEFT EVERY SHINY ONE!

Edited October 18, 2016 by Ema Skye

[Konnor97]

Kaphotics confirms less than 100 new mons. Seems like that 143 is forms and whatnot.

Oh yeah, Laser Focus, Throat Chop, and Aurora Veil are likely the starters' signature moves.

Edited October 18, 2016 by Konnor97

[Samias]

Aurora Veil is ridiculously good. And yeah when I think about it that does sound like it's signature moves for the starters. I wonder if Throat Chop will be dark type? Seems to fit in with Sucker Punch and Knock Off for disabling moves.

[Konnor97]

Leaked starters super confirmed.

also Alolan Diglett is the same except with 3 blond hairs sticking up.

[spoiler=More Images]

Edited October 18, 2016 by Konnor97

[Sunwoo]

Leaked starters super confirmed.

IT'S PIIIIIIIINK. WHY IS IT PIIIIIIINK.

Okay it's not really that pink

Edited October 18, 2016 by Sunwoo

[Konnor97]

[Samias]

Oh my goodness Alolan Golem... what am I even looking at?! Dugtrio was goofy but... uh...

Also fat derpy Persian nooooo....

More thoughts:

Looks like we have a proper bug/water type that won't go off and evolve into something else. I get the feeling deep sea diving will be back with some of those freaky water type creatures? The sea urchin Pokemon also appeared on some TCG packaging.

Edited October 18, 2016 by Samias

[Jedi]

Oh my goodness Alolan Golem... what am I even looking at?! Dugtrio was goofy but... uh...

Also fat derpy Persian nooooo....

Now I want Golem to be a Pro Wrestler.

[Leif]

What have they done to your face, Alolan Persian? You look like Garfield of all things. The other alolan forms are very underwhelming. Golem looks horrid. -_-

[Konnor97]

Don't think there'll much more because the demo was somewhat scrubbed besides shinies.

Oh yeah, UB have shiny models so...

I think Crabrawler evolves into the yeti crab with that new Ice Stone. Ice/Fighting sounds like a great type.

Edited October 18, 2016 by Konnor97

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

IDK what to think about the new Para

50% Speed Drop is a drop from -6 all the way to -2, and notable enough had something like base Clefable unable to outspeed +Nature Salamence. This is huge if all you want to use Para for is Speed Control. You can even outplay full Para Prio by using a second dances

On the other hand Full Para is still there

Like idk, the main reason Para is such a cancer was the full Para.

Edited October 18, 2016 by JSND

[Konnor97]

[Magical Glace]

It's a pity the starter leaks were real. I guess I'm picking Rowlet.

Also, apparent evolving legendaries, eh? That's unexpected.

Edit: Also, dear GameFreak, people actually liked Gen V, surprise surprise, now stop shafting it.

Edited October 18, 2016 by Glaceon Mage