shadowofchaos Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, Ice Dragon said: You just realized? I'm a casual compared to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 19 minutes ago, MaskedAmpharos said: I have a +Def/-Res Oboro and a +Def/-Spd Oboro (which could be better if I decide to go Ignis instead of Bonfire, but I'm not sure yet). I also have the fodder and the feathers necessary to 5* her and give her Killer Lance+, QR 3, Bonfire, Reposition, and the Hone/Fortify skill of my choice. If I really wanted to, I would have no problems making an ideal Oboro. Don't underestimate how far I'm willing to go out of spite >:D +Def isn't +Atk home boy, so your "ideal Oboro" isn't exactly "ideal". Calm down ;) And if you really cared, you wouldn't be moronic enough to even consider Ignus over Bonfire. You can go ahead and promote your Oboro if you want. I'd never be mad at more people throwing feathers at the best spear in the game anyway ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, Arcanite said: +Def isn't +Atk home boy, so your "ideal Oboro" isn't exactly "ideal". Calm down ;) And if you really cared, you wouldn't be moronic enough to even consider Ignus over Bonfire. You can go ahead and promote your Oboro if you want. I'd never be mad at more people throwing feathers at the best spear in the game anyway ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I've heard MrSmokestack also say +Def is preferrable. The Strategists Three need to reach a consensus on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedAmpharos Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Just now, Arcanite said: And if you really cared, you wouldn't be moronic enough to even consider Ignis over Bonfire. You can go ahead and promote your Oboro if you want. I'd never be mad at more people throwing feathers at the best spear in the game anyway ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I'm perfectly happy with my Ephraim and Sharena and don't love Oboro enough to throw feathers at the worst spear infantry in the game though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaden Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, GuiltyLove said: +2 to all stats for all allies who are at least three spaces away from him 5 minutes ago, Ice Dragon said: 10 Atk. -2 Atk, Spd, Def, and Res for each adjacent ally. I was thinking of something like if you have a Cat tome equipped, then you can stand on mountains while Dolphin tomes would let them stand on water. Note: "stand on". Does not mean you can actually move onto those tiles. :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedAmpharos Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Just now, Kaden said: I was thinking of something like if you have a Cat tome equipped, then you can stand on mountains while Dolphin tomes would let them stand on water. Note: "stand on". Does not mean you can actually move onto those tiles. :p I can't wait for tomes that let us stand on lava. (What would that even be? Salamander?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaden Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, MaskedAmpharos said: I can't wait for tomes that let us stand on lava. (What would that even be? Salamander?) Aren't there only 3 maps with lava? Also, Bear tomes letting mages stand on forests. Oh, wait, that negates the one problem of cavalry mages and is utterly useless for all the other mages. So, better not make that inheritable for mounted mages. Edited May 31, 2017 by Kaden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said: I've heard MrSmokestack also say +Def is preferrable. The Strategists Three need to reach a consensus on this. PREFERABLE vs. IDEAL Preferable: more desirable or suitable. Ideal: most suitable Ahem. 8 minutes ago, MaskedAmpharos said: I'm perfectly happy with my Ephraim and Sharena and don't love Oboro enough to throw feathers at the worst spear infantry in the game though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ That's perfectly fine with me lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedAmpharos Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Kaden said: Aren't there only 3 maps with lava? Also, Bear tomes letting mages stand on forests. Oh, wait, that negates the one problem of cavalry mages and is utterly useless on for all the other mages. So, better not make that inheritable for mounted mages. That also negates one of the main strengths of cavalry mages. Blade tomes are what make cavalry mages so powerful (except Reinhardt) because horses get access to +6 Atk/Spd and Def/Res buffs. Reinhardt would lose Dire Thunder, which is the only reason he's so good. It would be fine on horse mages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Arcanite said: PREFERABLE vs. IDEAL Preferable: more desirable or suitable. Ideal: most suitable Ahem. Preferable to yours = more ideal than yours. Not even a valid correction lol. Edited May 31, 2017 by SatsumaFSoysoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said: Preferable to yours = more ideal than yours. Not even a valid correction lol. Not-so-great = +HP +Res Okayish = +Spd Preferable (more suitable than the others)= +Def +Atk Ideal (the most suitable) = +Atk Never said preferable to mine. That was what you said lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Just now, Arcanite said: Not-so-great = +HP +Res Okayish = +Spd Preferable (more suitable than the others)= +Def +Atk Ideal (the most suitable) = +Atk Never said preferable to mine. That was what you said lol. ???????????????? 26 minutes ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said: I've heard MrSmokestack also say +Def is preferrable. The Strategists Three need to reach a consensus on this. I said +Def is preferable, which means better than your suggestion of +Atk. So if you say +Atk is ideal and I say +Def is preferable to yours, that means +Def is ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Just now, SatsumaFSoysoy said: I said +Def is preferable, which means better than your suggestion of +Atk. So if you say +Atk is ideal and I say +Def is preferable to yours, that means +Def is ideal. No, it just means your preferences are wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Ice Dragon said: No, it just means your preferences are wrong. It's not even my preference in the first place, this is just about Engrish. @Arcanite And what I'm saying is, the other two Strategists say otherwise. UGH! Edited May 31, 2017 by SatsumaFSoysoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Just now, SatsumaFSoysoy said: ???????????????? I said +Def is preferable, which means better than your suggestion of +Atk. So if you say +Atk is ideal and I say +Def is preferable to yours, that means +Def is ideal. That's what I'm saying You said +Def is preferable, to mine in particular I'm saying +Def and +Atk are preferable to ALL other natures, but +Atk is ideal In other words: I'm saying +Def AND +Atk are more suitable natures, but +Atk is the most suitable. 4 minutes ago, Ice Dragon said: No, it just means your preferences are wrong. Precisely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said: @Arcanite And what I'm saying is, the other two Strategists say otherwise. UGH! Well I'm not going to stand here and say my strategists have no idea what they're talking about, but I'm sure they both know what's what We'll talk it over in private Sorry for misunderstanding what you were saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegis Gray Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 So how unnecessarily overkill would it be if Linde was +Speed, had Darting Blow, and could have Dire Thunder? Sadly she can't, but watching the carnage that would follow would be amazing to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaden Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 42 minutes ago, MaskedAmpharos said: That also negates one of the main strengths of cavalry mages. Blade tomes are what make cavalry mages so powerful (except Reinhardt) because horses get access to +6 Atk/Spd and Def/Res buffs. Reinhardt would lose Dire Thunder, which is the only reason he's so good. It would be fine on horse mages. Hey, trying to make terrible tomes here. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DehNutCase Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 45 minutes ago, MaskedAmpharos said: That also negates one of the main strengths of cavalry mages. Blade tomes are what make cavalry mages so powerful (except Reinhardt) because horses get access to +6 Atk/Spd and Def/Res buffs. Reinhardt would lose Dire Thunder, which is the only reason he's so good. It would be fine on horse mages. Reinhardt is actually pretty absurd from just his spread and color---seriously, run the numbers with -blade on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedAmpharos Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 15 minutes ago, DehNutCase said: Reinhardt is actually pretty absurd from just his spread and color---seriously, run the numbers with -blade on him. I mean if you used Kaden's forest tome, you wouldn't be able to slap Blade on Reinhardt. But I'll concede that he isn't completely worthless without Dire Thunder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 What if they made a tome that had 2-3 range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) I have a +def -res Oboro who is 5-star and has a killer lance+. Although I haven't used her a lot because I've been busy SP grinding and trying to level up certain other characters. Also, I will make an attempt to pull any character that comes with a dolphin tome, even if I don't like them, just for the tome. Edited May 31, 2017 by Sunwoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaden Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said: What if they made a tome that had 2-3 range Oh joy, it'd be like Ursula with Bolting all over again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 4 minutes ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said: What if they made a tome that had 2-3 range What if Ragnarok had 2-3 range? It could do taxes in multiple countries :O Real talk, if they did that, the game would just be over. Unless it was character specific AND the person who had it also had garbage stats. In which case, it wold be a waste of time unfortunately :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Arcanite said: What if Ragnarok had 2-3 range? It could do taxes in multiple countries :O Real talk, if they did that, the game would just be over. Unless it was character specific AND the person who had it also had garbage stats. In which case, it wold be a waste of time unfortunately :/ But what if Oboro had a Lance that could only hit at 3 range! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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