Ice Dragon Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, DehNutCase said: Scrubs merging Reinhardt rather than running Reinhardt emblem, the only team worth running. *Elitist noises* They're preparing for their +10 Reinhardt Emblem team, clearly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, Ice Dragon said: They're preparing for their +10 Reinhardt Emblem team, clearly. Damn its one Reinhardt short before it can be called Fortifyve Reinhardt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Hey, I actually managed to pull a Reinhardt on his banner! He's +res -spd, which is not -atk, so I'm perfectly happy with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 12 minutes ago, DehNutCase said: Scrubs merging Reinhardt rather than running Reinhardt emblem, the only team worth running. *Elitist noises* 4 Gunters + 4 Kleins + 4 Reinhardts = DEATH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, JSND said: Damn its one Reinhardt short before it can be called Fortifyve Reinhardt But you'd still be able to run Fortifourcation Reinhardt every other arena season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Question, would a team of 40+10 attack boon death blow hone cavalry goad cavalry Reinhardts be able to kill an unmarked resistance bane Julia? And if so, by how much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DehNutCase Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Sunwoo said: Question, would a team of 40+10 attack boon death blow hone cavalry goad cavalry Reinhardts be able to kill an unmarked resistance bane Julia? And if so, by how much? L&D -blade Reinhardt at +0 with full buffs (that is, +6 to all stats, don't run goads) 1RKOs default Julia. (That said, it's far safer to run the Close Counter build instead and rely on Vantage killing Julia during EP, otherwise Rein is too far forward.) You can also just pack a Leo in your team of 3 Reins and 1 Leo. Edited June 22, 2017 by DehNutCase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Ah, okay. I just had the impression that Julia would completely wall him under almost all circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 1 minute ago, DehNutCase said: L&D -blade Reinhardt at +0 with full buffs 1RKOs default Julia. Lol blade tome Reinhardt You're funny :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DehNutCase Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, Arcanite said: Lol blade tome Reinhardt You're funny :P -Blade Reinhardt has over 100 OHKOs on defense and on offense. If default Reinhardt is A/B/C/A/A in terms of offense/defense/counter-kill/mobility/support needed, -blade Reinhardt is A/A/A/A/C. Edited June 22, 2017 by DehNutCase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Sunwoo said: Question, would a team of 40+10 attack boon death blow hone cavalry goad cavalry Reinhardts be able to kill an unmarked resistance bane Julia? And if so, by how much? You can do it with full power +14 Reinhardt with Seal of Orichalcos:  Reinhardt gains 6 attack by initiating combat [Death Blow 3]. Julia gains 2 defense by getting attacked [Naga]. Julia gains 2 resistance by getting attacked [Naga]. Reinhardt attacks. Triangle disadvantage reduces attack by 20%. 17 damage dealt.Julia HP: 42 → 25 Reinhardt attacks again immediately [Dire Thunder]. Triangle disadvantage reduces attack by 20%. Resolve combat as if opponent suffered a 30% defense/resistance reduction [Moonbow]. 28 damage dealt.Julia HP: 25 → 0 The fuck if i know if Reinhardt can break TA3 Julia. He shouldn't. Edited June 22, 2017 by JSND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuiltyLove Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 This talk of Reinhardt is making me want to hurt someone If I pull a Reinhardt then I'm sacrificing him as Vantage fodder!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintessence Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Sunwoo said: Ah, okay. I just had the impression that Julia would completely wall him under almost all circumstances. If my calcs aren't terrible a +10 Rein with Death Blow 3, Hone buff and +12 from spur/goad would orko even +Res Julias (neutral HP) at default level with no Res buffs/spurs. If she's +10, Rein would double her and kill her unless she equips Fury 3 and/or Tomebreaker B 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 29 minutes ago, GuiltyLove said: I really have this strange urge to turn violent all of a sudden. I wonder why Just the hormones, big sis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Quintessence said: If my calcs aren't terrible a +10 Rein with Death Blow 3, Hone buff and +12 from spur/goad would orko even +Res Julias (neutral HP) at default level with no Res buffs/spurs. If she's +10, Rein would double her and kill her unless she equips Fury 3 and/or Tomebreaker B 3. Jeez, Reinhardt is more OP than I thought. I mean, I expected a +10 Reinhardt to kill a +0 Julia with a res bane at least, but he can even kill a +10 Julia under certain circumstances? Reinhardt, I like you and all, but you don't need to be THAT OP lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DehNutCase Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) 17 minutes ago, JSND said: The fuck if i know if Reinhardt can break TA3 Julia. He shouldn't. Dragon Fang Heavy Blade -Blade tome Reinhardt variants should OHKO her without issue---that said, Olwen is better for that role, having the speed to charge Dragon Fang quickly. (+6/6/0/2 is enough for +Atk, Heavy Blade, -Blade tome Reinhardt to OHKO through TA-3, Olwen needs +6/6/4/2 but has a easier time charging Dragon Fang.) Â Edit: This works because -blade tomes add directly to the Atk stat, meaning Heavy Blade is always active (unless you're hitting other -blade tomers) and Dragon Fang gets buffed like crazy. Double Edit: My stand, 'Thunder's Fist,' has no weaknesses! Edited June 22, 2017 by DehNutCase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuiltyLove Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Just now, SatsumaFSoysoy said: Just the hormones, big sis. It's that time of the month... Spoiler TO GRIND YOU TO DUST  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, GuiltyLove said: It's that time of the month...  Reveal hidden contents TO GRIND YOU TO DUST  What can I do to calm you down? I have 17k feathers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Sunwoo said: Jeez, Reinhardt is more OP than I thought. I mean, I expected a +10 Reinhardt to kill a +0 Julia with a res bane at least, but he can even kill a +10 Julia under certain circumstances? Reinhardt, I like you and all, but you don't need to be THAT OP lol Quint's calculation is actually unpossible lol  Maximum you can get Hone+Goad/Spur that can be stacked on one unit is +14 which is 1 Hone Bot + 2 Goad unless theres a weapon with that effect  That being said:  3 Stack Goad Reinhardt have JUST ENOUGH speed to outspeed neutral +10 Julia with Fury A slot. This allows Reinhardt to safely 3HKO Julia Dragon Fang 3 Stack Goad Reinhardt will then one shot the next Julia A way to optimize this is to run Life and Death Reinhardt with +SPD Boon Edited June 22, 2017 by JSND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Oh, wait, two goads stack on top of each other? I didn't know that. Do two spur attacks/defense/whatever stack as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, Sunwoo said: Oh, wait, two goads stack on top of each other? I didn't know that. Do two spur attacks/defense/whatever stack as well? Spur stacks with each other and did not contribute to Blade Spur and Goad is the same thing only difference is Spur having adjacent as a condition while Goad is 2 Panel  Its as silly as it sounds yeah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Sunwoo said: Oh, wait, two goads stack on top of each other? I didn't know that. Do two spur attacks/defense/whatever stack as well? All buffs that say "in-battle" stack with each other. Spur, Goad, Ward, Drive, Blow, and weapons with built-in Blow all stack with each other. Edited June 22, 2017 by Ice Dragon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 It is very silly indeed. That said, I was under the impression that two spurs did not stack. Guess I was mistaken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Ice Dragon said: All buffs that say "in-battle" stack with each other. Spur, Goad, Ward, Drive, Blow, and weapons with built-in Blow stack with each other. Huh i just realized that  Blow and Spur is coded the same way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Just now, JSND said: Blow and Spur is coded the same way? "Coded" I don't know, but they're treated in the same manner for the purposes of calculations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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