Arthur97 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Anacybele said: A very slow and very limited method. Reasonable complaints. It's still a mobile game. They can't hand you everything on a silver platter. Besides, Heroes has kind of had very little to do as of late; this gives you something to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red-and-soulless Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 (edited) I cannot explain just how much this new stamina bar triggers me... I mean, I'm excited about the update and all that (especially pre-battle swapping and the sacred seals system, plus the upcoming Echoes foci), but would it have killed them to properly seperate the [xx/99] and [x:xx] components ? Edited April 12, 2017 by red-and-soulless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Anacybele said: 1. But will eventually affect me no matter what. 2. I will. 3. Okay? Then you can complain when it actually affects you because right now it doesn't and I'm perfectly willing to bet that it's going to be a long time before it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiran Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Just a small thing, but heroes no longer flinch when taking 0 dmg. Thought it was a nice touch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r_n Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 I'll say this, while I hate just HOW slow the feather grind is, I do appreciate it gives me a reason to actually do tower shenanigans between quests and get some use out of my 3 star trash pulls. And lord knows working towards 500/1000/1500/2000 merit feels better than the 15 free feathers you get per day. that's just nonsense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Arthur97 said: It's still a mobile game. They can't hand you everything on a silver platter. Besides, Heroes has kind of had very little to do as of late; this gives you something to do. Except nobody's saying everything had to be "handed to you on a silver platter?" Look how many people complained about the daily free orb going away. It's reasonable to complain about this hero merit eventually going away too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyrai Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Kiran said: Just a small thing, but heroes no longer flinch when taking 0 dmg. Thought it was a nice touch. It would be much better if it actually shows "No Damage!" instead. It's satisfying to see it whenever that happens (or gasp for breath when you deal 0 damage :P). But I get that they don't program the attacker flinching when dealing no damage, but I wonder why couldn't they just follow the GBA era type of reaction which is much easier to implement... Edited April 12, 2017 by Lyrai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcom Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Oh cool. They added a hero merit list in the Misc. section. I was going to be concerned about having to actually check the character for how much said character has. 3 minutes ago, red-and-soulless said: I cannot explain just how much this new stamina bar triggers me... I mean, I'm excited about the update and all that (especially pre-battle swapping and the sacred seals system, plus the upcoming Echoes foci), but would it have killed them to properly seperate the [xx/99] and [x:xx] components ? You're not the only one. My OCD senses are kicking in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DehNutCase Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, r_n said: I'll say this, while I hate just HOW slow the feather grind is, I do appreciate it gives me a reason to actually do tower shenanigans between quests and get some use out of my 3 star trash pulls. And lord knows working towards 500/1000/1500/2000 merit feels better than the 15 free feathers you get per day. that's just nonsense It's also a good excuse to train units from 1 to 40, which will be great whenever you decide to use them later. (Even if the IV isn't the best, merging the one you trained into the one you're planning to use will have the merged hero keep every skill the sacrifice learned.) Edit: 4 minutes ago, Falcom said: Oh cool. They added a hero merit list in the Misc. section. I was going to be concerned about having to actually check the character for how much said character has. You're not the only one. My OCD senses are kicking in. source Edited April 12, 2017 by DehNutCase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRei Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Anacybele said: Except nobody's saying everything had to be "handed to you on a silver platter?" Look how many people complained about the daily free orb going away. It's reasonable to complain about this hero merit eventually going away too. How do you compare complaining about a thing being taken away, and complaining about a thing being given? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 So much whining. I didn't even complain when I noticed that free arena orb was gone this morning because I knew there was an update coming. People need to learn patience. I'm pretty sure whoever makes this mobile game isn't stupid. Give them some credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur97 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Anacybele said: Except nobody's saying everything had to be "handed to you on a silver platter?" Look how many people complained about the daily free orb going away. It's reasonable to complain about this hero merit eventually going away too. Except this looks to be a permanent feature as it is integrated into the character pages. You are free to take your time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Maybe Faye is an archer here precisely because she couldn't be one in canon Likely because they didn't want to make Archer/Sniper/Bow Knight female models or something in SoV, but no such restrictions applies here so she gets to have it here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezzy Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Fruity Insanity said: And? Maybe you won't make use of it, but I sure as hell will. It's free feathers. F R E E. And free feathers, no matter how slow or limited it may seem (which I disagree with, btw. I think it's implemented reasonably enough), is objectively superior to no free feathers. To play Devil's Advocate, it's not really free, just another method that requires a bit of work to get. 6 minutes ago, Kiran said: Just a small thing, but heroes no longer flinch when taking 0 dmg. Thought it was a nice touch. So we get more of this? Eh, tried to link a picture, but it's not working. Edited April 12, 2017 by Rezzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astellius Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 New update, but nothing new to do. So much stamina without anything but tower to spend it on. And that stamina bar...! Did they not, like, look at it before they finalized it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r_n Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Just now, Arthur97 said: Except this looks to be a permanent feature as it is integrated into the character pages. You are free to take your time. yeah this is on par with skill inheritance, movement swapping ,etc. This is a new, permanent feature fully integrated into the game movement swapping is WONDERFUL, BY THE WAY. godddd, i wish this had been here since day 1! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, GinRei said: How do you compare complaining about a thing being taken away, and complaining about a thing being given? I'm not complaining about it being given? I'm complaining about it being limited and eventually going away just like that daily free orb. EDIT: It's not permanent though. No, the feature won't be REMOVED, but once you've maxed out all your characters' hero merit/feathers, that's it. No more hero merit and feathers from this feature. Edited April 12, 2017 by Anacybele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcom Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 To clarify, I think earning Hero Merits works the same way as SP does. I think from what Rey said, you'd have to defeat an enemy 6 levels below at most in order to earn merits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezanator Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 (edited) They also added Google play achievements. At least they are applied retroactively. Edited April 12, 2017 by Rezanator Typo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyrai Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, r_n said: I'll say this, while I hate just HOW slow the feather grind is, I do appreciate it gives me a reason to actually do tower shenanigans between quests and get some use out of my 3 star trash pulls. And lord knows working towards 500/1000/1500/2000 merit feels better than the 15 free feathers you get per day. that's just nonsense Reading from the posts regarding the pace of the Hero Merit system, I think I'll suggest on using your favorite heroes first, all the way to 2000 feathers, before going for the substitutes. Grinding characters while building up HM is a good idea as well. Take your time, it's meant to be slow and steady progress towards that goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volo Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Astellius said: New update, but nothing new to do. So much stamina without anything but tower to spend it on. And that stamina bar...! Did they not, like, look at it before they finalized it? I would argue that the update gives us a LOT to do. Hero Merit grinding is a great fill-in for whenever there isn't much else going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRei Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Anacybele said: I'm not complaining about it being given? I'm complaining about it being limited and eventually going away just like that daily free orb. It's not going away any more than the orbs you get for doing the story mode. Which is to say, they aren't. You could get them yesterday, you can get them today, and you can get them 6 months from now. The daily free orbs, however, DID go away. You could get them yesterday, but you cannot today. That's what it means to "go away". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astellius Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Just now, Volo said: I would argue that the update gives us a LOT to do. Hero Merit grinding is a great fill-in for whenever there isn't much else going on. I meant in terms of quests, maps, etc. Sure, there's a lot of grinding to be done, but that's not particularly exciting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korath88 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Stratum 10 gives me 5 merit per hero. 9 gave me only 3. Still not sure how this works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyrai Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 1 minute ago, GinRei said: It's not going away any more than the orbs you get for doing the story mode. Which is to say, they aren't. You could get them yesterday, you can get them today, and you can get them 6 months from now. The daily free orbs, however, DID go away. You could get them yesterday, but you cannot today. That's what it means to "go away". I was certainly horrified when the daily orb from the Arena quests just dissapeared yesterday. They HAVE to bring back 2 orbs per day, so that every players get at least 5 pulls for each banner for the sake of everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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