Bound Hero Battle: The Restoration Twins

[LordFrigid]

9 hours ago, Arcanite said:

I'm asking for a friend

She doesn't have much LOL

Buy I guess I'll just see if anyone else can brainstorm with me...

@LordFrigid since you have like, every unit in the game and tons of strats for fun, see anything you can make with this?

 

 

Those are my friends units 

She has an Olivia too*

I'm thinking something along the lines of using Lancina's spurs and Nino to tank the mages (she's +Spd/-Res and Fury)

Still need this? I can see what I can come up with, I guess. I don't actually have every unit though, from that particular list, I don't have Summer Robin, and my Summer Corrin is probably incompatible with any strategy that would work for your friend, unfortunately.

That said...I do like putting together "for fun" strats.

[Arcanite]

6 minutes ago, LordFrigid said:

Still need this? I can see what I can come up with, I guess. I don't actually have every unit though, from that particular list, I don't have Summer Robin, and my Summer Corrin is probably incompatible with any strategy that would work for your friend, unfortunately.

That said...I do like putting together "for fun" strats.

I already figured it out LOL

She's going to use Ike, jeroge (brave bow inherited), Nino, and Nowi 

She just needs to train Nowi up tomorrow (my friend is UK time so she's sleeping now)

The strategy is to let Nino tank the mages on the breakable block, Jeroge kills the green mage with hardy bearing, Nino steps back and kills Ephraim, while Nowi draws back Nino to safety

Ike repositions jeorge and is in range of the Dagger and Sword Guy.

From there it's pretty simple if you want to try it yourself~

[LordFrigid]

27 minutes ago, Arcanite said:

I already figured it out LOL

She's going to use Ike, jeroge (brave bow inherited), Nino, and Nowi 

She just needs to train Nowi up tomorrow (my friend is UK time so she's sleeping now)

The strategy is to let Nino tank the mages on the breakable block, Jeroge kills the green mage with hardy bearing, Nino steps back and kills Ephraim, while Nowi draws back Nino to safety

Ike repositions jeorge and is in range of the Dagger and Sword Guy.

From there it's pretty simple if you want to try it yourself~

I'll take your word for it. I think the merges I have on my Nino and Nowi are messing with enemy movements =P . I might have to see about building unmerged, no-inheritance versions of "good" units after "Operation: Death From Above, Arena Edition" is finished (only 100k feathers to go! ........ yeah it's going to be a while).

Edit: Just peeked at Maria's stat line...why is she that fast? O.o ... not gonna lie, my first instinct after that would have been to try putting something weird like Maria, Jeorge, [someone], [someone else] together =P .

Edited September 12, 2017 by LordFrigid

[Kaden]

10 hours ago, mampfoid said:

I followed your link and there was also a 4* only (Gordin, 2 Olivia, Nino) clear without SI/seals/merges/support:

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Nino and Gordin aren't free units, but they are pretty common. 

With how Infernal maps are, 4* free units-only strategies are very limiting. Off the top of my head, Alm & Celica's BHB and Berkut, Clarisse, Legion, Lloyd, and Narcian's GHB have 4*-only or lower strategies. Granted, most of those maps have defensive tiles. Cecilia & Lilina and Eirika & Ephraim's BHBs and Valter's GHB do not with Valter's being a zerg rush with fliers map making it even more difficult since neither Gordin or Klein have been made free units.

Anyway, @Arcanite, what units does your friend even have? If she has all the free units so far, 5* Clive, 4* Donnel, Olivia, and Ursula might be the cheapest way to beat this map. Otherwise, maybe BH Lyn -- assuming she chose her or has one -- and 5* Camus will work with Berkut even though he's a blue and not a red like Eliwood.

Edit: Never mind.

Edited September 12, 2017 by Kaden

[Arcanite]

6 minutes ago, Kaden said:

Anyway, @Arcanite, what units does your friend even have? If she has all the free units so far, 5* Clive, 4* Donnel, Olivia, and Ursula might be the cheapest way to beat this map. Otherwise, maybe BH Lyn -- assuming she chose her or has one -- and 5* Camus will work with Berkut even though he's a blue and not a red like Eliwood.

A little too late there buddy ;P

She rerolled not too long ago so she doesn't have Ursula or all those other people anyway ha ha

[LordFrigid]

3 hours ago, LordFrigid said:

Edit: Just peeked at Maria's stat line...why is she that fast? O.o ... not gonna lie, my first instinct after that would have been to try putting something weird like Maria, Jeorge, [someone], [someone else] together =P .

Okay @Arcanite, I know you have your strategy already, but I couldn't resist putting together a clear based on Maria tanking the mages; the idea was too intriguing.

Team and requirements (yes, there are requirements, unfortunately) --

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Nino:

• +Atk OR Atk-boosting inheritance
• +3 buff OR +2 buff and Atk +1 seal

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Ignore the +10, it's unneeded.

Maria:

• Reach 34+ Spd. Achievable with neutral Spd 5* or some combination of Spurs and/or Seals (my first attempt was with a heavily merged Sealife Tome Summer Corrin).

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Abel:

• Whatever spurs or buffs needed to get Maria and Nino to the buff/Spd requirements. I used Spur Spd 1 and the Fortify Res 1 seal, but with a 5* Maria any old Lv. 2 (or Lv. 1 Hone Atk) buff will do it.
• Brave Lance and Swordbreaker (natural)

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Merges not necessary. Quad-ing Eirika with +0 is perfectly fine for ORKOing her =P .

Ike:

• Vantage and Quickened Pulse.
• Not -Atk, -Def, or -HP. That's a lot of restrictions, unfortunately, but...MARIA.

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And the battle in pictures (& words):

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T1: Nino breaks the wall. Maria enters enemy range. Abel moves in behind her. Ike does nothing.

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T1 EP: Blue mage attacks Maria. Other enemies advance.

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T2: Ike moves diagonally up and left. Nino moves left one space. Maria moves down two spaces. Abel moves below her and Repositions her out of danger.

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T2 EP: Blue Mage rallies the Thief. The Thief attacks Ike, activating Vantage and charging Aether. The Sword Cav attacks and gets Vantage'd, and Ike heals enough to survive (neutral Atk heals 2 less and should survive with 2 HP). The Green Tome Cav attacks Ike and gets Vantage-OHKO'd (neutral Atk also achieves this). Ephraim and Eirika advance.

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T3: Abel ORKO's Eirika from the right.

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Nino ORKOs Ephraim from below.

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Ike finishes the Sword Cav from the right.

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Maria heals Nino for the heck of it.

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T3 EP: The Blue Mage rallies the Thief, who proceeds to suicide into Ike.

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T4 and possibly 5: Finish the blue mage however you please. I used a combination of Ike and Abel.

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Edited September 12, 2017 by LordFrigid
Messed up my turn count #s

[Arcanite]

3 minutes ago, LordFrigid said:

Okay @Arcanite, I know you have your strategy already, but I couldn't resist putting together a clear based on Maria tanking the mages; the idea was too intriguing.

Team and requirements (yes, there are requirements, unfortunately) --

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Nino:

• +Atk OR Atk-boosting inheritance
• +3 buff OR +2 buff and Atk +1 seal

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Ignore the +10, it's unneeded.

Maria:

• Reach 34+ Spd. Achievable with neutral Spd 5* or some combination of Spurs and/or Seals (my first attempt was with a heavily merged Sealife Tome Summer Corrin).

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Abel:

• Whatever spurs or buffs needed to get Maria and Nino to the buff/Spd requirements. I used Spur Spd 1 and the Fortify Res 1 seal, but with a 5* Maria any old buff Lv. 2 (or Lv. 1 Hone Atk) buff will do it.
• Brave Lance and Swordbreaker (natural)

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Merges not necessary. Quad-ing Eirika with +0 is perfectly fine for ORKOing her =P .

Ike:

• Vantage and Quickened Pulse.
• Not -Atk, -Def, or -HP. That's a lot of restrictions, unfortunately, but...MARIA.

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And the battle in pictures (& words):

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T1: Nino breaks the wall. Maria enters enemy range. Abel moves in behind her. Ike does nothing.

  Reveal hidden contents

T1 EP: Blue mage attacks Maria. Other enemies advance.

  Reveal hidden contents

T2: Ike moves diagonally up and left. Nino moves left one space. Maria moves down two spaces. Abel moves below her and Repositions her out of danger.

  Reveal hidden contents

T2 EP: Blue Mage rallies the Thief. The Thief attacks Ike, activating Vantage and charging Aether. The Sword Cav attacks and gets Vantage'd, and Ike heals enough to survive (neutral Atk heals 2 less and should survive with 2 HP). The Green Tome Cav attacks Ike and gets Vantage-OHKO'd (neutral Atk also achieves this). Ephraim and Eirika advance.

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T3: Abel ORKO's Eirika from the right.

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Nino ORKOs Ephraim from below.

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Ike finishes the Sword Cav from the right.

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Maria heals Nino for the heck of it.

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T4: The Blue Mage rallies the Thief, who proceeds to suicide into Ike.

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T5 and possibly 6: Finish the blue mage however you please. I used a combination of Ike and Abel.

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I don't think my friend has an Abel, but this is pretty imaculate lol

From now on I'm asking you to make all my clears

[LordFrigid]

Just now, Arcanite said:

I don't think my friend has an Abel, but this is pretty imaculate lol

From now on I'm asking you to make all my clears

Yeah, assuming Abel was a stretch, but it was easier than assuming merged Summer Corrin (even after the Hone Atk buff, she needs considerable Atk and Spd boosts to be able to ORKO Eirika, assuming neutral Atk and Spd, which requires inheritance and almost certainly merges).

Give me an interesting enough character pool to work with and I'm good to go.

[Roflolxp54]

Renais Twins BHB is being rerun!

The quests took me a few tries only because I was trying to clear all quests in a single run.

Used the following units on the Lunatic map:

5* Sharena: Reposition, Escutcheon, Swordbreaker 3 (ORKOs Eirika and the sword cavalier)
5* Anna: Reposition, Moonbow, Darting Blow 3 (finishes off Ephraim; tanks and ORKOs blue mage)
+Spd/-Res Deirdre: Draw Back, Glacies, Fury 3, HP +3 (baits and ORKOs green mage cavalier)
+HP/-Spd PA Shigure: Hone Atk 3, Spur Atk 1 (Sing+buffs support; lands the first blow on Ephraim, which puts Ephraim in KO range for Anna)

Edited January 6, 2018 by Roflolxp54

[DarkLordIvy]

Eggh I’ve got a headache I’ll do the quests in the morning but I did do this real quick. 

I really do remember Infernal being maddening during the first run. 

[Alexmender]

Hmm...Turns out a 3* Anna with only Darting Blow 1 can double Ephraim on Lunatic to kill him. Thought this would be harder but I overestimated this BHB.

I did everything with my Eirika, Tailtiu, PA!Olivia and Sharena/Anna. Took 2 runs to get everything.

[SatsumaFSoysoy]

So how about that Askr challenge again? Anna and Sharena reqs on Infernal, no Brave Bow, no Blade tome, no Reinhardt or Brave Lyn.

Edited January 6, 2018 by SatsumaFSoysoy

[Johann]

1 hour ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said:

So how about that Askr challenge again? Anna and Sharena reqs on Infernal, no Brave Bow, no Blade tome, no Reinhardt or Brave Lyn.

I'm putting it off until after Tempest, but I'm down. Gonna go a step further and do Infantry only as well.

[Wanda]

Infernal, 1 minute, infantry-only.

Kagero's a good shout if you don't have brave bow/blade tome users.

[Ice Dragon]

58 minutes ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said:

So how about that Askr challenge again? Anna and Sharena reqs on Infernal, no Brave Bow, no Blade tome, no Reinhardt or Brave Lyn.

Technically, we should up the challenge now to infantry only because of the infantry only quest because the original challenge was "all quests cleared on a single Infernal run" plus the unit and weapon restrictions.

So, that wasn't too bad, though I did bring Fae out to play because Myrrh isn't in this game yet.

+10 Fae [+Atk, -Def] (Lightning Breath+ [Def], Reposition, Aether, Triangle Adept 3, Quick Riposte 3, Fortify Dragons, Distant Def 3)
+0 Sharena [=] (Fensalir, Rally Atk, Speed +3, Hone Def 3, Close Def 3)
+6 Lachesis [+Spd, -Def] (Absorb+, Physic+, Solid-Earth Balm, Spur Res 3, Atk Ploy 3)
+0 Anna [=] (Noatun, Astra, Vantage, Spur Res 3)

The usual imgur gallery with annotations: https://imgur.com/a/2OIvP.

[SatsumaFSoysoy]

1 minute ago, Ice Dragon said:

Technically, we should up the challenge now to infantry only because of the infantry only quest because the original challenge was "all quests cleared on a single Infernal run" plus the unit and weapon restrictions.

Oh, really? I somehow missed that... I just did the quests with infantry anyway lol. It's kinda sad that Infantry are so vanilla and get no help now... Only Infantry Pulse ever came out. Maybe we'll get a Infantry Spectrum or something someday.

Damn dragons are ridiculous now. Do you still run your dragon core in Arena?

[Ice Dragon]

4 minutes ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said:

Damn dragons are ridiculous now. Do you still run your dragon core in Arena?

Yep. There aren't really many teams that give me trouble these days. Bold Fighter Halloween Jakob and high-Res-melee teams boosted by Gunnthra are the only things that I actually have difficulty with.

[LordFrigid]

I did it the lazy way and adapted the strategy I posted earlier on this page.

• 5* Sharena - Fensalir, Reposition, Moonbow, Fury 3, Swordbreaker 1, Hone Atk 3, Spur Spd 1 seal
• 5* Anna - Nóatún, Reposition, Glacies, Fury 3, Wings of Mercy 3, Spur Spd 3
• 5* Ike: Young Mercenary (+Atk/-Res)  - Ragnell, Reposition, Aether, Heavy Blade 3, Vantage 3, Hone Spd 3, Quickened Pulse seal
• 4* Maria (+Def/-Atk) - Panic, Rehabilitate, Imbue, Live to Serve 1, Fortify Res 2, Squad Ace D 3 seal.

3 cheers for Maria!

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Edited January 6, 2018 by LordFrigid

[Ice Dragon]

18 minutes ago, LordFrigid said:

(I’m on mobile, please forgive the lack of accents)

Accents don't exist in English.

[LordFrigid]

6 minutes ago, Ice Dragon said:

Accents don't exist in English.

For future reference, how would I refer to them? 

I’ve copy/pasted Nóatún in through the power of Google.

[Ice Dragon]

7 minutes ago, LordFrigid said:

For future reference, how would I refer to them? 

I’ve copy/pasted Nóatún in through the power of Google.

The accents themselves, or the words with accents in them? I'm mostly joking because the only words in English that natively have accents in them are either borrowed from another language that has accents (i.e. are not English) or have accents to indicate a specific intended pronunciation different from its normal pronunciation (e.g. past tense with "-èd" instead of "-ed" to indicate that the "e" is pronounced, seen most often in Shakespeare to preserve meter).

[LordFrigid]

12 minutes ago, Ice Dragon said:

The accents themselves, or the words with accents in them? I'm mostly joking because the only words in English that natively have accents in them are either borrowed from another language that has accents (i.e. are not English) or have accents to indicate a specific intended pronunciation different from its normal pronunciation (e.g. past tense with "-èd" instead of "-ed" to indicate that the "e" is pronounced, seen most often in Shakespeare to preserve meter).

The former...I just completely failed to identify that as a joke, somehow.

[Ice Dragon]

5 minutes ago, LordFrigid said:

The former...I just completely failed to identify that as a joke, somehow.

I use Windows's Character Map program, which basically gives you every single displayable character in any given font. The program from a user interface perspective is complete garbage (which is to be expected because the UI hasn't changed at all since Windows 95), but it gets the job done.

[Humanoid]

I kept a printout of the extended ASCII table on the wall next to my desk for so long because of the crappiness of Character Map, ugh. These days in the age of multiple monitors and always-on Internet I just open an extra browser window instead though.

Edited January 6, 2018 by Humanoid

[Nébulya]

That was the easiest lunatic I've did. I remember I struggled a lot before.. But here.. I just cleared it in 3 turns with Cordelia, brave Ike, ayra and Fjorm. 

Edited January 6, 2018 by Metakirby