Rezzy Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Arcanite said: You can not want it to exist, but guess what? It does! Most armored units are kinda slow, and their speed would only be hardly sub par after a +7 buff in speed.... but I'd imagine ALL the units on this banner would have at least decent speed Even so, having that broken power on a mage is very satisfying. The brazen skills work really good player controlled, while on an enemy they might get one shot anyway Embrace the future! We've actually got quite a few speedy armor units, Black Knight, Amelia, Henry, Draug. more I might not remember. Since we've only got like 10 Armors, almost have aren't slow-pokes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, Rezzy said: Instead of just adding OP new skills all the time, can we just get 4* units that have Quick Riposte and Life and Death? They could slow the power creep by just adding the older useful skills to the 4* pool, rather than feeling they need to come up with better and better skills with every Banner. At the very least, we have characters available at 3-star rarity that provide those skills, even if they need to be promoted to 5-star to do so. Meanwhile, we still have relatively old skills that are locked behind 5-star-exclusive pulls and limited characters, like Wrathful Staff, Dazzling Staff, Swift Sparrow, Distant Def, Close Def, Wrath, Rally Atk/Spd, Goad Armor, and Hone Fliers. Honestly, I'd like for them to slow down just a bit with new skills and flesh out the summoning pool with more sources for harder-to-get skills first. 5 minutes ago, Arcanite said: You can not want it to exist, but guess what? It does! Most armored units are kinda slow, and their speed would only be hardly sub par after a +7 buff in speed.... but I'd imagine ALL the units on this banner would have at least decent speed Even so, having that broken power on a mage is very satisfying. The brazen skills work really good player controlled, while on an enemy they might get one shot anyway Embrace the future! I will find it amusing if they are locked to melee armor and melee infantry. The biggest problem with the Brazen skills is that unless you are using Ardent Sacrifice, you're going to be handicapped on your first round of combat, which is typically the most important one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Fuck your powercreep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLordIvy Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 47 minutes ago, Othin said: That doesn't seem like it would fit with any patterns of how they've been distributing refinement bonus effects so far. It doesn't fit any patterns, but the refinement is also totally new so who knows what crazy stuff IS will throw at us with it. It wouldn't surprise me ether way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezzy Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 9 minutes ago, Ice Dragon said: At the very least, we have characters available at 3-star rarity that provide those skills, even if they need to be promoted to 5-star to do so. Meanwhile, we still have relatively old skills that are locked behind 5-star-exclusive pulls and limited characters, like Wrathful Staff, Dazzling Staff, Swift Sparrow, Distant Def, Close Def, Wrath, Rally Atk/Spd, Goad Armor, and Hone Fliers. Honestly, I'd like for them to slow down just a bit with new skills and flesh out the summoning pool with more sources for harder-to-get skills first. I would be okay with that. I'm okay with skills like Distant Counter staying 5* exclusive, but Hone Flyers and other skills could really go with a units that isn't 5* locked and/or limited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saisymbolic Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 10 minutes ago, Rezzy said: I would be okay with that. I'm okay with skills like Distant Counter staying 5* exclusive, but Hone Flyers and other skills could really go with a units that isn't 5* locked and/or limited. Seriously. I find it funny that the cavalry buffs are so easy to get (which contribute to making horse teams broken) but having full flier buffs is like trying to find a needle in a haystack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChickenBits Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, saisymbolic said: Seriously. I find it funny that the cavalry buffs are so easy to get (which contribute to making horse teams broken) but having full flier buffs is like trying to find a needle in a haystack. It's getting annoying at this point. Flier emblem isn't broken and why bother using them when Horse emblem is so easy to create especially for f2p. Flying mages have all been seasonal, hone fliers is locked to 5 stars and a lot of top tier flyers either require a lot of investment(Cherche) or are locked at 5 stars(Minerva, Elencia, Hinoka, Tana). At least they have been nerfing horse emblem somewhat and trying to encourage players to use armored units. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeo Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Ice Dragon said: Ew. +1 On another note. All of the armors look good and the armor skills will eventually seep into the pool of regular units. But that Brazen ATK/SPD... Lyn wants that... I mean Lyn really wants that. I don't think there's a single unit that wants that A skill more than she does. Sol Katti Desp/Brash + Brazen ATK/SPD + Wrath. Everything about her becomes ridiculous at that 75% threshold. And with her bulk intact she won't die in the first encounter. I want 2 of those Robins so bad... one to keep and one to feed to Lyn. If I only get one I'm going to pray it's a bad nature, cause if it is, I'm rocketshipping him to 3000 HM and I'm feeding him to Lyn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezzy Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Ice Dragon said: Ew. 1 minute ago, Zeo said: +1 Am I missing some Urban Dictionary definition the kids are using nowadays? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandosco Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Man... gotta hand it to IS. There have been virtually zero banners that I haven't been excited about and this one is no exception. The characters look great, their weapons and skills are cool... I'm glad I'm coming into this banner with over 60 orbs, hoping to get at least one of the units. Though this'll fly in the face of my Legendary banner savings. Hopefully we'll get one copy of the next Legendary hero for free like with Fjorm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clogon Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 3 hours ago, Ice Dragon said: Pick your explanation: It's cold and she's not wearing much and she probably can't move very fast because it's cold. The ice around her numbed frostbiten skin can also contribute to her higher than normal def. XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenomata Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 (edited) Can someone explain to me how Tharja can wear even LESS clothing than she usually does??? Like, this isn't even summer banner. Also once again we get even more swords added to the summoning pool and no seasonal swords. Joy... Edited December 16, 2017 by Xenomata Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingle Jangle Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, Xenomata said: Can someone explain to me how Tharja can wear even LESS clothing than she usually does??? Like, this isn't even summer banner. Also once again we get even more swords added to the summoning pool and no seasonal swords. Joy... Well her fans like me is all the armor she needs, The biggest different is that Tharja doesn't have the see through clothing otherwise it would the same, Plegia has a hot Winter. ( My guess is that this version of Tharja was summoned in the middle of a changing session.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C. Turtle Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 46 minutes ago, Xenomata said: Can someone explain to me how Tharja can wear even LESS clothing than she usually does??? Like, this isn't even summer banner. Also once again we get even more swords added to the summoning pool and no seasonal swords. Joy... From my perspective, a Christmas banner is a summer banner. Clearly she's celebrating Christmas the southern hemisphere way. ; ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 14 hours ago, Rezzy said: We've actually got quite a few speedy armor units, Black Knight, Amelia, Henry, Draug. more I might not remember. Since we've only got like 10 Armors, almost have aren't slow-pokes. Draug is nigh irrelevant Their speed tier is pretty good. I guess I never realized ? how much we have now BK is still not that hard to deal with though heh Spoiler What is Triangle Adept https://imgur.com/gallery/jV77I Amelia is fast, but who doesn't have an OP sword by now I hate Henry 14 hours ago, Ice Dragon said: The biggest problem with the Brazen skills is that unless you are using Ardent Sacrifice, you're going to be handicapped on your first round of combat, which is typically the most important one. Player controlled, that won't be much of an issue. People with strong bases would be the only ones using it anyway. If it's locked to armors, the brazen atk/def wary fighter combo will be lethal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezzy Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, Arcanite said: I hate Henry What "caw"se did Henry give you to hate him? You supported him in the mage gauntlet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 12 minutes ago, Rezzy said: What "caw"se did Henry give you to hate him? You supported him in the mage gauntlet. He's just annoying to deal with I also supported him for the becaws of the amazing puns My Arena croe is Nino Lancina and Olivia, as you may know. Nino is really strong but she can't always punch through Henrys bulk. And usually when I see him he's always run with Fort Armors on someone else. Not to mention his decent speed tier, AND the fact that he could have green tome breaker I fought a vantage one once... I did not realize he had it.... and Olivia was not in a position to hit him so I was screwed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmokestack Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 16 hours ago, Rezzy said: Forgive me if this has been answer, but how the heck is Tharja an Armored unit? Tharja can class change into a Knight in Awakening. Now try explaining all the other offclasses on seasonal units... 38 minutes ago, Arcanite said: Nino is really strong but she can't always punch through Henrys bulk. And usually when I see him he's always run with Fort Armors on someone else. Not to mention his decent speed tier, AND the fact that he could have green tome breaker I fought a vantage one once... I did not realize he had it.... and Olivia was not in a position to hit him so I was screwed I just throw Alfonse at Henry. Problem solved. As good as Armor March is, unless we get permanent ranged armors added to the roster it just doesn’t seem worthwhile to run over DC Ward. Their movement even after applying March is still worse than fliers, which in turn are worse than cavalry. I’m excited for CC Vengeance though. Now if Armor March was a seal things would be a lot more interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 13 hours ago, Rezzy said: Am I missing some Urban Dictionary definition the kids are using nowadays? I just happen to share Anakin's opinion on sand. "I don't like sand." 1 hour ago, Arcanite said: If it's locked to armors, the brazen atk/def wary fighter combo will be lethal Brazen means you're not running Distant Counter, meaning you can't do shit to anything ranged and they get Repositioned back so you can't reach them anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thany Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Think theres some dark magic somewhere that makes a persons body feel no effect to the coldness of the weather? perhaps Tharja just doesnt feel the cold cause she did a hex or a curse on herself to have her body feel numb or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omegaxis1 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, Thany said: Think theres some dark magic somewhere that makes a persons body feel no effect to the coldness of the weather? perhaps Tharja just doesnt feel the cold cause she did a hex or a curse on herself to have her body feel numb or whatever. Considering that there's a hex that makes her no longer feel any form of shame given by her conversation with Cordelia in the Summer DLC, it's possible. But something big must have been used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 40 minutes ago, Ice Dragon said: Brazen means you're not running Distant Counter, meaning you can't do shit to anything ranged and they get Repositioned back so you can't reach them anymore. Well we now have 3 units with armor March, so there will be more situations than not where enemies are out of range, assuming a march team Assuming not march... that's gonna be a problem. Ward emblem means they can out sustain at least, taking minimal damage to keep you alive and then slapping the enemy with Ignis triggers HEH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 18 minutes ago, Arcanite said: Well we now have 3 units with armor March, so there will be more situations than not where enemies are out of range, assuming a march team Melee units cannot reach a Repositioned ranged unit without killing the unit that Repositioned them first. 16 minutes ago, Arcanite said: Assuming not march... that's gonna be a problem. Ward emblem means they can out sustain at least, taking minimal damage to keep you alive and then slapping the enemy with Ignis triggers HEH Zephiel, Draug, and Arden can't tank green magic worth shit even with full stacks of Ward Armor. The Black Knight can only do so by virtue of killing on the counterattack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSbardock84 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 About time Chrom has some good art. But all I want for Christmas is Tharja. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thany Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Poor Fredrick, could only afford enough to give santa outfits to them and Robin, at least Chrom and Lissa are dressed warmly XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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