VincentASM Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 I wanted to do this when the first trailer came out, but I wasn't sure how important the map locations are. Plus a lot of them were hard to see. But now there are a lot more angles and zoom ins, so here goes... Please note that I tried my best, but some names might be slightly or, in some cases, very off. You can usually tell a name is correct when you Google it and you get a mythological or geographical reference. Some locations don't have any obvious references though. This could either be because they're wrong or adapted. For example, Varley (no results) was originally Váli in the first version of the map (from E3). Likewise, Morfis was previously Morpheus. Bergliez was Vergilius, etc. The main ones I'm unsure of are Boramas (used to be something completely different) and Kupala. One of the reasons I looked into the world map again is because of a certain location near the far north: Gautier. You may know that there's a character called Sylvain Jose Gautier and a monster wielding a Crest Stone of Gautier. It's very possible we'll encounter other characters and monsters related to other locations on the map. Also, two small locations stand out to me--one near the far east and another near the far west. They are Fodlan's Throat and Fodlan's Fangs. With that info in mind, stand back and look at the world map again... Unless my eyes deceive me, I think we're looking at the face of a dragon. What if the game is pulling a Dragon Marked For Death? In other words, the continent is a deceased dragon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Grima Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 (edited) Thanks! I was trying to do this, but having a lot of trouble with a few names. Working on a few theories. Give me time. Edited February 16, 2019 by Lord_Grima Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename Shrimp Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 I find it pretty interesting that Adrestia doesn't have it's own Church (see western & eastern church in other countries) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckPhoenix Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Western church looks like it is in the area that is neither part of Adrestia nor Faerghus. If you look in the new trailer, when they colored the territories, then you can see it around that area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingle Jangle Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 I wonder that makes the Sacred Gwenhwyvar sacred? I guess we will find out when the game comes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageOfAnys Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Ooo, nice. How detailed this map is really gives the feeling that Fodlan is a real, developed place. Infinitely better than what we got with Fates and its no-name continent. Hopefully we can finally get an official name for Fateslandia when the artbook drops? I'm not counting on it unfortunately. So, some quick analysis here. We currently know 4 full names of the characters in this game: Edelgard von Hresvelgr, Dimitri Alexander Blaiddyd, Claude von Riegan, and Sylvain Jose Gautier. Ignoring spelling differences, all 4 have their surnames as locations on the map, meaning they likely indicate the different noble territories within Fodlan. For now, I'll operate under the assumption that every single noble house shares their surname with their noble territory. So, ignoring map names that obviously describe geographic locations (Fodlan's Fangs, Brionac Plateau, etc.) or institutions (Western Church, Eastern Church), we can probably figure out the names of all the noble houses in Fodlan: Spoiler Gautier Itha Fraldarius Fhirdiad Blaiddyd Conand Galatea Charon Gideon Mateus Kleiman Teutates Rome Arianrhod Gaspard Magdred Arundel Nuvelle Oche Hevring Remire Oghma Varley Merceus Hresvelg Enbarr Boramas Rusalka Aegir Bergliez Airmid Hyrm Myrddin Ordelia Goneril Riegan Derdriu Edmund Kupala Ailell Daphnel Gloucester Assuming that all these names I picked out actually are noble territories and not single-word geographic locations or other such places, that's 42 noble houses total. We also know from the mural with the goddess we saw in the first trailer, there are only 21 crests. With all this information, we can make two assumptions: Not every house will have a crest. This could be for multiple reasons, such as some noble houses emerging recently or perhaps not ever being associated with a crest to begin with. This could be an interesting plot detail, with crest-bearing houses potentially having greater control or power? This could serve as a source of internal conflict within each country too. Assuming every noble house has at least one child that attends the Officer Academy, there will be at least of 42 students in the monastery. Obviously, there could be more through siblings and such, and there's always the possibility that some noble houses won't have any children of age to attend the academy, but if there really is 42 students in the academy, it's entirely possible to have a decent-sized FE roster that consists of only students and maybe some teachers if we really are able to recruit the students from the other houses at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etrurian emperor Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Those are some interesting naming locations. Nice work. I wonder if the high amount of area names means something. Would the amount of effort they put into the map translate to excellent world building and a vast amount of locations to visit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Grima Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, SageOfAnys said: We also know from the mural with the goddess we saw in the first trailer, there are only 21 crests. With all this information, we can make two assumptions: I've also been looking into that. I broke it down by number of Houses/Locations/Cities in each region, and found a really cool pattern. Will continue to look into. We know the Crests of the 3 main protagonists because they are shown on the map. Gautier (part of the Holy Kingdom of Faerghus) also has a crest, but which one is unknown. But looking at the Seiros Mural and the locations of the Main 3 Crests, the breakdown worked out perfectly. This could all be a coincidence and pure speculation, but it works out so well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckPhoenix Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 We can already see the 4 crests from Leicester Alliance and although I like your theory, they do not match with it. The number of crests might be a possibility though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ertrick36 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Brigid just has an entire ocean named after her in an entirely different continent. Or maybe it's a collective of islands. Either way, I like to imagine that Brigid just came around to this continent and left a big enough impression that they named an entire area after her. Yes, I know IS likes to interchange already-used names a lot, I'm making a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted February 17, 2019 Author Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Lord_Grima said: I've also been looking into that. I broke it down by number of Houses/Locations/Cities in each region, and found a really cool pattern. Will continue to look into. We know the Crests of the 3 main protagonists because they are shown on the map. Gautier (part of the Holy Kingdom of Faerghus) also has a crest, but which one is unknown. But looking at the Seiros Mural and the locations of the Main 3 Crests, the breakdown worked out perfectly. This could all be a coincidence and pure speculation, but it works out so well. You may be on to something. I think this may be the crest for Gautier, from what might be the Crest Stone of Gautier: It's also looking like Sylvain is from Faerghus, so that matches up with the order. Edited February 17, 2019 by VincentASM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentinel07 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, DuckPhoenix said: We can already see the 4 crests from Leicester Alliance and although I like your theory, they do not match with it. The number of crests might be a possibility though. What 4 crests? Pretty sure the only one we know for sure is from Leicester is the moon symbol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageOfAnys Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, Lord_Grima said: I've also been looking into that. I broke it down by number of Houses/Locations/Cities in each region, and found a really cool pattern. Will continue to look into. We know the Crests of the 3 main protagonists because they are shown on the map. Gautier (part of the Holy Kingdom of Faerghus) also has a crest, but which one is unknown. But looking at the Seiros Mural and the locations of the Main 3 Crests, the breakdown worked out perfectly. This could all be a coincidence and pure speculation, but it works out so well. 2 minutes ago, VincentASM said: You may be on to something. I think this may be the crest for Gautier, from what might be the Crest Stone of Gautier: It's also looking like Sylvain is from Faerghus, so that matches up with the order. Nice! It'll be interesting if the pattern does end up with crests being grouped by country. Also for future reference, I've grouped each house by country in the two spoilers below for easy allegiance identification: Visual representation Spoiler Text representation: Spoiler Gautier Itha Fraldarius Fhirdiad Blaiddyd Conand Galatea Charon Gideon Mateus Kleiman Teutates Rome Arianrhod Gaspard Magdred Arundel Nuvelle Oche Hevring Remire Oghma Varley Merceus Hresvelg Enbarr Boramas Rusalka Aegir Bergliez Airmid Hyrm Myrddin Ordelia Goneril Riegan Derdriu Edmund Kupala Ailell Daphnel Gloucester Bolded names are ones that we know have crests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strullemia Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 I'm surprised to see that there are that many named locations. Shows that they at least that they pay more attention to the world they're creating, at least compared to Fates. Curious to see what Almyra is about. It's rather large and it's separated from all the other three territories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckPhoenix Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, Sentinel07 said: What 4 crests? Pretty sure the only one we know for sure is from Leicester is the moon symbol. If you look closely at this leicester alliance crest/emblem/whatever ot is called in english... Top left is the moon we all know. Too right is the symbol that is also in the center of the healing spell from Linhardt. It is also next to Dimitris crest. Bottom left has the weird circle that is under the woman who is on her knees and dressed in white. Bottom right is a little hard to make out, but the center of the alliance had these 4 crests in mini again and I think this one is the crest that is to the right of the 'weird circle'. Sorry for not being able to provide more pictures. I am on my phone and it is the middle of the night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageOfAnys Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, DuckPhoenix said: If you look closely at this leicester alliance crest/emblem/whatever ot is called in english... Top left is the moon we all know. Too right is the symbol that is also in the center of the healing spell from Linhardt. It is also next to Dimitris crest. Bottom left has the weird circle that is under the woman who is on her knees and dressed in white. Bottom right is a little hard to make out, but the center of the alliance had these 4 crests in mini again and I think this one is the crest that is to the right of the 'weird circle'. Sorry for not being able to provide more pictures. I am on my phone and it is the middle of the night. Oh, I see what you're talking about. You mean these, right? It's interesting how the emblem of Leicester emphasizes these crests in particular, it really suggests that the country only has 4 crests, as it would be strange for it to have more but also have them not represented. EDIT: Also, the rightmost circled crest has been seen before during the two times magic was cast in the trailer - first the healing magic by Linhardt and then the offensive fire spell cast by the Western Church soldier. Unless it was just a placeholder crest for trailer purposes (which part of me really doubts) I guess crests that appear during magic spells cannot be tied to the house of the caster. Edited February 17, 2019 by SageOfAnys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckPhoenix Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) Thank you for marking them on the picture. :) What I think is weird about them is, that if Dimitri's crest and Claude's crest were to change places in the order, the alliance crests would be right next to each other. Oh...you are right. This crest was also in the center of the magic spell. I totally forgot about that. Maybe the family under this crest is well known for their magical aptitude? If I had to make a guess on who that could be...right now I would chose the boy/girl with the glasses from Golden Deer. Edited February 17, 2019 by DuckPhoenix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Grima Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, DuckPhoenix said: We can already see the 4 crests from Leicester Alliance and although I like your theory, they do not match with it. The number of crests might be a possibility though. 37 minutes ago, DuckPhoenix said: If you look closely at this leicester alliance crest/emblem/whatever ot is called in english.. Interesting. I didn't notice those before. Those symbols also appear in the center of the Crest/Emblem as well. That does make things more complicated. Both Adrestian and Faerghus only have the main crest symbol (of their leader's houses) on their banners. So, really interesting how Leicester focuses on four. Maybe because they are an alliance instead of the empire and kingdom? Then there is the fact that both Linhardt and a Western Church Soldier use the same symbol in their magic. Linhardt is from the Black Eagles (Adrestian Empire) and the Western Church is located on the border of the Adrestian Empire and Faerghus. Edited February 17, 2019 by Lord_Grima Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest This Guy Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 I'm more interested in those other countries outside the 3. Sreng looks to be Denmark/Scandinavia meaning Vikings. Albinea is clearly Albion.....which depending on if they are focusing on historical or lore, could mean England perhaps Anglo-Saxon England back when they had Huskarls still, before the Normans came and conquered it, or it could mean a Fairy Kingdom. Brigid I have no idea, the closest that comes to mind is Brittany, the only Celtic Nation outside the British Isles (Wales, Ireland, Scotland, Cornwall, Isle of Mann. England was founded by Saxons, a Germanic Tribe.) that was left prior to it's annexation by France, but even that is weird as it was a nation that was completely connected by land. Almyra is either Middle Eastern, Armenian, Romanian, or Slavic based I'd guess. Morfis I'm utterly baffled as to what it can be, the closest thing coming to mind being Australia, which would be weird. Then there's that little bit of land west of Srang and North of Faerghus. And real quick Let's talk about the 4 factions that are Relevant. Based on the name and the fact we saw Kilt wearing soldiers, Faerghus is either Scottish or The Highlands. The Empire is probably the Holy Roman Empire And thus mostly Germanic. Despite the English name, Leicester is probably closer to the merchant Republics of Venice, Amalfi, Genoa, Pisa, Gotland, Ancona, and the Hansa. The Church.......is obviously the Papacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyJedi Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, DuckPhoenix said: Western church looks like it is in the area that is neither part of Adrestia nor Faerghus. If you look in the new trailer, when they colored the territories, then you can see it around that area. I was looking for someone else who pointed that out, couldn't find anyone, so I took a blurry picture with my phone, doodled on it, got ready to post... and then found this thread. I'm still posting my blurry picture just because I can. Spoiler Betting it's going to be plot relevant in someway, and having it be church territory was my first guess. The question now is, is it the location of an actual church? Or maybe a fort that the church used to instill peace in that area some years ago. Edited February 17, 2019 by GreyJedi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RexBolt Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 hour ago, DuckPhoenix said: Thank you for marking them on the picture. :) What I think is weird about them is, that if Dimitri's crest and Claude's crest were to change places in the order, the alliance crests would be right next to each other. Everything that's being discovered here is so fascinating. By the way, did you check this against the image of the soundtrack CD? This image seems to be still from the first trailer, while the CD brings new information revealing the Crests that were hidden before. But i didn't get the chance to see if the order is the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enduin Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, RexBolt said: Everything that's being discovered here is so fascinating. By the way, did you check this against the image of the soundtrack CD? This image seems to be still from the first trailer, while the CD brings new information revealing the Crests that were hidden before. But i didn't get the chance to see if the order is the same. The order is indeed different. Edited February 17, 2019 by Enduin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RexBolt Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 31 minutes ago, Enduin said: The order is indeed different. Great, it's still not exactly how @Lord_Grima presented it and the Riegan Crest isn't visible, but going by it's previous locations the other Crests is the Leicester Alliance flag now are all adjacent to one another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Grima Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 41 minutes ago, Enduin said: The order is indeed different. On the CD the order is different, but the order of the crests on the artbook is the same. Most likely so they didn't have to redo the artwork. First one here is the order on the artwork/mural, the second is what i saw on the CD. The three symbols on the side were obstructed in the image, so no idea exactly where they go. It definitely changed the order, but @RexBolt the Leicester symbols are still mixed around the Dimitri/ Blaiddyd Symbol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RexBolt Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Lord_Grima said: On the CD the order is different, but the order of the crests on the artbook is the same. Most likely so they didn't have to redo the artwork. First one here is the order on the artwork/mural, the second is what i saw on the CD. The three symbols on the side were obstructed in the image, so no idea exactly where they go. It definitely changed the order, but @RexBolt the Leicester symbols are still mixed around the Dimitri/ Blaiddyd Symbol. I see (also i don't, your image doesn't show up). Maybe this will mean that Leicester, with it's a little bit more modern way to rule, is a relative recent creation and they were once territories from the other kingdoms? But that's a stretch if i ever wrote one. If anything the order represents nothing because in-universe the artwork predates all countries besides maybe the Adrestian Empire (who may be over 1000 y.o. if we consider a previous dynasty). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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