Armagon Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Wait a minute, i just realized I can't believe Inigo crossed over into another game. I still unironically kinda want for Owain, Severa, and Inigo to just be dimension hoppers and appear in different games under different names. Maybe i'm alone but i'd enjoy that. 1 minute ago, Shrimperor said: Thankfully they weren'T any important in 3H The best thing i can say about the evil 3H cult is that there is genuinely interesting lore to be had, the game just chose not to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Just now, lightcosmo said: But isnt fates just his Smash 4 Design? Is it? I don't know, but it's a heck of a lot better than what Awakening did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename Shrimp Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Armagon said: I still unironically kinda want for Owain, Severa, and Inigo to just be dimension hoppers and appear in different games under different names. Maybe i'm alone but i'd enjoy that i am with you lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottservia Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, twilitfalchion said: Or, y'know...they could've just used his excellent Shadow Dragon design instead of redoing it completely. Even Fates did Marth justice, and that's saying something considering the rest of Fates' character designs. Can we stop with the fates hate pls? What’s so bad about Fates’s character design anyway? If it’s not to your particular taste that’s fine but overall Kozaki did good with that game if you ask me. And if the reason is “too much fanservice” that’s not a good reason to say why a character design is “bad” that’s just means it’s not to your particular taste which is fine but that’s not criticism. That is a bad faith argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) I don’t know why I’m pretending like this is a standard Awakening play through, it’s obviously a Chrom, Robin, Lucina, and Sumia solo run. Like I literally just had Chrom with Sumia backpack and Lucina with Robin backpack clear out 90% of this map. 6 minutes ago, Armagon said: I still unironically kinda want for Owain, Severa, and Inigo to just be dimension hoppers and appear in different games under different names. Maybe i'm alone but i'd enjoy that. Owain, Severa, and Inigo for Smash? Edited October 28, 2020 by Sooks1016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armagon Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, twilitfalchion said: Is it? I don't know, but it's a heck of a lot better than what Awakening did. Nah, it's his New Mystery design. Smash 4 uses that design just as Smash 4 uses RD Ike, which is the one used in Fates. The only FE character to get an actual new design in Smash is Roy, which is a mix of his original design and his Awakening redesign. 4 minutes ago, Shrimperor said: i am with you lol Poggers. 1 minute ago, Ottservia said: Can we stop with the fates hate pls? Bro if people can be fine with me saying Kaga has only made one game in his career (did he do anything pre-FE?) then you can be fine with people not liking Fates. 2 minutes ago, Sooks1016 said: Owain, Severa, and Inigo for Smash? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottservia Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, Armagon said: I still unironically kinda want for Owain, Severa, and Inigo to just be dimension hoppers and appear in different games under different names. Maybe i'm alone but i'd enjoy that. Hey if it means I get more Severa I’d be down with it. My girl keeps getting shafted by IS anyway. When will she get into feh? It’s been 3 years now! 2 minutes ago, Sooks1016 said: Owain, Severa, and Inigo for Smash? I would honestly kill a man for this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Sooks1016 said: I don’t know why I’m pretending like this is a standard Awakening play through, it’s obviously a Chrom, Robin, Lucina, and Sumia solo run. Like I literally just had Chrom with Sumia backpack and Lucina with Robin backpack clear out 90% of this map. Btw, if you haven't, I highly recommend reclassing both Chrom and Lucina to cavs. Reclassing and then promoting from cavs to paladins makes them nearly-unstoppable killing machines with great movement, in my experience at least. It's ultimately up to you of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armagon Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Ottservia said: Hey if it means I get more Severa I’d be down with it. My girl keeps getting shafted by IS anyway. When will she get into feh? It’s been 3 years now! Oh my God, has Severa (as in Severa) not in the game yet? I know she's there as Selina but damn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottservia Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Just now, Armagon said: Bro if people can be fine with me saying Kaga has only made one game in his career (did he do anything pre-FE?) then you can be fine with people not liking Fates. I’m fine with people not liking fates. I just don’t like people criticizing it for being bad because of biased claims and misinformation. If you say you don’t like it fine but if you’re gonna make a criticism(like saying the character design is bad) then I at least expect you to be able to back up your claim with a reasonable argument without cherry picking and relying on personal bias. 2 minutes ago, Armagon said: Oh my God, has Severa (as in Severa) not in the game yet? I know she's there as Selina but damn. Unfortunately this is the case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, twilitfalchion said: Btw, if you haven't, I highly recommend reclassing both Chrom and Lucina to cavs. Reclassing and then promoting from cavs to paladins makes them nearly-unstoppable killing machines with great movement, in my experience at least. It's ultimately up to you of course. They’re already unstoppable killing machines, but thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armagon Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Ottservia said: I’m fine with people not liking fates. I just don’t like people criticizing it for being bad because of biased claims and misinformation. If you say you don’t like it fine but if you’re gonna make a criticism(like saying the character design is bad) then I at least expect you to be able to back up your claim with a reasonable argument without cherry picking and relying on personal bias While I agree, I do think how much you can back something up depends on what it is you're criticizing. If you say Fates' character design is bad, there idk how you can elaborate much beyond "it's not really my tastes". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename Shrimp Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Alm & Celica: Meet once and fight Saber & Celica: frontlining together the whole game even creepy ship is better than canon one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename Shrimp Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) *rolling intensifies* Edited October 28, 2020 by Shrimperor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benice Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) Berwick saga has my favorite character design out of all the FEs I've played. It's fairly simple, but very pretty IMO. Pretty one-off villains in FE when, IS?! Then after that, I like SoV's, then FE12, followed by FE10, FE8, FE6, FE5, FE16, FE7, my least favoritebeing FE9 by quite a long shot. Edited October 28, 2020 by Benice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Shrimperor said: *rolling intensifies* Her face looks like 15 years older. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Just now, Benice said: Berwick saga has my favorite character design out of all the FEs I've played. It's fairly simple, but very pretty IMO. Pretty one-off villains in FE when, IS?! Then after that, I like SoV's, then FE12, followed by FE10, FE8, FE6, FE5, FE16, FE7, my least favoritebeing FE9 by quite a long shot. Haven’t you made it to the time skip in Three Houses already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottservia Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, Armagon said: While I agree, I do think how much you can back something up depends on what it is you're criticizing. If you say Fates' character design is bad, there idk how you can elaborate much beyond "it's not really my tastes". Character design is a bit more on the subjective side I will admit but again to use Tharja as an example. Tharja’s character portrait is really expressive as I outlined earlier. Does that mean you have to like the design? No, you don’t. I’m mostly neutral on it myself but I wouldn’t call it a bad design for the reasons I outlined earlier. The design does a really good job of visually communicating Tharja’s personality to the player and that’s why it’s a good design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayni Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Of course I miss the discussion on Kozaki = art devil. There's a bit of confusion on this I admit, but Kozaki in his role would be given guidelines on what he's drawing by the art director for those games (Fates is definitely Kusakihara, Awakening as well) and those would be assessed afterwards by relevant figures in the art team. Look at some of the stuff he's done with the characters that's not official, Nowi wearing decent clothing is better than I expected (now finding her annoying and getting peeved at manakete lore in Awakening's another point) (Also, those Awakening DLC arts aren't exactly meant to be 1:1 to begin with, just artists taking spins on it in their own styles *shudders at Awakening!Celica/Micaiah/Lynlegshuffle/whymakeEirikathebride art) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benice Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Just now, Sooks1016 said: Haven’t you made it to the time skip in Three Houses already? Yep. The art is fine, but there are a few I'm not a big fan of. Ignatz' design kicks butt, though. What a god. The battle animations are sorta lacking as well, but the models themselves are okay. And then there's the S-support CGs... Yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armagon Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Benice said: Berwick saga has my favorite character design out of all the FEs I've played. Not surprised lmao. 2 minutes ago, Ottservia said: Character design is a bit more on the subjective side I will admit but again to use Tharja as an example. Tharja’s character portrait is really expressive as I outlined earlier. Does that mean you have to like the design? No, you don’t. I’m mostly neutral on it myself but I wouldn’t call it a bad design for the reasons I outlined earlier. The design does a really good job of visually communicating Tharja’s personality to the player and that’s why it’s a good design. That all still falls into the subjective category though. Mainly because there's no such thing as objectivity in the arts. 2 minutes ago, Dayni said: There's a bit of confusion on this I admit, but Kozaki in his role would be given guidelines on what he's drawing by the art director for those games (Fates is definitely Kusakihara, Awakening as well) and those would be assessed afterwards by relevant figures in the art team. Yeah as I mentioned before, Kozaki is better when he's given free reign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Just now, Benice said: Yep. The art is fine, but there are a few I'm not a big fan of. Ignatz' design kicks butt, though. What a god. The battle animations are sorta lacking as well, but the models themselves are okay. And then there's the S-support CGs... Yeah. The CGs are just the characters.... Anyway, I was referring to where the game would be in terms of character design. Cause if it’s not number one you’ll learn you’re not the only one who can hire assassins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayni Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Just now, Benice said: Yep. The art is fine, but there are a few I'm not a big fan of. Ignatz' design kicks butt, though. What a god. The battle animations are sorta lacking as well, but the models themselves are okay. And then there's the S-support CGs... Yeah. I mean, I'd argue Ignatz is up there, but I feel like most of the timeskip are improvements anyway. S-support CGs were a mistake, especially in 3H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Benice said: And then there's the S-support CGs... Yeah. Yeah, they're a mixed bag, but this. This is beautiful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benice Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Armagon said: Not surprised lmao. Hey, I'll be the first to admit that if I find a game boring, I'll end up disliking almost everything about it-PoR's design probably isn't all that bad, but because I loathe it so much, I end up disliking everything around it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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