Serenes Forest's Teehee Thread

[Punished Dayni]

4 minutes ago, lightcosmo said:

...when is the Lucina reveal coming? 

7 away I think.

[Saint Rubenio]

Let's talk real business: Gray-skinned possessed dude reveal when?

[Interdimensional Observer]

1 hour ago, Armagon said:

Learned about this indirectly in my History of Motion Pictures class. Something about how Egypt's film industry boomed during this time.

"Between 1936 and 1967, most Arab films were produced in Cairo, and many relied on type-cast characters, familiar plots and “happily ever after” endings."

"...by the mid-1930s, Egypt had already earned international distinction as a rising film center. By the end of World War II, Egypt was producing about 50 films each year, and by the 1980s, Egypt distributed nearly 100 films per year."

"Despite British colonialism, she says, “it was a relatively prosperous economy,” which allowed local entrepreneurs and artists to invest in film and create an industry that started “catering for Egypt and its neighboring countries.” The Egyptian film industry spiked in the 1980s with the introduction of the video cassette, through which it expanded its viewership into the more conservative Arabian Peninsula countries, which had few cinemas but plenty of home video players. At its peak, it was the third-largest film industry in the world, “the Arab Hollywood,” but since then, it has declined. By 2008 it was producing only about 40 films a year, and more recently it is down to 20 to 30 a year."

-A few blurbs summarizing it from something I was reading.

This cultural-entertainment presence, which was accompanied by something of an early edge in the Arab television industry, means that the Egyptian dialect of Arabic (Arabic dialects being not entirely readily mutually intelligible due to over a thousand years since the initial lightning strike of Arab-Muslim conquests) is understood somewhat better by Arabic speakers for whom it isn't their native dialect compared to other nonnative variants.

[Codename Shrimp]

1 hour ago, Armagon said:

Learned about this indirectly in my History of Motion Pictures class. Something about how Egypt's film industry boomed during this time

It's the main reason why the whole arabic world understands egyptian arabic - Egyptian media used to be everywhere in the mideast

1 hour ago, Armagon said:

 

Mr. BBQ himself

28 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

he Egyptian film industry spiked in the 1980s with the introduction of the video cassette, through which it expanded its viewership into the more conservative Arabian Peninsula countries

As egyptians call it "Elzaman elgamil" (tl'd: The "beautiful" times)

When i lived in Egypt, i honeslty loved to watch old egyptian movies and stuff. When i visit it nowadays....Bleh. This isn't the same style i used to watch. 

I'd say after the revolution was kinda the point where decline became really noticeable. I think the last egyptian movie i watched was like 5 years ago and i hated it XD

I did watch some series last year tho, but also starring the old stars that used to to star the same 80-90s stuff XD

28 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

means that the Egyptian dialect of Arabic (Arabic dialects being not entirely readily mutually intelligible due to over a thousand years since the initial lightning strike of Arab-Muslim conquests) is understood somewhat better by Arabic speakers for whom it isn't their native dialect compared to other nonnative variants.

100%

On a different point: The country also became more conservative as time went on. People in the 70s-80s emigrated to Saudi Arabia and other mid east countries and brought back fundamentalist  ideas with them. You hate to see it.

You can even see it in the movies

Edited October 31, 2022 by Imperator Squilla

[Sidereal Wraith]

7 hours ago, Imperator Squilla said:

Hmm

speaking about FE settings...

We need to get a magical girl FE sometime

1 hour ago, Armagon said:

Sigurd is finally in a good game guys.

 

 

[Codename Shrimp]

Tempting

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2 hours ago, lightcosmo said:

Congrats! 

Thanks.

2 hours ago, Armagon said:

Be sure to do these before taking on the final boss (you can save the Ascensions for post-game if you want).

Alrighty then. 👍

2 hours ago, Armagon said:

Sigurd is finally in a good game guys.

[Saint Rubenio]

Oh man, I am so close. My playtest save is at Fomortiis and I've already gotten started on the endings. Very close now. And tomorrow is a free day, too. Sheesh, maybe I'll even have it done tomorrow!

11 minutes ago, Imperator Squilla said:

Tempting

I still have to play Symphony of War.

I wonder when I'll get around to that lol

[Interdimensional Observer]

50 minutes ago, Imperator Squilla said:

As egyptians call it "Elzaman elgamil" (tl'd: The "beautiful" times)

When i lived in Egypt, i honeslty loved to watch old egyptian movies and stuff. When i visit it nowadays....Bleh. This isn't the same style i used to watch. 

I'd say after the revolution was kinda the point where decline became really noticeable. I think the last egyptian movie i watched was like 5 years ago and i hated it XD

I did watch some series last year tho, but also starring the old stars that used to to star the same 80-90s stuff XD

Thanks for the insights!😃 Great to hear from someone who has actually seen some of this stuff and I presume interacted with Egyptians fond of it.

52 minutes ago, Imperator Squilla said:

100%

On a different point: The country also became more conservative as time went on. People in the 70s-80s emigrated to Saudi Arabia and other mid east countries and brought back fundamentalist  ideas with them. You hate to see it.

While Nasser didn't come to power until 1956, I get the sense from my history readings that the driving ideology of the Arab Middle East after World War I came to be Pan-Arabism. That being a form of secular nationalism, with a degree of internationalism in that it sought to break down the political borders that existed to create a single Arab polity.

Add in the popularity of a dose of socialism as an alternative to capitalism for rapid economic development, and it is understandable why religion was politically sidelined (with some government repression I think) in a large swathe of the Middle East (including Turkey). Pan-Arabism seemed to work initially, Nasser's Egypt being the promising heart of it. Yet it fizzled out in the late 50s and 60s as it failed to achieve its -perhaps realistically unattainable- idealistic goals.

This set the stage for an alternative newly charismatic ideology to sweep the Middle East- radicalized Islam. Which debuted in 1978-9 with the Iranian Revolution (setting aside Saudi Arabia's massive religious conservatism as old-school reactionary religion), and then started gaining ground in Afghanistan after the Soviets invaded in 1979, and it sure wasn't helped by Egypt abandoning their fellow Arabs the Palestinians in a sense when they agreed to peace with Israel also in 1978-79. The history of this ideology, well we've lived at a safe distance through its most violent, dramatic, and world-threatening part, haven't we?

[Sidereal Wraith]

 

[Lightcosmo]

44 minutes ago, Imperator Squilla said:

Tempting

I'm gonna say go for it, you wont regret it!

[Codename Shrimp]

51 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

Great to hear from someone who has actually seen some of this stuff and I presume interacted with Egyptians fond of it

Yup!

Also how older egyptians describe egypt is very different than being there XD

The egypt they describe is more akin to the one in older movies haha

51 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

an-Arabism seemed to work initially, Nasser's Egypt being the promising heart of it. Yet it fizzled out in the late 50s and 60s as it failed to achieve its -perhaps realistically unattainable- idealistic goals

There's a good video about this:

 

51 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

This set the stage for an alternative newly charismatic ideology to sweep the Middle East- radicalized Islam.

with different degrees. North African countries for examlple, were usually against radicalized religion. Sadly, that brought them in the arms of something just as bad: Nationalism. You also have countries like Libanon which were quite liberal (for the most part), and then you have the saudi and the like.

51 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

and it sure wasn't helped by Egypt abandoning their fellow Arabs the Palestinians in a sense when they agreed to peace with Israel also in 1978-79.

Afaik Egypt only abandoned palestinians after the arabs just excluded Egypt from everything for even attamepting peace. If the arabs agreed to peace back then there might have been more protection for palestinians by now or even a 2 state solution. The arabs just excluded Egypt from everything instead, and were seen as traitors in the arab world.... Now arab countries are all making peace with Israel anyway. 

Edited October 31, 2022 by Imperator Squilla

[Lightcosmo]

2 hours ago, Punished Dayni said:

7 away I think.

Missed this but thank you!

[GuardianSing]

9 hours ago, Punished Dayni said:

It was worse before.

It was level 20.

I hate it.

Damn Kaga, I bet he's the kind of guy who thinks women need to hold themselves up to higher standards.

9 hours ago, Punished Dayni said:

Female mages promote to priestess, which as a class like Celica's base class can wield swords.

It's pretty neat to be honest to have the option to wield brave swords.

Ahhhh, Interesting.

I'm still giving the sword to Jessie.

9 hours ago, Punished Dayni said:

Are we talking Gonzy? You take that back!

Gonzy is precious, we must protec

Hey now, I'm not attacking him, just reminded of him.

9 hours ago, Saint Rubenio said:

Surprise positivity. The most wholesome plot twist.

I mean you may remember the Awakening character tier list I made. By all accounts I should hate Aversa but she is to me what Nyx is to you.

9 hours ago, Saint Rubenio said:

Edelgard and Rhea kinda, but both have routes where they are allies. Full-blown main villain of the entire game? No, never.

8 hours ago, Armagon said:

Rhea in Crimson Flower. Edelgard in all the other routes.

I don't know about Rhea but Edelgard in Verdant Wind still ends up being the right hand woman of Those Who Slither in The Dark and Nemesis.

Of course, I have no idea what happens in Dimitri's route and I plan to keep it that way.

9 hours ago, Eltosian Kadath said:

On Celica's side of things, I don't think they were trying for Greek tragedy, that is more Alm the patricder's shtick. Celica's story comes across as a more Christian sentiment of martyrdom muddled by a very different cultural lens. I mean she is implied to have some Mila blood with the brand, sacrifices herself so that Mila sees that humanity is worth saving (and thus releases the Falchion), and even gets resurrected, with Jedah as her Judas, a very Christ like story in her final arc. Side note, the death of Beruka reminds me a lot of the older ideas about death bed confession/baptism, showing a bit more of the muddled Christian themes seeping into the story...

Secondary tangent, I think Awakening's story suffers far more for refusing to embrace the Greek tragedy they were building with their repeated motif of your choices not mattering because you can't change the future/fate.

Oh

...is that a spoiler?

8 hours ago, Armagon said:

Scooby-Doo villain.

Hah! That's perfect.

8 hours ago, Armagon said:

Because they only have one promotion, not two.

Ahhh, that makes sense.

I'm still giving the sword to Jessie.

9 hours ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

Happy Halloween everyone!🎃

I'm a super-coward who therefore doesn't like any horror stuff at all, and a holiday with death as prominent aesthetic might in certain instances be able to mess with my mental health Wikipedia's image for the day being one of them. Yet I don't entirely dislike the holiday, even if I don't participate in it.

I both love and hate Horror. On one hand I'd be dead in the ground before I'd watch a horror movie but I also just love creepy moments games, something about it is so thrilling.

7 hours ago, Acacia Sgt said:

Because unless you're doing some kind of challenge, you'd have at least Mae promoted as a Priestess. And the Ladyblade's +12 MT boost to women is nothing to scoff at.

Mae's not a priestess yet because the EXP sink in this game in insane, but she is ready to promote to one next time I get control of Celica's army., and +12 MT is really good

...I'm still giving the sword to Jessie.

7 hours ago, Acacia Sgt said:

It gets explained later on.

Oh, Jedah certainly has an agenda... but the thing is, he speaks "mostly truth" there. Again, gets explained later on.

Alright I'll trust your word for it.

3 hours ago, Armagon said:

 

So far, everyone we've seen have already been revealed in the first trailer. I'm just excited for the folks that were only shown on the wheel.

[Saint Rubenio]

1 minute ago, Edelguardiansing said:

Damn Kaga, I bet he's the kind of guy who thinks women need to hold themselves up to higher standards.

...Uhhhh...

1 minute ago, Edelguardiansing said:

I mean you may remember the Awakening character tier list I made. By all accounts I should hate Aversa but she is to me what Nyx is to you.

Nyx? I mean, I think Nyx is a pretty good character concept that could've been utilized to great effect a different game, which makes me somewhat forgive the completely idiotic design, but I've never thought of her as one of my favorite characters or anything.

...Then again, is that Aversa to you?

1 minute ago, Edelguardiansing said:

Mae's not a priestess yet because the EXP sink in this game in insane

You too? Mae was my last units to promote last I played the game. Her promotion level is way too high and she just stopped gaining much experience at all.

Sage Atlas was the real deal, anyway. Dude one-shot everything with sagittae, his might was so godlike.

1 minute ago, Edelguardiansing said:

...I'm still giving the sword to Jessie.

Hah! I support this, personally.

[Eltosian Kadath]

26 minutes ago, Edelguardiansing said:

Oh

...is that a spoiler?

Oops...I guess I assumed you knew the end bits given your accurate read that this has a relatively happy ending. Then again, most of my revelations, other than the interpretation, wasn't that hard to intuit if you assumed there is a happy ending.

[BrightBow]

10 hours ago, Punished Dayni said:

It was worse before.

It was level 20.

I hate it.

Although at least Priests had the ability to use swords. Not that it matters much, most certainly not enough to make up for 8 additional levels, but it's something Sages have no equivalent of.

But with Echoes giving Sages an ability that increases magic accuracy, they now have superior core abilities compared to Priests. Which means there is no longer a justification for an earlier promotion at all.

Edited October 31, 2022 by BrightBow

[Codename Shrimp]

This is it.

This is peak Fire Emblem

[GuardianSing]

1 hour ago, Saint Rubenio said:

Nyx? I mean, I think Nyx is a pretty good character concept that could've been utilized to great effect a different game, which makes me somewhat forgive the completely idiotic design, but I've never thought of her as one of my favorite characters or anything.

...Then again, is that Aversa to you?

Just the general idea of a character we thought we'd dislike but ended up being pleasantly surprised.

1 hour ago, Saint Rubenio said:

Hah! I support this, personally.

I knew you'd understand.

32 minutes ago, Eltosian Kadath said:

Oops...I guess I assumed you knew the end bits given your accurate read that this has a relatively happy ending. Then again, most of my revelations, other than the interpretation, wasn't that hard to intuit if you assumed there is a happy ending.

The only reason I knew was because A: It's a Nintendo game and so is incredibly unlikely to have a downer ending, and B: Because I knew Walhart was a descendant of Alm and Celica so clearly this isn't going to be a permanent thing.

[Saint Rubenio]

So uh

How y'all like Galzus?

2 minutes ago, Edelguardiansing said:

Just the general idea of a character we thought we'd dislike but ended up being pleasantly surprised.

Ah, yeah, haha. Well, I think Charlotte fits that bill better, in my case. I went in with even lower expectations and ended up liking her more.

2 minutes ago, Edelguardiansing said:

I knew you'd understand.

What can I say. I'm a fan of a good meme.

2 minutes ago, Edelguardiansing said:

The only reason I knew was because A: It's a Nintendo game and so is incredibly unlikely to have a downer ending, and B: Because I knew Walhart was a descendant of Alm and Celica so clearly this isn't going to be a permanent thing.

Mother 3 is a Nintendo game.

[Interdimensional Observer]

2 hours ago, Imperator Squilla said:

There's a good video about this:

 

Concise yet highly educational. Thank you!😃

Nobody wants to be a second-class citizen (which is understandable), and every bigwig wants to be in charge (which is the usual for political avarice). A nasty combination. A maximal Arab state would eventually run into other thorny issues, such as minorities of ethnicity (Kurds and Berbers are first to mind) and religion. Assuming it would even be able to solve socio-economic discrepancies over such a wide swathe of territory in the first place (though TBF, countries of every size have this issue, be it US-big or UK-small).

2 hours ago, Imperator Squilla said:

with different degrees. North African countries for examlple, were usually against radicalized religion. Sadly, that brought them in the arms of something just as bad: Nationalism. You also have countries like Libanon which were quite liberal (for the most part), and then you have the saudi and the like.

The country that hasn't had an official census in what, approaching a century now? Once the "Paris of the East" until the civil war came and brought it to ruin.

Going back to the different degrees, it shouldn't surprise anyone barring the innocent and the ignorant. So many countries, so many different pasts, presents. Wonderful diversity, but what makes for good culture, doesn't necessarily make good for politics.

2 hours ago, Imperator Squilla said:

Afaik Egypt only abandoned palestinians after the arabs just excluded Egypt from everything for even attamepting peace.

From the history of the Arab-Israeli Conflict course I took in college, my professor suggested that none of the Arab countries were actually looking out for the Palestinians. The Arab invasions during the 1948 war were done in the name of the Palestinians, but the invader countries didn't coordinate with each other and were in it for themselves, not each other nor the Palestinians.

...Feels weird to be talking the history of the modern Middle East in a video game forum. But it's good.😎

 

1 hour ago, Edelguardiansing said:

I both love and hate Horror. On one hand I'd be dead in the ground before I'd watch a horror movie but I also just love creepy moments games, something about it is so thrilling.

Oh they are thrilling, but once is enough for me. And if I get caught with no escape, I'm looking away until it's at the Game Over screen.🙈

 

2 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said:

How y'all like Galzus?

He doesn't have enough screen time to love him, in part because he is barely playable. His superb stats are also undermined by it not being difficult in T776 to get amazing combat. Nice character concept I suppose, and nothing outright dislikable about him. Luna + Astra is cool too.

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[Codename Shrimp]

24 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

Concise yet highly educational. Thank you!😃

 

o7

It's a channel i like percisely because of that!

24 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

my professor suggested that none of the Arab countries were actually looking out for the Palestinians. The Arab invasions during the 1948 war were done in the name of the Palestinians, but the invader countries didn't coordinate with each other and were in it for themselves, not each other nor the Palestinians.

Hmm. Could be, however, a war was bound to happen as lotsa people saw what happened there as a big betrayal (By the british, by the refugees who fled there, by the world etc.). If the leaders didn't go to war, they probably would've been replaced very fast.

This is a slightly longer video. Very unbiased, too, i think.

There was no way a war wasn't going to happen with how the british handled everthing there.

24 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

...Feels weird to be talking the history of the modern Middle East in a video game forum. But it's good.😎

 

Better than talking it on a politics forum. Especially taking that topic can turn into a toxic shitshow very fast, hence i avoid it 99.9% of the time XD

Heck, even irl it can be very hard to talk about that.

But we are all respectful here, so all good 😄

Edited October 31, 2022 by Imperator Squilla

[Saint Rubenio]

So uh, I've raised the Demon King's stats, obviously, in an attempt to make him less laughable.

Well, I mean... Uhhhhhhhh... I tried.

There's a different surprise that is more successful in spicing things up, but oh my look at the time

25 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

He doesn't have enough screen time to love him, in part because he is barely playable. His superb stats are also undermined by it not being difficult in T776 to get amazing combat. Nice character concept I suppose, and nothing outright dislikable about him. Luna + Astra is cool too.

Right...

[Interdimensional Observer]

14 minutes ago, Imperator Squilla said:

This is a slightly longer video. Very unbiased, too, i think.

There was no way a war wasn't to happen with how the british handled everthing there.

That is exactly who my professor blamed for the Arab/Palestinian-Israeli Conflict!😆

It's the answer I'd give any stranger in public as well. B/c nobody who isn't educated would expect me to say the British, and they haven't been involved in the modern ongoings. It's the safe answer that ought not to result in getting a flaming s***storm directed at you.

...Now I want to consider buying that book they were on the verge of publishing and gave us a snippet of to read in class. -If I can find it cheap.

*Sniff* I wish I was a college student again.😢