Serenes Forest's Teehee Thread

[Codename Shrimp]

4 minutes ago, Punished Dayni said:

How old is she?

Anime

3 minutes ago, Acacia Sgt said:

Wait, are they giant cherries or she is just small? Are they really cherries...?

You are coming closer Ü

3 minutes ago, BrightBow said:

Hopefully that's just your usual case of AI art not understanding human limbs.

This is like 3 years old, before whole AI thing happened

[Acacia Sgt]

1 minute ago, Imperator Squilla said:

You are coming closer Ü

Caramel Apples?

Yeah, I give up.

[Codename Shrimp]

3 minutes ago, Acacia Sgt said:

Caramel Apples?

Yeah, I give up.

popping cherries with glazed eyes

what can it imply i wonder

It's more dark and fucked up than you can imagine

Edited December 3, 2022 by Imperator Squilla

[Acacia Sgt]

That I got no answer to which of the two is not normal-sized.

[Dayni]

3 minutes ago, Imperator Squilla said:

Anime

So 16 and a war vet. Okay!

3 minutes ago, Imperator Squilla said:

You are coming closer Ü

Oh no........

Just now, Imperator Squilla said:

popping cherries with glazed eyes

what can it imply i wonder

It's more dark and fucked up than you can imagine

[Saint Rubenio]

11 minutes ago, BrightBow said:

Hopefully that's just your usual case of AI art not understanding human limbs.

Official Ruben headcanon is there's no real lore to the armless girl. The artist just gave up on drawing arms.

I can relate. Arms aren't that bad, but they end on hands, which are a bitch to draw.

7 minutes ago, Imperator Squilla said:

popping cherries with glazed eyes

what can it imply i wonder

It's more dark and fucked up than you can imagine

Oh I get it, it's a metaphor for the ending of School Days.

[Dayni]

Now we know what's been holding GF back from getting S/V in a presentable state.

3 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said:

I can relate. Arms aren't that bad, but they end on hands, which are a bitch to draw.

That's why the AI art's having such a hard time with them!

[GuardianSing]

2 hours ago, Armagon said:

Because most Zelda games are not narratively driven. The plot doesn't really matter in most of the games, there can be neat things in them, but at the end of the, the plot is a very simple "this is what you're doing".

There is a game in which you rescue Zelda and also explore her character. It's called Breath of the Wild. It's one of two Zelda games in which the story actually matters, the other being Majora's Mask, which doesn't have Zelda at all.

Ironically, all of Zelda's character growth in that game happens before the game actually starts and is only viewed through optional cutscenes.

They did good in that game, now do better.

2 hours ago, Armagon said:

Oh no, I get what you're saying, my point was moreso that it's a pitfall to tell someone else "hey this is *insert bad thing* of your culture" if you aren't part of it.

And I'm not saying it can't be called out by outsiders. I see the hilichurls or whatever they're called in Genshin Impact and even I can tell how much of a disgusting insult of Native Americans they are (the devs deadass looked at videos of Native dances and used them as reference for the movement of the cursed humanoid monsters).

But a lot of times, trying to tell someone "this is offensive" can backfire.

If you want to complain about white savoir complex then go ahead, but I see the Ainu as brothers and sisters from across the pond who's struggles and pain are one in the same with ours. I may have never been there but our experiences are more similar than not.

Fun fact, Native Americans and Native Ainu have a blood link in our DND and it's theorized that it's because we're both descended from the folks who migrated to North America during the Ice Age.

2 hours ago, Armagon said:

I think that if Wikipedia doesn't have an article about it, then that means there's like basically no information to begin with. Wikipedia is incredibly extensive, chronicling even the most obscure things of our world. If there isn't a page, then that means there's basically like no info beyond like a few lines.

Why this is for the Kamuy, I don't know. With how little of the Ainu are left, it's possible that there simply aren't surviving records and all we have are incredibly basic pieces of info. If there actually was more information, Wikipedia would've had a page about it.

It could be lack of surviving sources but what is more likely is just that the Ainu refuse to share the knowledge to outsiders, something that a lot of Native communities in the states do as well to prevent white washing of their culture like what was done to Wendigos and Thunder Bird.

2 hours ago, Armagon said:

Makes me wonder how many other gods and myths have like no information left.

Think about how I feel that less than 2% of records from pre-colombian America survived to this day.

2 hours ago, Imperator Squilla said:

2 hours ago, Armagon said:

I wouldn't say Kanna appeals to pedophiles btw. I mean if someone's jacking to that, that says more about the person than the author.

Jesus Christ, I swear people could be shown an image of a loli getting railed and they'd still try and argue it's your fault for perceiving the scene sexually

Isn't there literally scene where an underage girl looks up the skirt of Kanna?

And while it may not be Kanna, there's no way you can excuse the pedophile nature of this universe's Quetzalcoatl, so already the show doesn't have a good track record.

2 hours ago, Imperator Squilla said:

Dragon maid ain't even known for being Ainu media.

And neither is Peter Pan Native media, doesn't make this scene any less racist.

2 hours ago, Imperator Squilla said:

And i don't like the show, but you're overreaching way too much.

Overreaching what?

1 hour ago, Imperator Squilla said:

I have news for you

I honestly expected much worse lol

This has the same energy as saying Berwick Saga doesn't kidnap that many women.

That doesn't make it okay.

1 hour ago, Imperator Squilla said:

I think difference between the show itself and the art, even if offical art.

I don't even like Kobayashi, let alone watch/read it that much, but never did i look at Kanna and think "lewding lolis", let alone pedo stuff.

Just because you don't see a thing doesn't mean it isn't there.

Lot of people didn't see the blatant anti-American imperialism in Star Wars, but now we know from it's creator that it was definitely there.

[Codename Shrimp]

28 minutes ago, Edelguardiansing said:

Jesus Christ, I swear people could be shown an image of a loli getting railed and they'd still try and argue it's your fault for perceiving the scene sexually

I swear people could use any skin being shown to try and argue that it's sexualized. Everyone should just wear full covers and never show any skin any more.

2 people can play at that game.

30 minutes ago, Edelguardiansing said:

Overreaching what?

Everything. Not everything is an (or meant as an) insult to a culture. Especially when the connections to said culture are slim at best, and not even close to insulting.

And it's not just that topic, honestly.

33 minutes ago, Edelguardiansing said:

Just because you don't see a thing doesn't mean it isn't there.

 

Just because you see a thing doesn't mean it's actually there.

2 people can play at that game.

34 minutes ago, Edelguardiansing said:

That doesn't make it okay.

To you maybe.

[Lightcosmo]

27 minutes ago, Imperator Squilla said:

Everyone should just wear full covers and never show any skin any more.

This is a funny joke me and my brother go back and forth with! lmao

[Eltosian Kadath]

20 hours ago, lightcosmo said:

Just learned someone in my family is going through cancer and it isnt looking good. Sorry I havent been around much.

I am sorry to hear that. I hope things end up going well...or if things are too far gone that their passing is peaceful.

 

21 hours ago, Armagon said:

 

And yes, her dragon form is accurate: a feathered serpent (dragon)

...It looks like the makes were so ignorant of what the feathered serpent is supposed to look like that they made its mane out of hair/fur instead of feathers. Also the sheep horns are a bit of an oddity. Honestly the design makes me think more of DBZ's version of Shenlong than it does Quetzalcoatl

 

9 hours ago, Armagon said:

I think you and i have very different ideas about what "not doing something" is.

Including Julia on that first list made it fairly clear that the bar you were setting for "doing something" was being placed hilariously far underground, @Edelguardiansing simply doesn't have the knowledge to recognize that.

 

1 hour ago, Saint Rubenio said:

It's probably a mistake to insert myself into this conversation.

What the heck, it's 100% a mistake. But I've made a discovery I could've done without and I won't have peace of mind until I share it.

See, I did a quick google search to make sure that I wasn't misremembering the fact that Kobayashi's author drew loli porn. Which, fine, you can tell me that this doesn't have to do anything with Kobayashi itself. It's a bit questionable that the creator would get up to those shenanigans, but you can make the argument it shouldn't affect Kobayashi. Fair enough.

...However, during the course of this google search, I discovered that on top of that, the author also drew this... uh, thing with Kanna herself. (Please don't look at it. It legit made me retch a bit. I'm not even sure if I should link it here.)

So I dunno. I know I'm an anime hater and all, but if all the deliberate camera shots, the twister scene, the scene where Kobayashi eats poisoned chocolates and becomes horny for Kanna, Saikawa's entire existence being "I'm visibly, obviously horny for Kanna" and the whole mess with the big tiddy gf and the shota called Shota weren't enough, this is just... How do you excuse this? How can that not mean the creator intended for the character to be sexually attractive to at least "certain demographics"? Genuinely curious to know, because I frankly don't see it. Unless you'll tell me there's nothing lewd about that drawing, in which case, well... Yeah there's nothing I can say to that.

For what its worth, I agree with this, and it tracks with what I know of the series, and creator.

 

7 minutes ago, Imperator Squilla said:

I swear people could use any skin being shown to try and argue that it's sexualized. Everyone should just wear full covers and never show any skin any more.

2 people can play at that game.

And that incredibly disingenuous hypothetical argument falls incredibly flat, given that nobody here has once talked about her showing too much skin, its that characters in the actual show are clearly lusting after the child, the official art (and some of the framing in the anime) leans towards lewding her, and its all treated for laughs.

Why are you defending this when you haven't even bothered to pay attention to what was being said?

 

17 minutes ago, Imperator Squilla said:

Just because you see a thing doesn't mean it's actually there.

2 people can play at that game.

When it comes to an interpretive thing like art, gouging out your own eyes doesn't stop it from existing. You can try arguing how prominent, relevant, minor, intentional, or harmful it is, but intentionally blinding yourself to it existing is simply ignorant.

 

[GuardianSing]

1 hour ago, Imperator Squilla said:

I swear people could use any skin being shown to try and argue that it's sexualized. Everyone should just wear full covers and never show any skin any more.

2 people can play at that game.

And it's not just that topic, honestly.

Just because you see a thing doesn't mean it's actually there.

2 people can play at that game.

To you maybe.

Could you give me more material to work with than just Uno reverse card.

1 hour ago, Imperator Squilla said:

Everything. Not everything is an (or meant as an) insult to a culture. Especially when the connections to said culture are slim at best, and not even close to insulting.

It's not your place to say what is and isn't insulting a culture if it's not your own. And sure, neither is it my place to say what they should be insulted by, but as a Mayan I take offense to how my God is portrayed so I can't imagine an Ainu person being all too happy about Kanna Kamuy being turned into a underaged girl who is put into intimate situations with another underage girl.

1 hour ago, Imperator Squilla said:

Just because you see a thing doesn't mean it's actually there.

Well apparently the artist who draws her sees it, so I don't know what else to tell you.

Edited December 3, 2022 by Edelguardiansing

[Codename Shrimp]

1 hour ago, Eltosian Kadath said:

And that incredibly disingenuous hypothetical argument falls incredibly flat

And his arguement totally doesn't. 

1 hour ago, Edelguardiansing said:

Ainu person being all too happy about Kanna Kamuy being turned into a underaged girl who is put into intimate situations with another underage girl

If they see this Kanna as the same Kanna.

Or IDK, i've seen other anime portray Ainu (and watched some Documentaries) and Kanna ain't like anything like that at all.

Edited December 3, 2022 by Imperator Squilla

[Venger_06]

 

6 hours ago, Imperator Squilla said:

Asian anime powers

Only Japan was supposed to have it, damn it!

3 hours ago, Imperator Squilla said:

Implying that we have the ability to do this when we failed to score more than 2 goals in Serbia

5 hours ago, Punished Dayni said:

Discuss.

It's okay for characters to make dumb decisions as long as it in character.

4 hours ago, Saint Rubenio said:

See, I did a quick google search to make sure that I wasn't misremembering the fact that Kobayashi's author drew loli porn.

Based

4 hours ago, Saint Rubenio said:

...However, during the course of this google search, I discovered that on top of that, the author also drew this... uh, thing with Kanna herself.

Omega based

4 hours ago, Saint Rubenio said:

(Please don't look at it. It legit made me retch a bit. I'm not even sure if I should link it here.)

Pussy

2 hours ago, Imperator Squilla said:

But i searched through my "anime" folders (which are mostly gaming folders lol) and there are the "lewdest" pics i could find, if you could even call em lewd

Man-eater

2 hours ago, Saint Rubenio said:

WHY DOES THAT GIRL HAVE NO ARMS

[Acacia Sgt]

I forgot to bring up it did reminded me of Katawa Shoujo as well.

[Armagon]

3 hours ago, Saint Rubenio said:

but if all the deliberate camera shots

Not on Kanna.

3 hours ago, Saint Rubenio said:

the twister scene

I'll give you this but only because when isn't Twister sus?

3 hours ago, Saint Rubenio said:

the scene where Kobayashi eats poisoned chocolates and becomes horny for Kanna,

In which Kobayashi immediately realizes something is wrong and goes to her room to wait it off before anything can happen.

Context, my friend.

3 hours ago, Saint Rubenio said:

Saikawa's entire existence being "I'm visibly, obviously horny for Kanna"

But still a kid. A childhood crush, exaggerated for comedic effect.

3 hours ago, Saint Rubenio said:

and the whole mess with the big tiddy gf and the shota called Shota weren't enough

I think this is straight-up self-awarness.

This one i can kinda understand being put off but it's still a far cry from pedophilia advocation. Both JoJo and Dragon Ball (like the OG Dragon Ball) have scenes with naked boys, are these advocating for sexualization of children?

If these things arouse someone, that's on them, the author had nothing to do with that.

3 hours ago, Imperator Squilla said:

I think difference between the show itself and the art, even if offical art.

Pretty much. The average Dragon Maid viewer is not gonna come across the drawing that was on Reddit that required you to log in (Ruben, do you have a Reddit account with NSFW turned on?)

2 hours ago, Imperator Squilla said:

Girl on the right looks like she was drawn by AI.

1 hour ago, Edelguardiansing said:

Ironically, all of Zelda's character growth in that game happens before the game actually starts and is only viewed through optional cutscenes.

Congratulations, you have discovered non-linear storytelling.

1 hour ago, Edelguardiansing said:

Fun fact, Native Americans and Native Ainu have a blood link in our DND and it's theorized that it's because we're both descended from the folks who migrated to North America during the Ice Age.

Oh that's neat.

You know, when i first found out about the Ainu, i was like "wait Japan has indigenous people" because i just assumed that was just the Japanese. I didn't realize they came later. And that is unfortunate, how so many people know about the Ainu. Not everyone can tell you the name of every tribe in the Americas but "indigenous people live in the Americas" is a well known fact.

1 hour ago, Edelguardiansing said:

Thunder Bird.

You're gonna have to explain this one to me because i looked it up and just got an email service, so then i tried being more specific and i got raw-ass images about lightning birds so uh.....yeah explain.

1 hour ago, Edelguardiansing said:

Jesus Christ, I swear people could be shown an image of a loli getting railed and they'd still try and argue it's your fault for perceiving the scene sexually

Now this escalated faster than Venezuela's inflation rate. Buddy, you know damn well that is not the same thing.

1 hour ago, Edelguardiansing said:

sn't there literally scene where an underage girl looks up the skirt of Kanna?

No?

1 hour ago, Edelguardiansing said:

there's no way you can excuse the pedophile nature of this universe's Quetzalcoatl, so already the show doesn't have a good track record.

See what i told Ruben about Dragon Ball and JoJo.

55 minutes ago, Eltosian Kadath said:

..It looks like the makes were so ignorant of what the feathered serpent is supposed to look like that they made its mane out of hair/fur instead of feathers.

Simple drawing on the anime. The manga's a bit more detailed with the feathers

Feathered serpent is a broad concept anyways.

1 hour ago, Eltosian Kadath said:

Including Julia on that first list made it fairly clear that the bar you were setting for "doing something" was being placed hilariously far underground,

Yeah in hindsight i shouldn't have but to be fair, she is instrumental for beating the final boss. I mean it's either her or banging your head on a wall for an hour.

1 hour ago, Edelguardiansing said:

but as a Mayan

Ok this is actually completely unrelated to everything else, i have a question. I don't know if you've seen Wakanda Forever but given that you are Mayan, what do you think of the MCU version of Namor?

I'll give some brief context here but in the movie, Namor is the leader of Talokan, an underwater Mayan nation powered by Vibranium, making it the most powerful nation on the planet alongside Wakanda. His people refer to him as the Kukulkan because of his mutant abilities (being able to breath air outside of water, the wings on his feet that allow him to skate through the air, superhuman strength, drastically increased lifespan). He does not give a damn about the surface world but is forced to take action when America begins scouring the ocean floor for Vibranium and offers (threatens) Wakanda to join him, as Wakanda is Talokan's equal (but on land). And yes, we do see how the everyday people of Talokan live, that's neat.

Namor's actor is Tenoch Huerta, who is a Mexican of indigenous descent, having both Nahua and Purepecha blood in him.

(Side note but Namor's origin in the comics is Atlantean a.k.a Greek but since the movies shape public perception of comic book characters and we already had an Aquaman movie a few years ago, it'd feel too similar. That and Namor being white in Wakanda Forever wouldn't really fit well with the themes).

1 hour ago, Edelguardiansing said:

Well apparently the artist who draws her sees it, so I don't know what else to tell you.

A lot of Mangaka draw weird shit tbf.

________________

Oh shit i got a quiz due today. And a paper (that has no minimum word count, just whatever i need to write to finish the job maybe i can half-ass this)

[Venger_06]

3 minutes ago, Armagon said:

Ok this is actually completely unrelated to everything else, i have a question. I don't know if you've seen Wakanda Forever but given that you are Mayan, what do you think of the MCU version of Namor?

They removed his bulge

[Armagon]

1 minute ago, Green06 said:

They removed his bulge

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GOD DAMN IT, THIS MADE ME LAUGH!

[Codename Shrimp]

8 minutes ago, Green06 said:

Implying that we have the ability to do this when we failed to score more than 2 goals in Serbia

With our Defense you absolutely could

9 minutes ago, Green06 said:

I still gotta read that

8 minutes ago, Armagon said:

The average Dragon Maid viewer is not gonna come across the drawing that was on Reddit that required you to log in

LPT: old reddit doesn't need login for nsfw

10 minutes ago, Armagon said:

A lot of Mangaka draw weird shit tbf.

A lot of Mangaka start their careers with drawing weird shit

11 minutes ago, Armagon said:

Oh shit i got a quiz due today. And a paper

Good luck!

[Armagon]

Just now, Imperator Squilla said:

...Melia?

[Codename Shrimp]

12 minutes ago, Armagon said:

...Melia?

Illya (best girl) and Melia (best girl) combined

[Armagon]

 

[Lightcosmo]

2 hours ago, Eltosian Kadath said:

am sorry to hear that. I hope things end up going well...or if things are too far gone that their passing is peaceful.

Thank you! 

I am uncertain of the details so far.

[Lightcosmo]

Topic of design got heated quick. Everyone knows where I stand so I wont bother. (I.E we need more designs like Pyra/Mythra, late era Trails Fie, etc)

[Acacia Sgt]

There, finally put up the RF4 one-shot at the other places.