JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 1 minute ago, MaskedAmpharos said: I'd recommend it while the special maps are still there. I personally found #2 the easiest to autobattle, but if your team works better for one of the other four then go for it! Right i guess training Camus can wait since the "deadline" for him is 2 more weeks anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedAmpharos Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 1 minute ago, JSND said: Right i guess training Camus can wait since the "deadline" for him is 2 more weeks anyway That's the spirit! Though personally I'm gonna try to finish training Camus in time to grind HM for him on the maps before they disappear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezzy Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 30 minutes ago, MaskedAmpharos said: That's the spirit! Though personally I'm gonna try to finish training Camus in time to grind HM for him on the maps before they disappear. I sorta gave up on grinding HM, since the reward is so minuscule for the time and effort put into it. I just gradually get it as a play normally, now. Maybe we'll get a double HM event at some point. Although, there being hard cap on it paradoxically also kills my motivation for grinding it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Just got Reinhardt into the 1k HM club! That gave enough feathers to upgrade another Lon'qu to complete my build for Fast Blue Xander. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyperBowser Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 I managed to get a spare young!Tiki from the Camus banner and had her future self inherit Flametongue+: These are her stats now after Ninian's 'Fortify Dragons' and a single 'Fortify Attack'. She tends to blow up any melee unit who tries to attack her (bonfire activates for +22 damage if she's being doubled while quick riposte is up) while taking little to no damage herself (besides the Fury 3 recoil). I have a M!Robin backing her up as a delete button for Falchion and colourless units and a Titania to deal with the blue units Tiki can't facetank (like most blue mages) while also being a healer with reciprocal aid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezzy Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 26 minutes ago, HyperBowser said: I managed to get a spare young!Tiki from the Camus banner and had her future self inherit Flametongue+: These are her stats now after Ninian's 'Fortify Dragons' and a single 'Fortify Attack'. She tends to blow up any melee unit who tries to attack her (bonfire activates for +22 damage if she's being doubled while quick riposte is up) while taking little to no damage herself (besides the Fury 3 recoil). I have a M!Robin backing her up as a delete button for Falchion and colourless units and a Titania to deal with the blue units Tiki can't facetank (like most blue mages) while also being a healer with reciprocal aid. Is Flametongue better for her? 1-2 Counter weapons are generally pretty nice. I know lots of people give Baby Tiki the Lightning Breath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezzy Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 26 minutes ago, HyperBowser said: I managed to get a spare young!Tiki from the Camus banner and had her future self inherit Flametongue+: These are her stats now after Ninian's 'Fortify Dragons' and a single 'Fortify Attack'. She tends to blow up any melee unit who tries to attack her (bonfire activates for +22 damage if she's being doubled while quick riposte is up) while taking little to no damage herself (besides the Fury 3 recoil). I have a M!Robin backing her up as a delete button for Falchion and colourless units and a Titania to deal with the blue units Tiki can't facetank (like most blue mages) while also being a healer with reciprocal aid. Is Flametongue better for her? 1-2 Counter weapons are generally pretty nice. I know lots of people give Baby Tiki the Lightning Breath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyperBowser Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Rezzy said: Is Flametongue better for her? 1-2 Counter weapons are generally pretty nice. I know lots of people give Baby Tiki the Lightning Breath. Adult!Tiki doesn't have the greatest resistance and most ranged units are magic based (and usually have high resistance). Flametongue gives her some extra damage and a shorter special cooldown that ensures she can activate bonfire in one round of combat (but only if she get's doubled). Lightning Breath is still better to deal with archers and the uncommon dagger user but M!Robin or any other raven tome user deals with those just fine. Spoiler Flametongue also looks cooler Edited June 4, 2017 by HyperBowser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuxSpes Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 1 minute ago, HyperBowser said: Adult!Tiki doesn't have the greatest resistance and most ranged units are magic based (and usually have high resistance). Flametongue gives her some extra damage and a shorter special cooldown that ensures she can activate bonfire in one round of combat (but only if she get's doubled). Lightning Breath is still better to deal with archers and the uncommon dagger user but M!Robin or any other raven tome user deals with those just fine. I wouldn't say 30 res after Fortify Dragons is bad when you have a -Res nature. Looking at the mass duel simulator, if we're only considering melee units, the main advantage of using Flametongue is that you can blow up more units in 1 round, but after 2 rounds, the difference is negligible. However, if you take into account ranged units, a Lightning Breath+ can take on a majority of non-blue mages, so I'd personally keep Lightning Breath on her, especially if her nature is +Atk/-Spd instead of of +Atk/-Res. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaden Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Whoa, I just noticed that. Thanks, TV Tropes (for wasting my time again). Doesn't happen in-game, but Nino and Ursula are the only mages drawn with tomes -- so, not bride Caeda or Spring Camilla and Lucina -- who don't have them open when they attack regardless if it's their normal, special, or critical health portraits -- Ursula doesn't even have a tome in her critical health art. Nino makes sense since she's illiterate, but Ursula? Hmm... Anyway, Boey, Cecilia, Celicia, Linde, Raigh, both Robins, Sophia, Soren, and Veronica have their tomes closed when at critical health. Everyone else has their tomes always open. Bonus points to Bruno still using magic to levitate his tome. It's neat touch that her art references that Nino can't actually read and just casts spells based on memory. It would have been cooler if in-game, her tome never opened, but whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 12 minutes ago, Kaden said: It's neat touch that her art references that Nino can't actually read and just casts spells based on memory. It would have been cooler if in-game, her tome never opened, but whatever. Well, the Echoes people shouldn't even have tomes.... So for my next 20k feathers, I can't decide on who to promote. Alfonse to have a full set of Askrs for Arena? Xander? Camus? Life and Death fodder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 27 minutes ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said: Well, the Echoes people shouldn't even have tomes.... So for my next 20k feathers, I can't decide on who to promote. Alfonse to have a full set of Askrs for Arena? Xander? Camus? Life and Death fodder? You man up, don't be a punk, and promote that Hana so Celica won't have to settle for this swift sparrow blasphemy. I just save mine until I feel like spending them lol. I suggest you do the same. I would have had 65k of I didn't promote Life and Death fodder for my own Celica ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, Arcanite said: You man up, don't be a punk, and promote that Hana so Celica won't have to settle for this swift sparrow blasphemy. I just save mine until I feel like spending them lol. I suggest you do the same. I would have had 65k of I didn't promote Life and Death fodder for my own Celica ;) The L&D isn't for Celica anyway. I want to spend feathers, I just don't know who deserves them first... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said: I want to spend feathers, I just don't know who deserves them first... Well take a few drinks before you promote Alfonse cause you're definitely gonna need something to numb the pain for that one. Anywho, what do you need? If you're completely set for units, then what do you want to do? Anything crazy you want to try, like Death Blow, Redblade Lilina? XD 3 minutes ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said: The L&D isn't for Celica anyway. I see you stand by your flakiness Edited June 4, 2017 by Arcanite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Arcanite said: Well take a few drinks before you promote Alfonse cause you're definitely gonna need something to numb the pain for that one. Anywho, what do you need? If you're completely set for units, then what do you want to do? Anything crazy you want to try, like Death Blow, Redblade Lilina? XD I see you stand by your flakiness Well, no idea. At least until I pull Bride Cordelia, if that ever happens. Xander and Camus are both pretty cool though. I actually went and checked again, and for my +2 Celica, L&D offers no additional wins on PP and only a few on EP compared to Swift Sparrow, but almost double the EP losses. I imagine it gets a bit worse with SI factored in. screw L&D Celicas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmokestack Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 54 minutes ago, Kaden said: Bonus points to Bruno still using magic to levitate his tome. Sanaki does that too. 41 minutes ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said: So for my next 20k feathers, I can't decide on who to promote. Alfonse to have a full set of Askrs for Arena? Xander? Camus? Life and Death fodder? Camus is great, bonus unit or not. Celica deserves better than Swift Sparrow though. Decisions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Just now, MrSmokestack said: Celica deserves better than Swift Sparrow though. Decisions... Swift Sparrow is amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said: Well, no idea. At least until I pull Bride Cordelia, if that ever happens. Xander and Camus are both pretty cool though. Well who do you need more? A sword on a horse or a lance on a horse? I don't need either of them, so I'm fine as is. 2 minutes ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said: Swift Sparrow is amazing Too bad you wasted your Lucina :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Just now, Arcanite said: Well who do you need more? A sword on a horse or a lance on a horse? I don't need either of them, so I'm fine as is. Too bad you wasted your Lucina :( I need 5*s stacked on 5*s. It's 5*s all the way up. I haven't actually given my Celica Swift Sparrow yet. I'm waiting for the fodder to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmokestack Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 1 minute ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said: I haven't actually given my Celica Swift Sparrow yet. I'm waiting for the fodder to come. Then LaD all the way. A year at a minimum is quite a while to wait for TurboTax to reach its maximum potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, MrSmokestack said: Then LaD all the way. A year at a minimum is quite a while to wait for TurboTax to reach its maximum potential. I'm not really in a hurry. On my Arena Defense team, I have a Kagerou (L&D) with Hone Spd and Rally Atk right next to Celica. 59 Atk and 43 Spd at full health is already kinda annoying, judging by my Defense wins. @Arcanite Thanks, Alfonse it is Edited June 4, 2017 by SatsumaFSoysoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said: I need 5*s stacked on 5*s. It's 5*s all the way up. You have 2 options: 1. Promote Xander since he came first, then promote Camus since he came after 2. Life and Death Celica. You better choose option 2 if you know what's good for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 tfw you thought someone ninja'd you but they actually posted after you so you edit your post accordingly but it was for nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said: tfw you thought someone ninja'd you but they actually posted after you What if Ragnarok could help you think straight? Ahem, you can certainly go for Alfonse if you want. It'll just be a little odd promoting a unit that sucks eggs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, Arcanite said: What if Ragnarok could help you think straight? Ahem, you can certainly go for Alfonse if you want. It'll just be a little odd promoting a unit that sucks eggs. What if Ragnarok in Heroes also came with Mila's Turnwheel, so you can roll back time? It's mostly just so I have an Arena bonus unit even if I don't get good pulls, or don't want to pull. Edited June 4, 2017 by SatsumaFSoysoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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