Lord of Azure Flame: Chat

[Kanami]

Possibly? Unlike the immortal Isotov and Irina, I'm not forced to god-mod my way out of every situation, I doubt anyone will bother saving her, so I'm most likely going to have to use a third parties help here.

[Phoenix]

In the chapter thread, I mentioned that Viveka was being cautious because "anything" could go wrong ... THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I MEANT

I also noticed that Nady god modded me and killed soldiers that I specifically stated had already left the fortress.(I don't know why you'd kill them anyway, you're just making things worse for all of us what with the crime spree and all)

Rather than retconning this and replenishing Viv's troop numbers(which I really should), I'm just going to let Ether screw our way out of this. Bring in the Haltons or whatever, I don't care at this point. Almost every post I've made the past few chapters have been made with keeping Nady's tampering to a minimum at the forefront. I find it ridiculous that some of us have been conditioned to have to be on the look out for someone else god modding us every other post. We're supposed to be sharing a story ... not sabotaging subplots just because we're BORED.

Yes I am cranky in the morning ... unless I wake to the smell of female pheromones ... which I didn't.

I'm just getting sick and tired of having to focus more on keeping my characters from getting grilled alive than actually enjoying the rp

Luckily, I have a way to fix it ... it's not fair for Nady(democratically), but it works for me ... more on this later ... after I get back from the DMV(not leaving just yet) ... in the mean time ... I lurk ....

@ Snike

Either Ether does his Halton thing, or the entire group is Conrad's new b*tch. Their choice -_-

EDIT: Replying to Nady's ... OTHER post ....

Edited May 27, 2010 by Phoenix

[Snike]

K. BTW, the unconscious form one of your characters? Or can I jack it and have it be Eric, because he was mentioned once this chapter?

Edit: Directed at Nade. Need to start using quote button >.<

Edited May 27, 2010 by Snike

[Kanami]

You're the one who said they got killed <_<

Your crankiness seems to have screwed up you mind, since that post was detailing what Kamilla had been doing while you lot were... surrendering? Time span error on your behalf, stop pulling stuff out that doesn't exist, and focus on how you're going to put this thing back on track?

*Sniggers* God modding every other post? You're the one stealing PC's to do what you want XD

Sharing a story? And throwing a hissy fit when you don't get what you want is sharing a story? In that case, this attack was part of "my story" as I plan to have these guys appear again in future, they're not a random attack, and will make their intentions clear sometime in the plot.

Democratically or not, by trying to silence me, you're only proving your inability and immaturity. But do whatever you want, you're most likely just whining to Snowy to help you.

Unlike you, I've been indicating that I've been getting sick through feedback and through Kamilla for awhile now, but seeing as how no one seems to take those comments seriously. I provided more then fair warning, I even asked you personally for permission, which you granted as long as I didn't hurt Viveka.

@Snike, It was supposed to be Arrin, since apparently he was in the forest before me, but you can jack the character, as long as your character also ran into the forest (cause it doesn't make sense for him to be where Kamilla if he's outside with the Iso/Katie group

Edited May 27, 2010 by Nadesico

[riariadne]

How do we outrun them.... err I don't know, maybe we can make some random caves appear, and it's connected to the throne room of Ilyphina? That's it! There's caves in the forest connected to the throne room that no one knows about, and we'll call these caves the Cobalt Caves.

This mess, is the result of you and Chase trying to pursue a goal which seems improbable, and not explaining yourselves when asked. I admit you don't "have" to answer my queries, and I'm not offended by that in the slightest, however if you want to keep everything hush hush, then expect your plans to be interrupted in some shape of form.

I'm going to interject here. These "random caves" had existed for a while, before we were even going to Ilyphina, and I was originally going to bring up actually using them later until everyone said "let's use them now". They also don't lead directly into the throne room of Ilyphina. They don't even go inside the city, or inside any other city for that matter.

You're being antagonistic. In which case, why should we have to explain everything when everyone else is fine with it until you bring it up? It's not helpful and it's not fun/ny.

Also:

???: General Upson, good evening.

Upson: You! I thought I told you not to come here.

???: I'm terribly sorry sir, but we had an agreement.

Upson: What? You supply me with.... the stuff-

???: -And you permit our use of fort Selizara, it's now burning in flames thanks to your soldiers.

Upson: What? I haven't, wait, Jackson! That incompetent.

???: I'm terribly sorry but our contract is over goodbye.

An aura of darkness eneveloped the man and he was gone, along with Upson's head.

The former generals lifeless beheaded body lying before in the center of his office.

The fuck is this? If that's supposed to by Conrad it's an awful use of him. There's several major problems with this.

A: He can't use magic. That's instantly an issue.

B: I don't appreciate my characters being turned into tyrants, thank you very much.

C: If you're going to make someone else's characters be in some sort of deal, tell them.

Edited May 27, 2010 by Lightning

[Kanami]

I'm going to interject here. These "random caves" had existed for a while, before we were even going to Ilyphina, and I was originally going to bring up actually using them later until everyone said "let's use them now". They also don't lead directly into the throne room of Ilyphina. They don't even go inside the city, or inside any other city for that matter.

You're being antagonistic. In which case, why should we have to explain everything when everyone else is fine with it until you bring it up? It's not helpful and it's not fun/ny.

Fine, I'll call them the ummm, Crimson caves, and since their caves I made I can do whatever with them right?

As I said, I'm being antagonistic now due to being ignored by you, Phoenix and Snowy and as I've said, I'm not offended by you wanting to keep everything hush-hush but you're essentially telling me not to mess with things I don't even know I'm messing with. It's not helpful to your plot, and your goals, but I never said I was supporting your goals, furthermore I don't even know what your goals are other then getting Conrad to over-ride Harolds orders and pardoning the group. And in this case, I'm being antagonistic, because I disagree with it's possibility, and am trying to avoid it

Edited May 27, 2010 by Nadesico

[riariadne]

@ Crimson caves part: You're missing the point completely. They've already been approved by Snowy (a few cchapters before in fact) and they don't lead absolutely everywhere. There are specific places where one would enter/ exit. One being near that border town, one being near the capital, one being near the small town, one being in a forest, and the last being near the second biggest city in Eliyisma. That's it. No more. Can't randomly pop up anywhere else.

@ Goals part: ... Please tell me when I said that was my goal ever. Also read edit.

Edited May 27, 2010 by Lightning

[Snowy_One]

Naddy, If you want to do something and are worried it might upset something, you can always PM me. I'm always willing to review and help out anyone who desires to do anything. Additionally, I remained out of this because it was initially a minor dispute between you and Phoenix... until you threatened to set the entire forest on fire. As a rule of thumb, if anything you do seems like it could potentially adversely affect another character that is not yours, it is best to ask first. If not, I WILL intervene to preserve another players right to not have their character forced to develop in any one way.

With that said, Phoenix... Even though what Naddy did may or may not have been godmodding, you do need to accept it for what it is. If someone does indeed clearly godmod to a point where it is gamebreaking and needs to be dealt with, inform either Cynthia or I of it. We will handle it and we will decide if it needs addressing. If I am gone raiding or she is gone doing... Cynthia things... just wait a bit. There are other things that can be done, and there is no need to start a fight over anything here.

Okay?

[riariadne]

Well said Snowy.

[Inactive Account]

edit: Ah, Snowy beat me to it, this section erased.

As for killing characters off, I can't speak for anyone else, but while I considered the possibility of my characters' deaths, I didn't design them as throwaways, and certainly didn't want to kill either of them off while the chapters were still in the single digits. By events thus far, I'd say at least half (if not more) of the party should be dead by now. I don't think this RP was meant to be one of those depressing affairs where half the named characters die. When it takes godmodding for half the party to stay alive, and we've only completed five chapters, I think there's a problem.

Now, I'm gonna edge away from this and try to do something with the actual RP...

Edited May 27, 2010 by Darth Lacuna

[Snike]

@Snike, It was supposed to be Arrin, since apparently he was in the forest before me, but you can jack the character, as long as your character also ran into the forest (cause it doesn't make sense for him to be where Kamilla if he's outside with the Iso/Katie group

It looks like that wasn't Arrin, anyways, because he just got caught. The reason I'm asking this, is because it would be convenient, and according to the Unit list, Eric wasn't in action, meaning he might not have made it out of the forest. IIRC,everyone but Eric in the forest group went back to see Damian, so it isn't too far-fetched to say that they lost him.

[Kanami]

@ Crimson caves part: You're missing the point completely. They've already been approved by Snowy (a few cchapters before in fact) and they don't lead absolutely everywhere. There are specific places where one would enter/ exit. One being near that border town, one being near the capital, one being near the small town, one being in a forest, and the last being near the second biggest city in Eliyisma. That's it. No more. Can't randomly pop up anywhere else.

@ Goals part: ... Please tell me when I said that was my goal ever. Also read edit.

Hmm will this do?

"I told you that I know the person with the axe very well. Whether or not that's a good thing, I'm not sure, but if you care that much I might as well help... not like I have anything better to do. Besides... if this works, we might just all be cleared of criminal status."

If not Phoenix has indicated more then once in this argument that this attack is likely to cause trouble for Viveka/Conrad joining. And unless they're willing to ditch their military positions and joining bandits, then the crimes will need to be wavered before any sort of joining happens.

As for Quote, re-read it, I'll let you read over it and think of any other possible interpretations.

@Snowy, Hmm go figure, actually ignore that.

It may have been a minor dispute, but I've asked you multiple times in this thread regarding issues, and have yet to receive a response for any of them.

I tried to give an obvious indicator back at the caves, with the soldiers approaching, I believe I even made an OoC post saying they'd arrive soon, and the result of that was having the soldiers rendered useless. And therefore, despite this being your RP, I refuse to put everything before you before putting it into action.

Your rule of thumb mainly is too vague to hold any meaning.

For starters, we'll go with Hmm let's see, Kelas telling everyone to get on a mount back at the village.

"I oppose that, since I'm being forced to ride with someone"

I guess I'll also oppose people holding daggers to my throat since that forces me to react to the dagger, and it's not a reaction I have availabe to Kamilla.

Hmm what else, I'll oppose the Cobalt Caves, since umm my character doesn't like dark places and their usage forces me to go through caves.

I oppose Isotov walking in on me, in the exact moment I salt the food. And him revealing to everyone what I had planned.

I could go on? If you want to enact rules like that, then either make them clearer, or I'm going to abuse the system, of "my rights" to not have my character altered.

By setting fire to the forest, I may have endangered Kelas, Arrin and Amari, but if they wished, they could have just as easily pulled back out of the forest and joined the main group, no other characters were in the forest other then soldiers NPC's under Phoenix's control. If your protection covers them as well, then I'm going to go make myself some bandits with awesome stats (they yield no exp, so apparently this is okay) and will complain if anyone attacks them while I pillage a few random villages I make up.

@Phoenix/Reinfleche

I find it hardly humorous that the two accusing me of God-modding are the ones which too control of Percy (butchered his pompous character) and Damian (Went against his intentions) recently.

Furthermore, please define, your definition of "God-Modding" since it seems to differ from my own.

@Snike: In that case feel free to take it, if not it could have just been a random soldier. Or Kamilla's imagination.

Edited May 27, 2010 by Nadesico

[Ether]

Ah yes,arguments...too bad they are stopping the actual RP from advancing...

Please Phoenix,I only have around 4 1/2 hours a day on weekdays for activity,and it's being wasted...

WASTED! *sobs uncontrollably*

[Kanami]

Please Phoenix,I only have around 4 1/2 hours a day on weekdays for activity,and it's being wasted...

WASTED! *sobs uncontrollably*

.... Isn't it a Thursday for you? Or at the latest a Friday morning?

[Snike]

Thursday, around 6:20, I'd guess.

[Ether]

yeah,it's thurday

I have about 2:40 before I have to go for about 19-20 hours.This is the only time I have unless it's saturday/Sunday/holiday

[Kanami]

>_< I read weekdays = weekends XD Happens when you wake up at 3 in the morning to answer flaming birds and thunder.

Hmm, essentially this has degraded into Snowy rules against mine Anarchy, so I'm willing to take it to PM's if that's what Snowy wants to do. Alternatively we could continue sitting here and arguing, I'm happy either way.

As for the RP, Snike seems to have something planned, so I'm waiting for that.

[Snowy_One]

If it's clear I've either missed or haven't responded to any question you have asked, PM me. I do not ignore any people willingly for any reason.

As for my definition, it is one thing to have two characters interact throughout the RP, or to be forced into something easily ignored (such as riding a horse). However, holding a knife to someone's throat, or threatening to set fire to a forest in which everyone is at the moment is a different matter entirely. If the roleplayer feels it can be handled on their own, then fine, I won't intervene so long as it doesn't threaten another character directly. However, if they do not want their character to engage in something that is clearly life-altering/ending or anything of the kind, I will either intervene, or I will give permission for someone else to godmod within reason.

I don't lay down rules or interact as a matter of the letter of the law. I'm not seeking to limit you, or anyone else in any way I don't have to. However, what you did was out of line and at LEAST should have been run by me via PM before doing it (I certainly don't recall giving you permission to set an entire forest on fire, doubly so while the party was actually IN it!).

I would rather not have to define myself by any amount either. This is not a democracy. Not within this RP at least. It's a despotism. It doesn't matter how much I define the law, I am never confined by it myself. I don't want you trying to buck the system, and I don't want to have to give direct discipline either. Just use your common sense, and if you have any doubts, ask me! It's not hard!

[riariadne]

@Naddy: You're completely missing the point here once again. As for Percy, I assume that being a former military person he has a serious side somewhere. You also conveniently ignored my post about how you just used Conrad in a completely out-of-character way.

Do you get some sort of enjoyment out of arguing with me and Phoenix or something?

Once again, well said snowy. And even if it was a democracy, you'd be outvoted Naddy.

Edited May 27, 2010 by Lightning

[Snike]

As for the RP, Snike seems to have something planned, so I'm waiting for that.

I do. Quick question: Was Kamilla KO'ed due to the smoke, or due to blood loss? You didn't mention how serious the wound was.

[Phoenix]

To prelude the quotes I'm not actually mad at Nady, I'm just a tad agitated right now, because a part of me knew this was going to happen in some way shape or form. As soon as anyone take initiative, she does whatever she can to instigate Murphy's law. Subplots in this story have become an utter waste of time. On the flipside, I'd rather not just sit around waiting to go to the next town. I'd rather resolve the issue than having debates with her about it.

Heh, "not against you" my foot :/

@ Iso, Irina, and Viveka (Character management)

"I'm staying in character by not posting" is no different from saying "she has no character and therefore has nothing to post." If all she were to do was bend "down to pick something up off of the ground, and stared at it for a moment before chucking it away." Then frankly she's as detailed as Ian. Saying what you've said reminds me of spriting and shading, just because the original FE mugs lacks it, doesn't mean you can't add shading yourself. "It's in character" is a poor shoddy excuse, as not all actions made by a character need to be "extravagant."

Isotov for example seldom does anything "extravagant." Mostly confining himself to mild banter with Katie, or an odd comment here and there, and when you do need something important done, it's through another character....

So you actually believe I should drown the thread in pointless posts about a girl petting her wyvern? We're on the road for God's sake. What could she possibly do that's worth posting? Building supports doesn't work unless someone's actually online, and in her normal environment, Irina would be talking with people all the time if not training. We're constantly moving, running, arguing, or busy. Building Irina's character has to wait until we're better established.

Your interpretation of Irina is clearly based on impatience(Chapter 6???) rather than observance so I'll dismiss it from here on.

As for Iso ... I've blown enough sh*t up for five chapters, thank you very much.

@ Damian's optional surrender

What you expect is what you expected and may not necessary be true, Damian has implied in the past that he didn't want Helios asking his opinion for every action they made. So everyone using him as a leader figure is starting to get annoying, you admit yourself that Isotov could have said it, then why didn't you? Not in character? Then don't say it <_<

As Bal said, you only used him to further your own goals, which was to maintain a peacful relation with the Elsyimmian army. That's your agenda and not one I have to follow. It wasn't my choice to make Conrad/Viveka enemies, it was yours, and if you can't handle it, then you might as well kill the character and create a new one.

Listen carefully here, because this is important. Conrad and Viveka ARE NOT ENEMIES. If you would have just left the damn scene alone, Lightning and I could have resolved the entire issue by the end of the chapter.

Now I just want someone to end this nightmare so we can get on to something more interesting.

As for Damian and Iso. Iso would have been in character, but it wouldn't have had the same effect. Damian saying it guaranteed that the army wouldn't attack the group. The plausibility of them surviving a frontal assault was absolute 0, and you know that. Their chances of winning are still absolute 0 unless someone god mods and kills the rest of them, which I'm kind of hoping they'll do at this point because I'm just sick of this.

As for survival rate, that's your issue, not mine. If you're worried that things are becoming unrealistic with the survival rate, Maim Iso, behead Irina, it's by no means, my fault you're surviving. And by complaining about being realistic.

Border Town:

-Using fire magic in a wooden inn, and it catching fire is not realistic?

-Guards reacting to a fire is not realistic?

-Guards should trust a random mercenary that comes out of nowhere to offer her services?

Istample

-Not my problem, I just caused suspicion, and most of the chaos there was created by others who I sparked off, or had their own ideas.

-You were the initiator of this conflict, so you're hardly in a position to complain.

Heading to the caves

-Right, cause the group outrunning an entire troop of soldiers sent to capture them is reasonable.

-What's wrong with sending Pegasi? It's no different from a police chopper, all the more reason to send one if the enemy (group) can become airborne as well.

Selizara

-I specifically said, there better be something in the caves, I was assured there was "something" down there, and this "something" was ignored completely. The only thing that happened was a minor scuffle with soldiers. Due to this I'm tempted to not take any of Rein's assurances seriously.

-I gave more then fair enough warning about intending to put enemies in the Fort, we even had a discussion over PM, and you gave in.

Overall, it sounds to me like you're just chucking a hissy fit because you didn't get what you want, I find it humorous how you bring out realism now, when I've been pointing out factors which seem improbable for awhile now, your responses was what? "We'll handle things as they happen?" well it's happened now, go ahead and solve the problem. I might be coming off as extremely whiny when I complain about events that haven't even occur ed, but that's just to prevent people from going down that path (Hasn't worked) and giving fair warning that I don't approve of where the plot is directed.

How do we outrun them.... err I don't know, maybe we can make some random caves appear, and it's connected to the throne room of Ilyphina? That's it! There's caves in the forest connected to the throne room that no one knows about, and we'll call these caves the Cobalt Caves.

This mess, is the result of you and Chase trying to pursue a goal which seems improbable, and not explaining yourselves when asked. I admit you don't "have" to answer my queries, and I'm not offended by that in the slightest, however if you want to keep everything hush hush, then expect your plans to be interrupted in some shape of form.

It was only a few pages ago, I was being told that Elysimma sending a huge force out was unrealistic, after all they're just hunting a band of bandits, and now they come with a few legions of cavalry?

They asked to speak to Chase instead of the groups leader? What would be wrong with asking the whole group to come out and surrender unarmed? Again you two are placing too much focus on Chase's crimes, which may be false <_< Right, he's a wanted criminal Percy would recognize on sight, but the crimes he commited was just Chase making stuff up.

I have solved the problem actually, don't worry about that.

Not everything you see as a realistic response IS a realistic response, at least not for certain people. There's nothing unrealistic about her calling Chase out first. Her priority is to take the whole group, but she wants to make damn sure that nothing happens to Chase, because Chase is more important to Jackson specifically ... you know ... Jackson? Her boss? The one that just promoted her? The promotion she's trying to earn?

Viveka demanded to see Chase because she immediately assumed(and I posted this) that Chase was in charge.

If she knew Damian was in charge, she would have asked both of them to come out, and would have immediately hogtied him, and then seen to negotiating the terms of the group's surrender. She couldn't have known that Damian was in charge.

@ Phoenix's sinister plot advancement

A: This is your problem, and not one caused by deviating from going to the capitol, no one "forced" you to make Irina like that, and this is the first time anyone has commented on Irina's lack of importance, citing this as a reason is ridiculous, and essentially you have no one to blame except for yourself.

B: Even they can't survive it, kill Irina, Mark, Kelas, the list goes on, there's nothing preventing you from killing off your own characters or injuring them somehow, if you don't like god-modding, don't do it. No one if "forcing you" to god-mod out of these situations. And the party is big enough now, no reason why a few characters can't be killed off. Nady's attempt to put garbage on your head is legitimate, Nady doesn't want everyone going to the capitol to be pardoned for crimes they did commit.

C: That is speculation, and may not necessarily be true, assuming it's information you've managed to extract from Snowy, it doesn't really change anything, if it was so important, there was nothing stopping the plot from starting in Elysimma, ignoring the present just because there's something you want to do in the future is your own agenda, and not one I have to comply with.

The problem is that you only care about your own sense of entertainment. You put us in situations that force us to choose between going out of character to save ourselves, or just straight up getting flayed.

Do you care about anything else?

@ Anarchy (Nady)

Again, your own agenda, I have no reason for wanting to go to the capitol, and it'd be just as easy to make Conrad have an interest in the group, and betray Elysimma, not in character? Not my problem. If you want to talk about realism, how about not going to a kingdoms main arm with just over a dozen troops? Heading to the capitol is based on the grounds that Conrad/Harold with pardon the crimes we have commited, you and Chase act as if this is certain to happen, and it most likely will, however that's a plot device, and something the characters aren't completely aware of. You were talking about separating personal ideas and character actions not too long ago, and then this :/

Don't love leggings, you keep your fetishes to yourself thanks. I've screwed what up? Your little plan? Again, that's your problem, I have no obligation to not mess things up. You're the ones? I was under the impression I was making Snowy/Cynthia hold the bag? Or are you also managing this now? Planning is fine, but you don't have to be such a sore loser when they don't turn out the way you want them to, if it helps, you've ruined my plans three times since I created Kamilla.

"F*ck demon the King?" Then let's get out of Elysimma, who cares about the demon king, Your point is to do your little Shanice event, not to clear your names, I'm not alone when I say that a pardon seems unlikely. And I've asked for long enough, how about sharing the reasons behind being forgiven for our crimes? Cause at current, it seem impossible.

"Making relevant party member?" Explain?

I too said a pardon was unlikely.

So far, Snowy and Cynthia have no problem with what I've been setting up. After all, somebody has to do something while you dig graves for everybody. I think the problem is that your only interest is f*cking things up which you've admitted several times throughout the story. You may not be obligated to not be a sabotaging madwoman, but you're taking this sh*t too far. What's the point of doing this rp if I have to focus exclusively on negotiating with you for safe passage?

@ Party member relevance

I was suggesting that maybe you'd be less inclined to screw the party over if you had a character that was more important than Kamilla ... that's about it -_-

@ Bal's specific comments

Phoenix: I'm actually quite good at planning, when I'm the only one writing the story, if there's a hiccup in the process then I throw a tantrum and start blaming all my problems on someone else.

This is the first Fire attack I've caused since Darien, the inn, was merely a reaction to your action. Tar does not explode :/ Or is this your attempt to throw stuff at me which isn't plausible?

You can twist my words all day. That's not going to make you more fun to rp with.

Your only goal seems to be to get us into more trouble to entertain yourself.

My long term goal was to help unify the group through common enemies and make support building easier.

@ Conrad Jackson, Viveka, and the Bolivian guys

Again this is your problem, it wasn't my choice to hole up in the fort, and it wasn't my choice to send that many troops in.

The biggest crime on the list is assault? I'm pretty sure we checked that box when we attacked Percy and his wyverns. If that didn't, killing Celeste is going beyond assault. But of course, Viveka finds it in her heart to disregard we've killed her acquaintances/friends/lesbian lovers, and is calmly sipping tea. So therefore, no, I don't believe we can get cleared of a charge like that, hence the reason I'm against pardoning the groups crimes.

You keep saying it's my problem like it's actually true. It's not. This is OUR story, not mine, not yours, OURS. ALL OF OURS. Yes even Snike though his character seems to drop off the face of the earth from time to time

Yes I do go beyond plausibility from time to time, but most of the time, that's just to counter what you're doing. The times when I've just been too liberal in my interpretation of reality, you could easily remind me that I'm doing something weird, and I can fix it in a simple edit.

If your only goal is to take a bad situation and make it worse just to get a good laugh, then why not just be the ONLY antagonist and have all your characters be enemies? That'd be easier than controlling a sighing waitress with no reason for existing other than to take cheap shots at Iso.

I don't understand why you antagonize yourself. We should all be working together. Again ... we SHOULD ALL BE WORKING TOGETHER ... EVEN with individual character subplots, but some people want to be left in the dark about future plans, while others want to take it as it comes, then there's you and your inexplicable way of turning lead into TNT(figuratively speaking). It's not you screwing up my plans every single time without fail that bugs the tar out of me, Nady. It's the fact that you don't even want to consider helping us in any way. You only seem to want to cause a fire, and then laugh about it in feedback. You're actually pretty good at cementing canon, and you pay close enough attention to detail to catch flaws, but instead of helping us with our lack thereof(by actually talking with us about it), you use it to hurt our subplots. How is that even fun? I'm not that sadistic so I wouldn't know -_-

Why can't we just work together? Stop waiting for people to post the wrong thing and then taking it too far. Sh*t! We can HELP YOU make a situation worse if the group has gone too long without incident, but when you do it yourself you just become antagonistic. Just answer that one question, F*CK EVERYTHING ELSE I'VE SAID. Just answer me this "Why can't we work together?" The characters in the rp have to work together ... at some point ... why can't we?

*whew* ANything else has to do pm -_-

[Kanami]

@Lightning, read my posts again.

@Snike: Err both? XD Hadn't thought that far, it's just inhaling smoke coupled with fatigue, I hadn't thought of how serious the wound was, but you can make that up if you want, haven't treated it so infection is possible.

(Mind you, this injury was inflicted without my permission)

@Snowy, working on a post now, give me a sec, just needed to answer Snike so the RP could move

[Inactive Account]

This is all lovely but can someone please post something in the actual RP? I would, but my characters are kind of stuck at present.

[Kanami]

If it's clear I've either missed or haven't responded to any question you have asked, PM me. I do not ignore any people willingly for any reason.

As for my definition, it is one thing to have two characters interact throughout the RP, or to be forced into something easily ignored (such as riding a horse). However, holding a knife to someone's throat, or threatening to set fire to a forest in which everyone is at the moment is a different matter entirely. If the roleplayer feels it can be handled on their own, then fine, I won't intervene so long as it doesn't threaten another character directly. However, if they do not want their character to engage in something that is clearly life-altering/ending or anything of the kind, I will either intervene, or I will give permission for someone else to godmod within reason.

I don't lay down rules or interact as a matter of the letter of the law. I'm not seeking to limit you, or anyone else in any way I don't have to. However, what you did was out of line and at LEAST should have been run by me via PM before doing it (I certainly don't recall giving you permission to set an entire forest on fire, doubly so while the party was actually IN it!).

I would rather not have to define myself by any amount either. This is not a democracy. Not within this RP at least. It's a despotism. It doesn't matter how much I define the law, I am never confined by it myself. I don't want you trying to buck the system, and I don't want to have to give direct discipline either. Just use your common sense, and if you have any doubts, ask me! It's not hard!

Very well, then I oppose being arrested by Elysimman officals as it is certainly a life altering event which I am not willing to go through with.

Firstly, I have no problems with you intervening, considering the identity of the group I used, it's likely to have idiots like... I forget their name, but the idiots who set the tar on fire. And even had my group been highly trained assassins which followed strict training and a code of practice, I wouldn't have minded.

I specifically asked where everyone was, Phoenix seem to have forced everyone (with the exception of Lacuna and Kamilla) out the front gates to surrender themselves to Viveka. Another point I'm not willing to go with (why should we surrender now when we've resisted surrendering for so long? You people had a reason right? No? Why am I not surprised?)

Esphyr along with anyone else is most likely gathered around Damian, and Katie was pulled away by Isotov Irina who are somehow outside. So who you mean by 'party' is unclear to me. And if Lacuna intended for Kelas/Arrin to get captured, then having a soldier drag them out wasn't hard for her to do. As for Kamilla, I assume you won't mind me throwing her in a burning forest since she's my character?

Anyway, going back to the main issue, I tried to set the forest on fire, and you intervened, with that I have no issues (though I had to add a bit to validate the scale of your explosion) and am actually glad you did prevent it. Since it wasn't essential to what I was trying to do anyway.

As for firing at Phoenix's soldiers, I cite my bandit example from earlier, and do not believe player controlled NPC's should be immune from attacks, especially if they're one time generics. The only reason I attacked the group was because Lacuna attacked them, and if I'm getting grilled for shooting at the group, Phoenix is just as much to blame due to sending in cavalry to trample over the group.

[Phoenix]

If you have a problem with being captured, that's fine, in fact, at this point, I'm perfectly fine with Damian singlehandedly destroying them all. Anything to be done with this subplot.

The problem is that you randomly attacking my npcs with yours pits us against each other in every way, which wasn't my intention. We should have discussed the shadowy figures in pm FIRST.

@ Lacuna

I'll post something in the rp later ... after I pick up the pieces -_-

Edited May 27, 2010 by Phoenix