13th Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 OK, what in heck? Who did I miss, since I put Core on twice? First Core is supposed to be Rein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percivalé Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 I'm sorry, I'm probably going to be a bit useless this day phase due to family issues (read: my mom keeps cutting off my internet access and I have no coffeehouse internet until tomorrow) I promise I'm not doing this on purpose /: also I keep sleeping in because depression/illness but I should be good for participation pretty soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 It just hasn't looked as much like you're helping as much as you could be. But I don't see much point in voting you. You don't seem to have been dangerous, its just the fact I think you're more scummy than the others. My reasons for voting Sho is that I have felt he is the scummiest of all of us at the moment. He just doesn't give me towntells here. Domu's reasons made a little sense, and I thought they made sense. Now looking back, only Kay, Rapier, Core, and JB have been showing be very positive towntells. But no one is showing scummy enough for me to vote them #Unvote Sho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percivalé Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 So did 13th actually claim persuader, then fool, then persuader again? I have no idea what he's trying to do anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percivalé Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 ##Unvote ugh brain why aren't you working Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 13th does sound like a demotivated person, he didn't even think much about my theory before voting on Sho... So yeah, I'm agaisnt voting him too. Of course not, I just pointed it out because he was the only one who tried to lynch Nightmare after the Persuader made Rein vote him. That's a crazy theory and I don't have any base yet, but I don't think Sho's stupid enough to believe that the Persuader knows something about Nightmare/he wants to lynch Nightmare to see what kind of Persuader we have here. His action looked like a move trying to put through our throat that we had to lynch Nighty, something -I, at least- found a bit too much FORCED. Now please don't counter me with "Sho wouldn't be stupid enough to be caught like that", because whether he's infact "that stupid" or not, only the facts will tell. Also, Shinori: Tell us why you think that 13th is the Persuader, why I'm suspicious to your eyes, why Sho's suspicious in your eyes, and why you think the 13th is Town... Because everyone could look at the last pages and just quote some of the thoughts without further exploring and thinking. sigh. I suppose I havent made myself clear enough. Persuator knows more than us IF he is mafia. Because persuating a vote on someone makes it rather sure that one is not lynched I felt like lynching the target as it might be scumbuddy the persuator tries to protect. I know its a far shot but this is D1 so there is only far shots. also all of this is pointless now because 13th claimed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percivalé Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 13th seemed like a townie freaking out to me until he 'admitted lying' I honestly have no idea what he was trying to pull there. Claiming after two votes is weird but okay, but what he did afterwards was not and I don't understand his motives behind that at all /: I don't quite understand persuader being a town role, though. It seems much more helpful for the mafia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Well i said i think show is town first off. But ill go into reasonings. I think 13th is persuader because i stated a while ago i didn't believe his fool claim. I wasnt too sure about his persuader claim either however. But as far as ive seen no counter claim has yet to be made. Which makes me think there isnt another persuader because they most likely would have CCed right away in an order to get the lie out in the open. Since that didn't happen and since i don't believe the fool claim (Unless however he is a fool/persuader) I believe he is most defintely a persuader and most likely town. As for sho being town i think the way hes been acting doesnt show mafia behavior, also in most of the recent games he has been town quite alot if you want to go by that but you cant really. However i bring this up because he is acting generally the same way as he did in previous games, he is sho afterall and i don't think he seems to change that much from game to game. As for you rapier i think you are the scummiest simply because from my stand point and my point of view you seem to be not posting anything except for alot of posts involving sho. And 13th but besides that your posts dont seem to hold anything new at all, they seem to be stuff that's been stated or obvious but i guess that's what alot of posts will be.However you just seem garunteed they are mafia or you just defintely want one of them lynched. From what i have seen you have stated any real opinions against other players. This is just my own personal thinking from what i've read though. And the reasoning isnt exactly perfect either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iris Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 great reason to be inactive Eclipse Okay, now I'm getting a headache. Wow, you guys post a lot. Eclipse, ilu and your summaries. So, 13th. Did I read that right? You claimed persuader, then fool, then persuader? Not the best defense, but I'll deal. In fact, this is so ludicrous, but I have no idea, at the moment. Not voting you for now. You seem more calm than before. I don't quite understand persuader being a town role, though. It seems much more helpful for the mafia Uh, FE4 mafia had a town-persuader, but don't read it, that game sucked. Now looking back, only Kay, Rapier, Core, and JB have been showing be very positive towntells. Explain, please - Core's 13th on your scummy list, and now you say he plays like a townie? Actually, I want you to explain most of your list - well, mostly the bottom. ———————————————————————————— I think I'm looking at 13th when I say this, but when I do post the Votals, I've also posted relevant thoughts 80% of the time. I'll stop if you want, though. VOTALS [3] 13th: Blitz, Blitz, Bizz, JB, Sho, Bizz, Bizz, Core, Domu, JB, JB, Domu, Strawman, Strawman, Bizz [ Sho, Core, JB] [1] Nightmare: Blitz, Rein (forced), Blitz [Rein] [1] Sho: JB, JB, 13th, Domu, 13th [Domu] [1] Blitz: Core, 13th, Nightmare, Domu, Core, Domu, 13th [Nightmare] [0] Domu: Strawman, Kay, Kay, Eclipse, Eclipse, Strawman [0] Eclipse: Joshy, Rein, Blitz, Kay, Blitz , Domu, Kay, Domu, Rein, JB [0] Rein: 13th, 13th [0] JB: Sho, Sho [0] Core: Domu, Domu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Well i said i think show is town first off. But ill go into reasonings. I think 13th is persuader because i stated a while ago i didn't believe his fool claim. I wasnt too sure about his persuader claim either however. But as far as ive seen no counter claim has yet to be made. Which makes me think there isnt another persuader because they most likely would have CCed right away in an order to get the lie out in the open. Since that didn't happen and since i don't believe the fool claim (Unless however he is a fool/persuader) I believe he is most defintely a persuader and most likely town. This makes sense, oddly enough. And like you said. I may be Fool/Persuader (I'm not). It still isn''t 100%, and it doesn't ensure me being Town, but it is a start. As for sho being town i think the way hes been acting doesnt show mafia behavior, also in most of the recent games he has been town quite alot if you want to go by that but you cant really. However i bring this up because he is acting generally the same way as he did in previous games, he is sho afterall and i don't think he seems to change that much from game to game. He doesn't change much in how he plays, I will say that. He's illogical in a logical way. As for you rapier i think you are the scummiest simply because from my stand point and my point of view you seem to be not posting anything except for alot of posts involving sho. And 13th but besides that your posts dont seem to hold anything new at all, they seem to be stuff that's been stated or obvious but i guess that's what alot of posts will be.However you just seem garunteed they are mafia or you just defintely want one of them lynched. From what i have seen you have stated any real opinions against other players. This is just my own personal thinking from what i've read though. And the reasoning isnt exactly perfect either. I disagree with Rapier=Scum though. He seems to make posts that have decent information, and nothing is giving me scumtells. I'm not getting towntells either, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percivalé Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Uh, FE4 mafia had a town-persuader, but don't read it, that game sucked. Still confused as to why, though, but I suppose the usefulness could go either way. I keep reading back, but... I still can't get many reads. /: 13th's overreaction doesn't quite seem like mafia anymore, and Rapier's giving me slight mafia vibes for no real reason. Core, too, only because he seems to be keeping under the radar (not like I can talk I suppose, but I've been a little busy with irl things) Nightmare is 50/50 ("I don't know what to say until I have something to say" is a tricky statement) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 You ninja. Okay, now I'm getting a headache. Wow, you guys post a lot. Eclipse, ilu and your summaries. So, 13th. Did I read that right? You claimed persuader, then fool, then persuader? Not the best defense, but I'll deal. In fact, this is so ludicrous, but I have no idea, at the moment. Not voting you for now. You seem more calm than before. Yes. You did. But I made the fool claim in hysterical action. Both Persuader claims were in a state of more calm. I basically said the fool claim was a last ditch effort and I regretted it instantly. Uh, FE4 mafia had a town-persuader, but don't read it, that game sucked. It did. But we all learned from it Explain, please - Core's 13th on your scummy list, and now you say he plays like a townie? Actually, I want you to explain most of your list - well, mostly the bottom. The bottom? I was looking back on it, and Core is the only one who I can't get ANY decent reads, but my most recent read was town. Sho is still scumtelling in my opinion. ———————————————————————————— I think I'm looking at 13th when I say this, but when I do post the Votals, I've also posted relevant thoughts 80% of the time. I'll stop if you want, though. VOTALS [3] 13th: Blitz, Blitz, Bizz, JB, Sho, Bizz, Bizz, Core, Domu, JB, JB, Domu, Strawman, Strawman, Bizz [ Sho, Core, JB] [1] Nightmare: Blitz, Rein (forced), Blitz [Rein] [1] Sho: JB, JB, 13th, Domu, 13th [Domu] [1] Blitz: Core, 13th, Nightmare, Domu, Core, Domu, 13th [Nightmare] [0] Domu: Strawman, Kay, Kay, Eclipse, Eclipse, Strawman [0] Eclipse: Joshy, Rein, Blitz, Kay, Blitz , Domu, Kay, Domu, Rein, JB [0] Rein: 13th, 13th [0] JB: Sho, Sho [0] Core: Domu, Domu The votals help. Thanks. Now looking back, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Gah! Wrong button! OK, finishing statement here, Looking back, Nightmare is being very quiet. Like Bizz says. Its 50/50. But I'm leaning Mafia on him, and am starting to appreciate the forced vote I had Rein make. ##Vote Nightmare I still want to see some info on why you think on your list you made. Explain the list, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percivalé Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Explain the list, please. Being a little hypocrite, eh? I notice I was pretty high on your mafia suspects, huh? Never got an explanation why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percivalé Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Oh, that was Kay's list never mind, I should be asking Kay that question~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 The list I want explained is for Nightmare to explain his list that Kay had him make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percivalé Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 I'd make a list on what I think about the other players, but it wouldn't make very much sense. Not until I have more to work off of, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 You're high on on my list because I don't have many towntells on you, nor do I get scumtells. The list went out of date quickly. Updating it, with the correct names. Kay JB Eclipse Core Shinori (Me) Blitz Rapier Iris Strawman Bizz Rein Sho Nightmare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percivalé Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 It's hard to get D1 vibes on me because I'm generally useless D1. :3 Don't know about the whole Nightmare thing, though. ##Vote: Core because he makes me generally uneasy. My stomach hurts, and I need to lie down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliriyum Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 ...I've heard this story before... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapier Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 sigh. I suppose I havent made myself clear enough. Persuator knows more than us IF he is mafia. Because persuating a vote on someone makes it rather sure that one is not lynched I felt like lynching the target as it might be scumbuddy the persuator tries to protect. I know its a far shot but this is D1 so there is only far shots. also all of this is pointless now because 13th claimed That's broken. Persuating a vote on someone makes it rather sure that one is not lynched only for a brief time, because no matter if this person has the "the persuator voted me" argument, if he/she screws up, we're going to bite his leg. And hey, we don't know if 13th is really Mafia or not. I'm itching to vote on him, Town or not, to see what the hell is his role and answer to our questions. 13th, damn it, tell me if you're the persuator or not after all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 I am not the Persuator. I am the Persuader. Anything else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapier Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Mm... My theory has been broken in many shards again. But Sho's win/win gambit bothers me, I won't take my vote from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 I don't like this Nightmare wagon at all. It seems to me people are being extremely opportunistic since I was forked over a vote that I would never have made in the first place, and I think people are using this as an excuse to get rid of someone. Additionally, I am still not convinced that 13th is town, either. His breakdown and not wanting to win attitude earlier, then claiming fool when he was close to getting lynched, strikes me as scummy as fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percivalé Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 13th, why did you claim fool again? Did you ever explain why you claimed fool for no reason? I'm sorry, I had to get this in here <____< ...I've heard this story before... That only made me more uneasy /: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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