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Shining Force 2 Mafia: Game Over


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This mess is giving me a lot of associative reads.

Okay, if you don't know the source content, that's fine. I do, however, and there is a very clear distinction between who's good and who's evil on Shining Force II. It would be incredibly stupid for Elieson to make one of the good guys a Mafia member. Kiwi would definitely be aligned with the Shining Force. I don't blame you for suspecting BBM but he's cleared in my eyes.

Likewise, there's a very clear distinction between the good and evil people in the mafia games I write, which is why Serah Farron was a villain in my game (put sarcasm tags here). We don't know what Elieson had in mind when he wrote the flavor for this game; for all I know, he threw canon out the window. I don't take "BBM can't be the announcer" as a good reason to lynch BBM. On the same token, I think "BBM's character is good, so he must be town" is a bad reason to believe he's town. Discussion's great and all, but horrible logic doesn't help anyone (and there is far too much of it in this game).

Bizz, when I say "I'll address this in postgame", that means you're not getting an explanation until postgame ('cause I'm pretty sure Elieson doesn't want me crapping up his thread once I'm dead). I trust you know what I mean.

Okay. Rant over.

I don't know what to think of Lucina, I think it's scummy that she claimed and went AWOL without doing anything else but what can we really do?

Have her shoot someone scummy. Or hostile.

I agree that most of Proto's contribution has been role and flavour spec, but I can't see why he as mafia would want to clear a townie on that. Maybe if I was about to get lynched, he might do it for townie points, but at that point the lynch was moving away from me anyways. What Proto is doing is dumb, and he needs to start contributing in a better way, but I can't see scum intent in what he's doing right now.

I'll list the various scum intents off the top of my head (this list assumes that Proto is scum):

1. By "clearing" you based on flavor, he'll be able to go "See, I told you so!" if you flip town.

2. Posting in such a manner doesn't associate him with anyone's views; rather, it's based on flavor, so if he dies, he won't give any associative reads out.

3. He'll have a presence in the thread, so people can't accuse him of lurking.

4. It distracts the rest of the game from reading content from people.

I wouldn't mind lynching Proto later, if he continues to dwell in Flavorland. Right now, I'd much rather lynch Mancer because of that role PM nonsense.

(also damn the lot of you for ninjaing me)

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On a completely unrelated note, SF is loading painfully slowly. I will miss stuff if you post it within five or so minutes of me posting, unless I happen to hit Preview. You have been warned.

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Blitz, why did you prioritize bringing up role speculation over scumhunting and dropping a vote when you had a short time window to post earlier?

it seems my class has been cancelled and thus I can come back here

to answer Prim's question, I just didn't want to be voteless at the end of the phase

as for the role spec over scum hunt, I realized none of you had seen that in the OP of D1 and because of that I think BBM is way less likely to be scum than a lot of others and thus wanted to prevent a mislynch

as for the night, we aren't just waiting for mafia to kill someone, we have night talk and get to talk about Mancer's flip and on top of that we can use our auxiliary kill as a lynch

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The Force gathered around MancerNecro, positive that he was not right in the head.

He's wishy washy! She's lying about her role! Insert some other excuse to get attention off of me here!

But it wasn't working. No one could quite figure out what the old coot was saying. Even his weird yellow eyes glowed red when the Force surrounded him with their nooses and tied him to the rock that was pushed over Mt. Volcano's edge and into the abyss.

MancerNecro has been Lynched. He was:

sf2_book_tyrin.jpg

Dear MancerNecro, you are Tyrin.

You are by far the greatest master of the elemental arts. You are an old, ugly mage, but well qualified and skilled, despite your poor survival abilities. You have great magical prowess, and have the ability to promote using the Secret Book to one of two classes.

During the night, you may respond to your RolePM with "Night X: Magic. Freeze. Level 4. [uSER]." [uSER] will be frozen in place and will not be able to perform their night action during the night*.

In short, you are the Roleblocker*.

You are allied with the Other Guys. You win when all threats to you and your fellow Other Guys have been eliminated.

Talk to your team here.

Night Phase 1 begins now, and ends in 48 hours, 2/13/13 at 2300 GMT-5 (11PM CST, 12AM on 12/14 EST, etc etc etc).

Talking may resume.

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Good job Marth. Thanks to all of the D1 messiness, I have several people I don't want lynched. All that focus on flavor makes me wary of people that were using it in place of scumhunting D1 (I WONDER WHO THIS COULD BE?)

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honestly if this is multiball then marf just might be scumteam b rolecop or something

xinnidy is mancer's scumbuddy btw

i think everyone should shut up during nighttalk until blitz, kay, rein and loocy post reads, as to not give them more catch-up

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Going to ignore the no talking policy for a sec to ask a question.

multiball imho

Forgive me for being dumb but what's multiball? Is it multiple mafia factions or something else entirely?

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multiple mafia factions

yeah

that faction name looks like it was ripped straight from a smogon game, so i'm thinking it could be 15:3:3, or something else and shinori is just in a 3-man scumteam and BSing us (but he's been pretty town so eh)

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so, guys wanna start up conversations?

like is it likely for there to be 2 groups (only because of the BBM thing)

otherwise, I actually think there isn't any dual mafia and BBM is more likely to be cleared (because Mancer flipped scum)

Not sure who I want lynched. It's been enough of a challenge just getting those above observations out and some of them (like Snike's) conflict with claimed roles and such.

Kind of want Lucina out now tbh.

Sho is being perpetually useless and I wouldn't mind him being removed from the "alive" list either I guess.

Gut on BBM too but I don't have much of a case beyond that. Same with Leder

Ugh my vote is going to waste and I don't have much to do about it.

this post seemed completely like useless bickering and hypocrisy considering Neko had been worthless himself at that point.

that was pretty much my read at the time, until Mancer pulled that shit

also, we should really move and decide a kill target (unitedly) for Lucina (or make her idle, but I would prefer a kill)

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