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Not at all. Except people know who Leif is. So people were planning on rescuing him regardless. And IIRC, chapter 6 is where someone is surprised that Lief is already out because they were specifically looking for him. Lief gets rescued because of the events that were already happening. Just saying "he got rescued by strangers" is completely ignoring what was already happening. Here's an example of luck that works out that doesn't break disbelief. Lyndis asking Eliwood for help when Lungdren is petitioning other nobles to join in to defeat her. Eliwood helps her because he happens to like Lyndis, but it's double edged luck in the event that he actually cannot help her, but rather remain neutral with her Nils showing up wasn't the perfect moment. If Nils waiting until Eliwood's father is being sacrificed is what you'd consider perfect, I don't even know what to say here. Eliwood's father is clearly being used as part of the ritual. Hence Ninian apologizing for what she did to Elbert. So no. It's not just because "the plot needed it." He was supposed to be the sacrifice. But he let Ninian go, and so they had to find her again. But Eliwood and company dragged Ninian BACK to Dread Isle and made it easier for Nergal. If anything, this is an example of bad luck, because they unwittingly did what the villain wanted without him having to devote any resources to getting her back. Ike's luck is far worse. Like... Even Corrin has less luck than Ike, and people always moan and groan about him. And the thing is, it wouldn't be so bad if Ike was Eirika levels of nice or had nobility or something, but he has nothing, and people just take it or find him remarkable because... They just do. And the thing is here, is that this is what I'm talking about when I see dissonance in Ike. It's fine if you like him, but for me, I find him pretty lousy because of things like this. It's like Hector without the status or the knowledge to calm down on occasion. The difference is that none of those characters have to survive, and PoR even does a pretty decent job with this having various conversations and some endings alter based on who is dead or alive. The characters that die are dead, and the game doesn't magically make them revive because you lost. Sure you could argue casual mode, but realistically, you don't have to push reset every time someone dies.

I forgot to ask you one thing: what OS version do you have on your Mac? I should have asked about that before I tried much else.

It's not that. I will check when I have time. The settings for por worked for Rd for me.

I'd imagine that he'd constantly be on the move and having his kids traveling with him. I think he'd be surprisingly lax and let his kids do whatever as long as they don't die or cause too much mischief. He seems like he'd be good at supporting them, but not very active with them. The kids would probably be really Independent.

But most of those aren't even in the same. Leif is lucky, but not for the way you're saying it. The people were going to rescue the children that were being captured. Leif just so happens to be one of them. And considering that someone was already planning on rescuing Leif anyways, this isn't really luck at all. FE6, as stated, Roy petitions ahead of time about this. FE7. Nils showing up makes sense. Both his sister and his father figure are there. There's no reason for him not to show up. Elbert too is obvious for why he was kept alive. His quintessence. And part of the ritual for opening the dragons gate. We literally see this at the Dragon's Gate. Jaffar being sent away could be considered luck, especially since Ephidel blabbed about Bern, but considering that they were going to call a dragon to kill the lords, this isn't that bad. Nils showing up is the only lucky thing, and considering that he was on the originsl ship there, him following the lords isn't really luck. Them "just happening" to wind up going to the next stone location... Was their next location. So that's not luck at all. L'Rachel says as such. And only needing 1 stone actually isn't that bad either. It makes sense considering that each kingdom had 1 stone. It wouldn't make sense for only 1 kingdom to have a stone and be able to hold that over everyone else. None of these even come close to characters that shrug off what Ike says and accept it, or Ike's super luck. That's what I'm saying.

Which honestly means that the characters in Tellius would be astoundingly one dimensional in that regard. I'm not even arguing that everything bad should happen to Ike, as there are runs of bad luck such as Chapter 11 where Ranulf gets revealed, and things go down south. The problem is that his good luck is to the point that it overlaps any real sort of conflict. IE, it doesn't matter what Ike does or doesn't do, it still works out. It's funny you mention Reyson, as he seems to be the best written character in Tellius-- or PoR at least. It might be why this story actually I don't... Find that good to be honest because of all of this. And the fact that the game treats Ike like he's so unique when his opinion is damn near identical to... Every character that isn't a villain in the game, or a laguz initially. The best thing Ike did over the course of the game is not attack the Black Knight. Like you have tacticians and strategist knowing "Ike always charges forward" in dialogue, yet no general / strategist is able to actually kill him despite the fact that people know what he does. It's even slightly lampshaded in the rock chapter. I don't know, I just felt that PoR was a bit bad in the storyline department, and even worse than other ones in the regard that luck is too huge of a factor in the game.

I'd actually argue that it was Olivia if that was the case. She requires no actual supports, and the entire meeting could be similar to Sigurd's romantic interest.

I think bad Fire Emblem characters are the ones that just don't have anything to offer both gameplay or storywise. Even ones like Lyndis, a prime candidate for complaints, isn't too bad in my eyes.

There isn't. And needing Ike is a really weak reason. She's the empress of the most powerful nation in the known world. I find it especially hard to believe that she'd ever need any specific group. Having Ike's group do things doesn't really work as a guise any better than having her right hand man do work. I get that it's the point to keep Ike and co. Important, but that's largely the problem. The game never actually treats Ike like a commoner, and the game wants to pretend like he is, and the only reason he can get things done is because of his own competence, when the reality is that it's just the writer going way out of their way to make things work. Serenes Forest Massacre doesn't excuse Ike talking to Sanaki like that. It doesn't excuse anyone talking to anyone like that. It wasn't even her fault.

I'd say that's Elphin pushing Roy to have the confidence to wield the sword more than anything else. It's no different than Mani Katti's behavior to Lyndis in FE7 in that regard. That doesn't mean that Roy is the only one that can use it ever. It just says that the SoS/BB found Roy worthy of using it so it chose him. A large deal isn't made out of it. Roy is dismissive, but Elphin is not-- which just shows the contrasts between the two characters. One believes in fate / destiny and the other does not. Also if that's the case, then Ike also has this problem as well with Ragnell. As there's no reason it should be PRF, and is made even worse that its sister blade Alondite is just able to be used by anyone. No. Swords like Falchion or Corrin's Yato are far more special than the SoS / BB. There's nothing definitive about Roy's being destined either. The sword chose Roy, there's no reason to believe that he was the only one that could have used it. Since Roy touched it first and it reacted positively to him, there isn't any reason to pass it to everyone else in the army.

I would make a new post, and then have a link to the old topic so people can have some reference to what you're talking about.

- Ike sucks as a character. - I like using archers. - Conquest has the best story of Fates. - I like the avatar system. - Children are a good mechanic even if they "hurt" the story.

I'd expect both to be honest, but if they only select one, I'd expect Female since the male got an amiibo and female didn't.

Not necessarily better or worse. But the tactician wasn't merely observing Eliwood. (S)he was Eliwood's tactician. That's a key player in Eliwood's army without actually needing to be the main character. Think about someone like Soren in PoR or RD. Soren definitely has a role, and is a support member, and I'd go so far as to say that he's a main character as well. However, it's clear that he is not the main character of the story. The game has Ike and Elincia be the most important characters over the course of the tale. Vaan isn't the same thing as Mark, or Soren because Vaan really has no role outside of "perspective," and in that regard he doesn't actually bring anything to the table that characters like Balthier or even Fran bring. Roy actually isn't really special tbh. FE7 is what brings him up to "special." Before then, he's merely doing his job as Eliwood's son and gets dragged further and further along. He's not like Alm, Chrom, Sigurd, Marth or even Corrin that get special "blood" swords so to speak, his weapon just so happens to be the blade that is the binding blade. It makes sense that he can use it, but it's not like it's destined for him specifically. Roy being a reasonable person rather than a fighter isn't a bad thing, and just because he wasn't wrong through logic and reasoning isn't nearly as bad as Corrin or Ike in that regard, because there IS largely no logic behind their actions outside of personal feelings. I would actually love a plot like that. @Etrurian emperor And this is also a valid point as well. It is a massive problem with Ike's character as well, and I'm sure the writers didn't even consider it.

I meant to respond for earlier but I couldn't because of life stuff. Anyways. Here's what I'm saying. It doesn't. The problem with your rebuttal here is that you're largely looking at this scene in a tunnel vision. The issue here is that this scene is a culmination of what's wrong with that game, and it never actually stops with Ike. Queue 2 chapters later, chapter 16, and Ike is once again pulling THIS nonsense again: SigrunAh, Master Ike! No! You mustn't behave so! You will cause such problems!IkeApostle...SanakiWhat? You! What are you doing? How dare you approach me unannounced! This is most inappropriate, and I will not--ElinciaWhat has happened, my lord Ike?IkeAll of it. I want to hear all of it...Now!SanakiWhat are you talking about?SigrunMaster Ike! One must not speak to the apostle in such a discourteous fashion! And what happens? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. So no, it's not just a warning that means something, it's not even a slap on the wrist, and it has no bearing on anything because Ike's behavior doesn't change, and I'd actually say at this point that it's worse than it was before. The consistency is only there in the "Ike immunity" syndrome that the game seems to dote on so much. This is exactly why Ike feels favored in this scene, because nothing ever comes of it. Ike doesn't learn from it, and Ike continues to act like a jackass. As for Ike missing punishment because his father died? That's not it; it's immediately deferred because "there aren't enough people." When realistically, this could have been handled as easily as having Ike do KP duty for the night or extra punishment training or something like that... It wouldn't have even needed to be much-- making the entire ordeal just pointless. Compare that to people like say Eirika that have bad things happen to them constantly over their journey, and basically couldn't survive if they didn't have Seth next to her at all times, or Eliwood, who starts out having to be rescued by his friend or even Chrom, that screws up so badly that he needs time travel in order to save him. That's not necessarily true though. You can have a story work just fine with an unremarkable main character. Take Fire Emblem 7, the tactician. If (s)he was a playable character, that would be a main character that is unremarkable. You can have a character that is involved with something bigger-- the same sort of thing happens with Roy. He's basically a commander that ends up doing a general's role because of what happens.

It wasn't just over anger, but rather that the current state of post WW1 Germany makes for a rather easy and compelling argument to sew seeds of discontent among the masses.

However, this still doesn't make much sense regardless if we don't know the size of the force. If Crimea + Begnion can't take out a force that could be used to obtain more units at this point, the war is lost. Especially when the forces they are attempting to save are fortified here and can last quite some time alone-- or as the script put it, to work as a decoy, but may not survive without assistance. I'd argue that if the counter argument is "you don't know the size of the force," this makes Ike's decision to charge in headfirst because "Elincia ordered it" braindead, because it means that he's literally fine with going on a suicide mission. A force that could hypothetically provide a decoy (something that Tellius just loves to use as a "strategy" ) Lucia's assertion here doesn't even begin to make a lick of sense honestly. Because they have troops there already, and avoiding combat with Elincia's current threshold of troops would be more difficult than actually fighting them at this point. Especially because we can clearly see from the map itself that if another set of troops came in where you start, that the Daein troops cannot retreat. They have absolutely no maneuverability outside of going through the mountains. And even if you argue that Daein's troops could try to sausage Elincia's troops here, they don't have the sheer force of numbers to actually make this particularly effective because Begnion is still supporting Crimea. So no, chalk this up to another poorly written scene. Lucia and Bastian are borderline pushing for Geoffrey's death here.

hahaha.

It's funny because I was just thinking the other day how I was wanting to play a DBZ game. Dude, Tien has got to be in! There's no way with all of that hype from Super. Humans are hot right now.

... OH. OH. This looks great. I love fighters. And one that's DBZ is my everything.

And people don't draw the line here? Yeesh.

Or how Crystal allowed you to get Celebi. It wouldn't be the first time you got a little addition to the next version in the same gen. And new forms seems like the best idea that can be done without bloating the roster too much for the Gen.

Oh yes they are. Place and empty lot of people in your Castle change the castle name to "Support" be done. Once you have it, you always have it. It carries over from other games. This is no different from people mentioning that Renown exists in Awakening. If you have it, you can use it. If you don't, it's not like you still can't make use of Gamble, Percy's natural skill, and Zerker innate critical. For added insurance, keep using Arthur, and enemies have more critical displayed on them. Don't act like it's just me talking about the Great Club. Berserker Percy isn't bad. Having access to Rally Strength and Rally Defense = Good. His passive covers the Critical penalty he has making him only have the bonus of a Berserker, and Percy has one of the best luck growths in the game, so getting hit by a critical is practically nonexistent. And you missed the "use someone as a pair up to cover his movement problems" which there wouldn't be movement problems either-- because he moves at a normal speed. People seriously overrate fliers when Berserkers have some good bases nowadays. And Axefaire isn't exactly a bad skill to get either if you can reach level 15 with him. Conquest maps are generally closer spaced than the wide open fields of birthright. When you compare that to people like Elise that have an outstanding -3 defense modifier and 15% natural growth? Yes. Yes she is when the bulkiest you can get her is to A+ Camilla and get Dark Mage, which still isn't giving her the defense gains she wants until promotion. Or you'd have to turn her into a Wyvern unit ASAP to get anything remotely decent off of her, but good luck using axes with Elise. She's pretty bulky for a mage because you can get the levels straight off the bat. Like I said, breed her with Beruka? Go Sorcerer. Breed her with Elise? Go Dark Knight. You literally can't mess her up, and you can get her with 32% defense. And in the event that Odin isn't benched, she exists. This is a really dumb argument that you're trying. "She might not exist." Oh what's that? Camilla might not exist because I let her get hit by an arrow and didn't reset. The same applies to every unit in Fire Emblem outside of your lord. You have no idea what a straw man is. Please stop abusing the poor phrase. Especially when you are having a hard time reading. I never said Leo was a bad unit. I just said that he has speed problems. He won't double without assistance. You have to do something to fix that. Whether that be cooking for him, giving him speed wings, or changing his class to a Dark Flier, he needs something to get him to be able to double or else he's just the tankiest mage you'll have. The reason I brought up Niles was to demonstrate that a Niles as a Sorcerer would have the same defense as a Ophelia with Dark Knight as her class. And it's not bad. If I leave him as an adventurer or bow knight, get this: he has even less defense growths than Ophelia with Elise as a mother-- the worst defense she can get from a parent. You're missing why I'm even saying this: "she's bulky for a mage." This is true. But unlike Leo, she's a bit faster than he is, so she doesn't need as much help to double-- the only real flaw that Leo has. You trade bulk for some extra power.

He pisses the senators off, and Sanaki covers for him. He then has an outburst, and Sanaki just says "don't do it again." Sanaki dismissed him. He left. And the next scene, Ike doesn't even realize diddly and squat until Titania explains to him. So yes, I'd say there were 0 consequences for this. I'd say those are no consequences. Considering that this sort of typical behavior would result in instant death? Yeah. It is.