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TBH if multiple people have the supporter role, I feel like it's the "FE mechanic" that was supposed to be in the game. Take vanillas and give them a chance at OC instead. Either way, since the Supporter role is so provable, I can't see why Paper would fake it. He could (and IMO should) out who he managed to talk to in OC on D1. It's not like that person is confirmed town in any way, so I don't really see any harm in it other than confirming Paper's role. Also, I dislike how Shinori called Prims's case on Areox "easy" considering he started off the phase with basically the exact same case.

##Unvote, ##Vote: Lucina Post basically consisted of asking other people to be more active, but she hasn't said anything either. Granted, she's just subbed in, but what's the point of asking people to be more active if you're not even going to say anything useful about the people who are active?

I'll reread in the morning, or more likely tomorrow afternoon because I have a midterm in the morning, but I don't really like the Elieson wagon. Okay, it's kind of weird that his action failed, but I can't see a reason for him to make a big deal about getting the town to choose his target if he was scum if he was just going to claim hooked at the end. It seems like an unnecessary way to draw attention to himself if he was scum.

I didn't mention anything about Prims likely faking the cop report because by doing that, it makes the fake completely useless. Playing along with it actually gets reactions, especially as Areox wouldn't be likely to know that Prims fakes Cop reports every other game. Also, SB looks pretty town from the Smilies wagon to me because if he was scum laying down the last vote on his buddy it would make more sense to suddenly have a change of heart and mention something scummy that Smilies had done to try and get towncred. Voting as SB did seems more like town who thought that Smilies was town too.

Yeah I sort of skimmed the flip and didn't really read the wincon until afterwards, so I was operating under the assumption that Emmeryn was town, which is wrong. People should cool it with the Areox votes, btw. He's at L-2 already.

Don't forget Rebecca x husband and Nino x husband is also canon. And if we're going to count one-sided stuff, Marcus x Eleanora. The bit about unpaired endings causing the paired endings to not be canon is kind of eh. Like, in FE7, Eliwood and Hector can both be unpaired, but they still get married, so idk. Surprised nobody's mentioned Noah x Fir yet. Not canon, but it deserves an honourable mention for being one of the only supports with a direct admission of love, which is something.

Wait actually scratch that Marth's post just made me reread the flip and realize that Emmeryn might not be allied with the town.

Fixed. What exactly does the mafia learn from Emmeryn outing themslves? They should presumably already know Emmeryn's identity, unless you're proposing that Mancer was the original kill choice for the mafia. Also, ##Vote: Areox

Okay, so, it makes very little sense to me for Mancer to have been the original kill target. There was some suspicion against him for a good chunk of the phase. It makes much more sense for him to have died protecting Emmeryn, and assuming this is correct, the know this too. IMO whomever is Emmeryn should out themselves as a town clear so they can get a possible Doc or Watcher or something on them tonight because it's pretty likely otherwise that the mafia will just target them again and this time succeed, since the town's protective roles won't know who it is.

Well it's not like Proto hasn't claimed Bomb before As a heads-up, I won't be here for most of tomorrow. I ~should be able to make it back before phase end, but no guarantees.

As Manix said, there's no real point to them claiming before they have to if we're going to lynch Baldrick.

That doesn't make me the Hooker though.

The point of "worst case scenario" is if Baldrick is in fact telling the truth about him lying on D2 about his N1 action. I think it's more likely he's lying right now. Elie, me targeting you doesn't prevent other people from targeting you as well.

Well, yeah, him telling the truth is the worst case scenario. I wouldn't be voting for him if I didn't think it was more likely he was lying.

The worst case scenario of every lynch is a mislynch. When you're lynching a vanilla the worst case scenario becomes a vanilla mislynch instead of a power role mislynch though.

Okay, I can see why you might want to do that on N1, since you were a major wagon on D1. But on D3, partially because of the Lucina report, there were only like two votes made against you the entire phase. I don't think I believe you, and as Manix says, worst comes to worst we just lynch a Vanilla.

Okay so we have like two hours left, and Smilies has 5 votes and Paperblade has 3. Smilies, if you're checking the game, you should probably claim your role.

Also, also, just remembered this. Caught in a lie?

Yeah, I see no reason why Baldrick would want to take a Vanilla role over Sho or Lucina's role. His N1 action clearly shows that he didn't really care which alignment he chose, and in addition to that, even if he did change his mind and decided he wanted to join town, why wouldn't he wait for either the claimed Doc or claimed Cop to die? He wasn't in any danger of getting NKed and he probably could have escaped a lynch by just saying that he was waiting for a town PR to die before taking a role, which would have made perfect sense. ##Unvote, ##Vote: Baldrick

Well, to me, saying "I think I'm a Backup but I'm not sure" after saying that he was a Backup reads more like he was trying to seem like something other than a Backup. Okay, fair enough, it was wrong of me to say that you and Smilies were the same, but what I was trying to say by asking why you didn't vote any of the others was why was Smilies worse than the other inactives? I guess you kind of explained that though.

Clarify, are you an Amnesiac who starts of with no alignment and takes on both the role and alignment of your target? Or are you an Amnesiac who starts off as town and takes just the role of somebody who dies?

What the hell. I can understand trying to take the role of Sho if only because of the 1-shot Fullcop, but why on earth would you take a Vanilla role?

I am reading what Marth posts, which is why I'm able to point out things about him that I don't like. I don't particularly see how the way he claimed makes him town either. As for my vote against you, I was just trying to understand why voting one inactive over another made sense, or why you decided to do that at all. Fine, all those people have RL commitments. What makes Smilies' "idk what's going on" worse than Areox's "idk what's going on?" Smilies made a sheepy post in the middle but that was after your vote for him, IIRC. For that matter, you're saying that Smilies is bad for saying he has no reads, but you said basically the exact same thing. This is like your first post saying someone is scummy for reasons other than inactivity. The only difference I can see between him and you is that you had more posts which didn't say much than he did.

So if Elie is telling the truth, there is a 1-shot mass-hook (confirmed), a fulltime town Hooker (confirmed), a 1-shot town Hooker, AND a fulltime mafia Hooker. That is waaaay too much hooking IMO. So I don't believe that claim. Plus he could easily be a mafia Jack with a 1-shot hook he used on Mancer N3. I'm Integrigirl, younger sister of Integriman and the Town Hunter. I'm a reserve fighter who never gets any glory (complaining about not getting any screentime is the PR I haven't been following). So if I die at night, before I die, I take whomever I'm targeting down with me in an attempted blaze of glory. Kind of like a Bomb/Vig mix I guess. I targeted Baldrick from N1 to N3 (failed N1, successful the other two times) and Elieson N4 (successful). Oh I thought you had another part to your role other than Miller, but I guess not.

On the subject of claiming, should we just mass-claim? We've got a bunch of clears/townreads, and our Cop and Doc are dead, with our Hooker outed, so I don't think that it will result in the mafia getting a lot of extra info.