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gg this thread fell to the second page New Characters I didn't take a pic of Mintz because we don't technically use him until the next Runan chapter and because I forgot to take one, the game transitioned to Holmes, and then I was too lazy to go back and do it even though it would have taken like 10 seconds. cough I will maybe hopefully have HOLMES's first chapter on Sunday.

I'm not sure why people think that a unit that can transform into multiple forms is OP considering this is basically every unit in FE11/FE12, with the restriction of not being able to "transform" in the middle of chapters.

the point of giving tron to Lex!Tinny instead of Lex!Arthur is because as soon as Lex!Arthur stops being able to OHKO everything he stops being good and starts dying instead. Lex!Tinny never stops ORKOing non-boss enemies with Tron so it makes more sense to give it to her in Chapter 10 and F. I don't think bowlock is 'no problem' in this game. Because of the way enemies come at you in squads of 10, EP combat is very important in this game. The only squad that Lester can take out by himself is that bow knight squadron, which is like one squad in the entire game. He shouldn't be higher than Upper Mid IMO.

If underrated means a game that gets rated below what it deserves, then I don't think your argument works, because a lot of people would probably say that their FE6 patches are to make the game better/balanced, so at least to them they don't think the game is very good.

Except Azel!Arthur doesn't have the durability through skills or a holy weapon to take on mobs of enemies like Lex/Levin!Arthur can. Sending Azel!Arthur to fight a bunch of enemies is basically him getting hit by the first, counter-attacking and killing them, and then getting hit by the second and dying. It might take 3 hits to kill him, and he might dodge one or two, but neither will let him fight more than a few enemies at once reliably. And if you're just carting around a low HP Azel!Arthur to be a player phase nuke, I don't see him as being better than Midir!Lester (considering the latter doesn't have to wait to promote for a mount). I personally think Azel!Arthur is overrated and should be in Mid or something. I think Midir!Lester can probably be Upper Mid; he gets inheritance and has pretty much exclusive access to the Hero and Killer Bows since Faval only cares about Ichival. I might be wrong but I think Hero Bow!Lester can kill the Dark Mages in Chapter 7 without getting countered, and they can actually do a lot of damage to most units. Then in Chapter 8 and 9 he can ORKO the ubiquitous wyverns, which is useful. He's not guaranteed to wreck the arena like Arthur but he faces the ranged arena, which is easier overall so he can get pretty far. I would put Julia in around the same place; she's not mounted but she has great EP combat with Resire and staff utility.

I do think that Aideen should be above Deirdre but your argument about Aideen buying the Silence staff from Deirdre makes no sense. It's a total waste of money when Deirdre starts with it and Aideen needs a massive money dump that could go much better to other places, such as to Sylvia to buy the Knight Ring, or trading the Elite Ring around a little. And remember, Aideen has no source of income other than Dew (until promotion anyways), and she needs to repair the Warp staff and stuff too, which isn't super cheap.

Levin has the best 1-2 range in Gen 1 and can Silence stuff too after promotion (like Reptor), and if we're giving Deirde props for that we might as well give it to Levin. I might have been too enthusiastic about Levin at the beginning because of recently watching Marty's 0% growths videos but I think he's better than chumps like Noish and Alec Alec has like 30% STR and SPD growths so I don't see the positive feedback without rigging; his stats are mediocre and the best weapon he's ever going to get is a Steel Sword. You're basically counting on Pursuit to take him that far by itself. Since when does Noish get access to the Hero Sword??? That thing is Sigurd's. And besides if you give the Hero Sword to Alec he can also ORKO most things with 4 hits, more than Noish because Noish needs a skill activation. I guess if we give him the Pursuit Ring but lol. I think Fury makes much better use of the Hero Lance in Chapters 4 and 5 than Noish or Alec; there's a lot of forest in 4 and 5 has the desert so she can use it to pick off mages and stuff. Speaking of Fury I forgot about her; she can probably be in Upper Mid above Beo.

Alec has Pursuit though. Also does Briggid get Ichival or not? Not sure it makes a difference tbh, I'd probably put her in Lower Mid somewhere.

Unless we're going so fast we're not getting the Hero Axe I don't see how Lex is worse than Noish and Alec, or for that matter why Alec is that high when he can't do anything other than keep up. If you're taking about Diadora being ~mid for Warp/Return in one chapter and Silencing a few enemies, Lachesis definitely jumps up to above Alec, who doesn't do anything other than chip enemies all game. Azel is not promoting in Chapter 3; he'd be lucky to promote ever. Also yeah Ethlin leaves earlier but when she's around she's really good so I really don't see the point of Lex getting his own tier. Actually I think I would drop Levin and down to High and have Sylvia alone in Top.

Aideen- Bottom of High; good mother, essential for a gen 1 Rescue staff, and a good Warp user throughout the game. Noish/Alec- I think I would bump them up to Mid; they're not great but they're mounted and they're there the entire game. Lex- His position is about right but I don't see the point of a tier solely for Lex; the difference between him and Sylvia and the difference between him and Ethlin is not as large as the difference between Sigurd and Levin. IMO below Sylvia in Top, but above Ethlin in High would be okay too. Azel- Low tier; good offence but bad movement and doesn't have the durability either through stats or skills to take on a bunch of enemies at once. But I think his availability and the fact that he has the capability to get a horse at some point makes him better than Tiltyu. Fin- Upper Mid below Dew maybe? He's not great in Prologue but starting Chapter 1 and especially 2-3 he's pretty good, and Prayer is awesome if you can use it well. He also gets the Hero Lance for at least one chapter. Ayra- Below Noish and Alec in Mid, I think. Bad movement and her durability isn't that good. She also relies too much on Astra to be able to kill a lot of tougher enemies. Gets the Hero Sword I guess? Holyn- Above Noish and Alec in Mid or maybe between them and Ayra idk. I think his durability is a lot better than Ayra's and when a swordskill doesn't proc he does more damage. Deirdre- Below Azel in Low; I think she's better than Tiltyu because she can Silence and has Prayer and that can maybe be useful. Jamka- Lower Mid? He has great skills and good offence but bowlock and foot. Also Gen 1 only has one brigade of bow units, in Chapter 5 IIRC, and even that one is pretty far considering you're rushing forward at the beginning of the map with your mounties no matter what to get to Vylon. Lachesis- This is tough. I think it depends mostly on how many resources she's entitled to to allow her to promote. I'm going to throw out above Aideen in High? Beowulf- like... top of Mid? Beo has a mount and Pursuit and I guess he has Charge but he's pretty unspectacular otherwise. His promo gains are pretty funny though. Midir- I want to say Bottom of Upper Mid? Bowlock isn't so bad if you can hit and run, and he has Pursuit and stuff. Claude- Lower Mid above Jamka maybe?

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I think Ambush should be higher than the sword skills (so Astra) if we're taking into account the units that get skills. As you said, the first question anyone asks in FE4 is whether a unit has a horse, and if they have a horse, they can't have a sword skill. On the other hand Ambush is I think really underrated. Even if your unit doesn't have Wrath, you can just slap a Hero weapon on them. In Gen 1, Lex with Ambush and the Hero Axe can kill large groups of enemies. In Gen 2 the Hero weapon may need some crit on it because killing stuff in two hits is hard w/o a holy weapon, but it's still pretty great and you can have Lex pass it to mounted units like Delmud and it's awesome.

in if it starts after the 12th, if not sub from the 12th

The enemy convoy idea was in Berwick Saga and was pretty cool. So was the idea of hiring mercenary NPCs, though not quite in the same way. You could hire mercenaries to fight for you as PCs for a couple chapters, and then there'd be some event later on that'd let you recruit them fully so you wouldn't have to pay them anymore. I thought that was pretty neat.

^ what Venno said. That's why promoted enemies especially are so bad; a Level 4 Sniper will basically just have Sniper class bases for his stats. That same Sniper in HM will have 19 Archer autolevels and another bunch as a Sniper, so there's an especially large leap for promoted enemies from NM to HM.

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Chapter 9! (and the first route split) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCEqOGnh4Ko&feature=youtu.be New Characters New Skills

yeah I realized this sometime last week and was going to bring it up in my next video but I've been busy I guess that means I probably won't promote her then? flying mage is better than raffin lite since it's 0% growths

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