Makaze
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In other words, I'm fine with it at either time but would prefer for it to be after we lynch scum if we can consolidate without it today.
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I agree with your earlier suggestion about waiting until we only have one scum to worry about, but a massclaim could turn the tide here as well. No night kills means someone is hiding something that kept someone alive, which is definitely fishy.
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Confidence and intuition. Less second guessing and more risk taking. Most bad luck is due to a failure to be proactive. You?
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If scum shot the SK who is bulletproof, does that negate the SK's night kill action? If not, then what happened to the SK's kill? I think a possible explanation is that we have a hooker. If that is the case, a hooker telling us who they hooked last night would be very helpful.
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Oh. Well then what happened?
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I see... In that case, Eury is looking bad for the inactivity. Considering no one else has claimed to have redirected the kill or anything (more or less confirming the target town), it does seem like the most viable option.
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Can you elaborate? I don't get what you're saying. I'm not how this works on here, but isn't it possible that the other kill was avoided/fixed by a bodyguard (I think that's it) or doc?
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Eurykins being gone is really throwing my groove. Not that I had a good groove to begin with, but it's jarring.
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Oooh, right. Sorry. My head is clearly not in the game.
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The shota strikes again.
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How do you know Darros's role, to make that claim? I don't remember anything about that.
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Makaze replied to N7隊長ジョン's topic in Far from the Forest...
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Who do you think is mafia, specifically?
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QOTD Thread II - 420 - Favourite question so far?
Makaze replied to Parrhesia's topic in Far from the Forest...
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It seems you are right. I didn't see those were so close together since there was a page break. Suspicion on the question itself is mostly negated by that. But before I unvote, can you give me your reads on people who are not me or j00? Do you have insights that are not echoes? I haven't seen you actually do any research or hunting for yourself since that first good content post. Looking for a remedy rather than a justification this time.
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You missed my point. Having suspicion on me is one thing, but your line of questioning was specifically targeted around a suspicion that was already cleared up before the day started. I don't get why you chose to address that particular argument instead of going for something more concrete. I see what you mean, especially with the out of nowhere vote on you. But I can still see this being town infighting, especially with you two scum reading each other. I feel much worse about Shinori.
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Is there some kind of difference between building a case in public and challenging someone? If so, then my bad. I built a case where you could see. Might not have been what you call a challenge, but the responses after that were, and you responded badly. My challenge to was to justify your behavior. If you meant 'can't we lynch Makaze instead' then you should have asked that; it would have helped you put the thought back into peoples' heads and been an actual non-sheeping contribution. But you didn't. Why didn't you?
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I read it and considered it but it doesn't sound very strong to me. I'm reading a lot of 'doesn't make him town' instead of 'makes him scum'. What actual anti-town things has j00 done?
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No. Just making the point that my role is more town than your role. 1. It doesn't. If your suspicion has any merit at all you would be dead, unless you are a bullet proof role. Yet you still brought up the suspicion after you survived. Why did you press that I didn't talk about you if you knew it meant nothing? 2. That's news to me but oh well. Those are my reasons for claiming however weak they may be in retrospect. You're trying to equate them but the fact is Announcer has less application for anti-town moves than pro-town moves. Comparatively, there are some creative uses of Neighbourizer that could make it a powerful mafia role. Anyway, like I said already, it's not the role itself that bothered me with Psych but how he used it. 1. Balance of probability. It is unlikely that I would be this gutsy as either anti-town side. 2. Your 'covering it' is saying it doesn't matter. Explicitly dismissing it is still ignoring it. 3. Yes it is. The absence of harmful content is data, especially when paired with helpful content. 4. I didn't 'know' in the sense of having a mod tell me but as far as I was concerned there was no possible way he could flip town. Believe it or not, my confidence in my reads is strengthened to the point of absolute confidence when I turn out to be right twice in a row. I have some suspicion on everyone who isn't confirmed town because as far as I know anyone who isn't confirmed town can be either the mafia or the ITP. eclipse it definitely not confirmed town. If someone is not confirmed town, giving them a free pass is bad. You can address it either way. What you want is an actual vote so that you have more to paint with. Like I said, I don't get how your asking for a hasty vote on you is pro-town and would like to hear it.
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You are dodging again. The main challenge is about your sheepiness and the main evidence cited is your question. It is a hard tell of a sheepy attitude. If you did not want to lynch FFM, you did not need to ask. You have enough experience to know that we did not need a hammer and if you wanted one you could have done it either way. It seems to me that the only reason to ask is to absolve yourself so that no matter what you did you could say you asked and therefore it isn't a tell of your behavior. This kind of self-defensive sheeping is scummy. If not that, what was the point in asking?
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Wait, how does that make sense? Aren't you not dead today? I have made a case against Shinori and I'm still building one. What are you talking about? No. My reasons for voting Psych had nothing to do with the role they had, though I found it possible scum role this is a role madness game. Neighbourizer is slightly more portable to other alignments because profits scum in an identical way to town. Unlike Announcer, it lets someone gain a buddy in private who cannot out the Neighbourizer on the fly without looking strange. It's also not anonymous. Neighbourizer is a both scum hunting tool and personal confidence building tool in this way. Announcer's primary use is anonymous public scumhunting which is almost entire pro-town by comparison. Either way, it doesn't make sense to me for someone to use the Neighbourizer role purely to prove that you have it. The data is my voting record, the proven claim, and not having done anything that is has actually hurt town other than being a distraction. I have not asked for role information on from anyone who did not flip scum, so even that should be forgivable as a risky but effective move for a newbie. You have all but confirmed that I am not mafia but still want to believe I am the ITP. At best, it has clouded your judgment and tainted your reads of my posts. At worst, it shows that you want to mudsling at me. You need to address these mistakes or at least take a step back and realize just how biased you are being: I did not complain about not lynching eclipse. I did not say or heavily imply that I was reading her as scum. Why are you asking me to OMGUS? I don't see how the 'Try me' bid is pro-town. Please explain.
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Least favourite way to die? I would be very depressed and have a lot of trouble finding another best friend because I would be afraid of losing them, too.
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You replied but ignored the entire point of my challenge. Instead of addressing the problem, you brought up something I didn't in defense: your vote on FFM. What do you have to say to the original read and why you ignored it in your reply?
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My primary reasoning for this pre-emptive move is that my commitment to the game has been low the whole time and it seems I am only going to wasting more of town's time if I continue as I have been. If scum kill me tonight, so be it. At least you can hunt someone worth hunting and I can be less of a bother to your work. I thought announcer is a pretty decent indicator of alignment because the ITP and the mafia don't have a whole lot of reason to target each other at night. As j00 pointed out, the people who profit the most from the Announcer role are those who will be the target of night kills, AKA town. In light of that and it practically being outed by others for all to see, I figured it was about time for me to use my crumb. It may not be a sure-fire alignment specific role but it's worth it in my opinion. Your role by comparison can profit anyone but especially a mafia or ITP. If we are going by balance of probability you look more far more like an ITP than me from data alone. Also, it was far from just one or two people thinking I was the ITP and being fine with a lynch on me. Most of the people who commented agreed I was probably the ITP; I believe I had good reason to believe I was A) wasting time by drawing suspicion and B) about to become a lynch for lack of better scum reads. As for an update on my current reads, as my previous posts show, I am still getting bad feelings from Shinori and Baldrick is shooting up in the red flags department. If this continues I will have to drop my free pass for the Paper and Junko situation from earlier and consider him a primary scum read.
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Are you seriously prodvoting me? Do you think I am scum? What scum intent are you reading here? No, I am not scum reading her. I did not complain about her not getting lynched, I complained about people not pressing her or showing interest - on that note, this line of questioning from you gives me a bad feeling. If I didn't have a good reason to think you were town I would see this mudslinging and ignoring actual data as scummy. This is the same weak pressuring you pulled at the end of D2. What's your game?
