Makaze

Technically I did this too. Granted that was when I was convinced they were both Mafia. This is an interesting point but I also read that reply as genuine. If it's scummy then it's by omission of not reconsidering? If I'm wrong on Walrein then he must be the best tone player in the world

Yes, we have to. Omega is pretty much unkillable at night.

it's a joke he could be the itp but if he is there is no way we catch him so im not going to worry unless we get down to like 5 left

Like there is no world where Snike/Athena is a thing i'm down to flip Snike just to prove Refa wrong still reading

Snike/Refa remaining scum gg

I mean I agree but Refa has been saying Athena is in his PoE So has Snike I'm legit weirded out by Refa's reads atp

Snike scumflip would clear Athena, that would thought I saw this and this is a world where I think Snike dying would be incredibly helpful.

Going to read Athena.

If it comes down to athena/walrein i am going to assume athena, there is no world where Walrein is not town to me. Literally everything he says just has no agenda

I don't see how any of these are not town Walrein. Arcanite was hella scummy and I would probably have lynched him on a long enough time frame no matter what because his play is just that bad. Consider his ping setting me AND via off like crazy, and we are both in your town reads. I think Snike looks opportunistic but Walrein isn't sheeping and his tone makes sense from a lazy scum hunting PoE. His PoE is also very rational and lines up with mine (mostly).

No.

i mean like actually make a case lol even at the most basic, i don't think you can get any associations if i am somehow wrong what is the logic

can't rely on me for this one

@Refa that's on you time to case someone

I'd like to understand why Walrein is in scum PoE At first I was sure it was just Mafia expanding the PoE to easy targets but I don't think Refa would PoE him if he didn't have a reason like if someone can make a case other than "He hasn't helped the town" im down i just can't see it

lol

Don't hate me because I'm beautiful.

lol i can't fix everything

I feel pretty good about it. gas·light ˈɡaslīt/ verb gerund or present participle: gaslighting manipulate (someone) by psychological means into questioning their own sanity.

It's hard to explain, but I get the most town tone read off of him I have had on anyone this entire game. I can literally point to every post he has said and tell you that it feels genuine. I feel the same about you. You can accept it about you because you know your alignment. But Walrein is even more town than you, despite conributing pretty much nothing. I am not afraid to call out pings on anyone and I have none for Walrein. I also think that a Snike flip would hardclear him if Snike is Mafia, but if Omega is ITP then we have to lynch him because of his claim. That is why a vig would come in handy.

I believe that he was never trying to draw the NK. That's a lie. He said it to add an AtE icing to his amazing post, and it contradicts his claim. I think his claim is real, but he forgot it for the purposes of his post.

i.e. that question is pointless if Snike has been reading up to this point. its rhetorical and contributes nothing i don't believe it and i still think snike is bad based on that response

I think that you are wrong and gas lighting can be any kind of defense where you appeal to the "sanity" of the person you are addressing. Those defenses read incredibly bad to me and they are why I am still wary of anything you throw at me. I'm not happy you aren't casing instead of defending.

I am not willing* my bad

It didn't read as one to me, but the claim contradiction makes it a lock in. Also, Snike's defense is not bad and has no such contradiction, which makes me slightly doubt my case on him. I think that both Omega and Snike are incredibly good scum if I am right about either of them regardless of these defenses, but I am willing to clear them off of one post, especially not if it has a glaring slip like that.