Elieson Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Anyway, rating. Axe. Almost competent growths. 20% spd growth. Comes with stat booster for free? My rating, 3/10 Disclaimer: all ratings should be based on the assumption that the game is being played on HHM. Also, unit rating is organized based on availability starting at their first available playable chapter. Current ranks: Hector-8.3 Matthew-6.3 Oswin-6.7 [/size][/color] Serra-6.3 Bartre-2.8 **************EDIT******************* ALL RATINGS ARE HHM, AS IN LHM/HHM ONLY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esaka Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 4/10 Good early game. But outside of early game? Eh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titamon Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Doesn't he only come with an Energy Ring in EM? Score: 1.5/10 Not worth it, same as Bartre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epic Fail Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 He has Lott's bases but Ward's growths which means his speed base isn't a complete fail. 2.5/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Yeah, he only comes with the Ring in Eliwood Mode. Anyway, he's better than Bartre because of superior axe rank and base speed, and LHM will boost his stats a little bit. 3/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 3.5/10. At least his speed base doesn't completely suck, which is more than can be said for Bartre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galenforcer Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 4.5. I never really liked Dorcas, but he's better than Bartre for the forced chapters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrhesia Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 6/10. Garcia with slightly worse bases and no hero, but he's easily good enough for FE7. If LHM isn't counted (I forgot the result of that argument) he goes down to a 4/10 because those early levels really help him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 He gets a better start than Bartre. The speed, despite the 20% speed growth, stays high enough to double slower enemies even later in the game. Despite a lower Str base, his 60% growth ensures he gets strength per level-up more often than not. He is more useful in the forced chapters, which are probably the harder ones of the game, which matters the most. Raven's rating: 50% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaketheGr3at Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 If playing through LHM, I rate 5/10. LHM gives him a chance to get up weapon level and levels in general to be useful for HHM. With no LHM I'm giving him a 3/10, the same rating I'd give for Bartre because in my opinion Dorcas starts off better with his weapon level and bases but Bartre's growth are better if given time to flourish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandjackal Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 5/10 Dorcas has everything Bartre has without the weaknesses, perhaps a bit more. By the time you're done with Port of Badon, he can have B rank. Though he can one shot mages and pegasi with steel, you can promote him with Silver and additional strength to add more to the one shotting. In a way it makes up for his lack of speed. However, that is no excuse for the two problems giving him that seal makes. 1. He dies out eventually anyways, as he can't one shot things forever and his speed will eventually be so pathetic it's embaressing considering it's FE7, and 2. He's taking it fro Raven the Insane, who puts it to far better use. Still, you could make worse choices. Like Bartre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 3.5/10. Chucking stuff is always helpful, and when it's an axe, it's bound to hurt. Unlike Bartre, he'll have some experience and levels, and his bases aren't as painful. There's probably better recipients for the Hero Crest, though (RAVEN). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kngt_Of_Titania Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Damn, hmm... I'm torn between 4/10 and 5/10 with LHM. He really does have nice bases, although his SPD growth is terrible; that being said, enemy AS is so poor in FE7 that he could feasibly double some enemies for a long time, and maybe even the entire game if fed a speedwing. Bartre likely outdoes him in the end, but endgame isn't that bad in FE7, and Dorcas is better overall. Plus, 60 HP/15 DEF at 20/20 is pretty nice...need I say more? Dorcas also has the advantage that he greatly benefits from being SPD blessed, but doesn't really suffer that much if SPD cursed. 4.5/10: Mediocre but available when you need him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 4/10. Okay start but doesn't really get anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 if I mathed right, bartre is 3.15 wait, I think I definitely did that wrong... I'm gonna recount EDIT: Bartre is 2.8 Dorcas has a significantly better start than Bartre. He doesn't get too far in his life, but he can still prove to be decent without having an awful start. I'll give him a 4.5/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 4/10. Okay start but doesn't really get anywhere. However, decent enough. Just chuck wings and braves. And put him around frail enemies/lance using enemies. Decent Knight Killer though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 4.5/10. Decent bases. Ass speed growth. Can nag a better HHM start with some Lyn Mode levels. Not terrible, but not exactly good either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ϲharlie Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 4/10. I don't have much to say about Dorcas that hasn't already been said. He's basically the opposite of Bartre: decent base speed, but awful growth. It's too bad Dorcas and Bartre can't perform the fusion dance. "Dortre" might have been a good character... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kngt_Of_Titania Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 4/10. I don't have much to say about Dorcas that hasn't already been said. He's basically the opposite of Bartre: decent base speed, but awful growth. It's too bad Dorcas and Bartre can't perform the fusion dance. "Dortre" might have been a good character... Breath of Fire reference ftw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 4/10. I don't have much to say about Dorcas that hasn't already been said. He's basically the opposite of Bartre: decent base speed, but awful growth. It's too bad Dorcas and Bartre can't perform the fusion dance. "Dortre" might have been a good character... . . .or it could be someone with Bartre's bases and Dorcas' growths. Be careful what you wish for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 . . .or it could be someone with Bartre's bases and Dorcas' growths. Be careful what you wish for. . . .Either way I think the result wouldn't exactly be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 . . .or it could be someone with Bartre's bases and Dorcas' growths. Be careful what you wish for. How about combing both, giving them to Dorcas, and Making Barte a prepromo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 6. This is because I'm biased, but he's really not that bad despite never being able to double (Besides Knights and Loldiers), but he has great support options and will start 2HKO'ing pretty much anything, eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 5/10. Just because of that slightly better base speed and passable growths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorena Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 4/10 - Dorcas contributes well for the first few forced chapters and he has enough speed to avoid being doubled against things that matter for many chapters to come. The things that do double him are redundant since you wouldn't be putting him up against a mercenary or myrmidon unless he had a swordreaver or swordslayer. In this sense, he can survive enemy phase rather well and thus get more experience and keep up with getting experience without having to be fed every kill on player phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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