PKL Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 (edited) Credit to Elieson for coming up with the rate the unit idea. Basically, we're gonna be rating FE10 characters according to how they perform in standard drafts. Standard Rules: 1. This draft is for 7 players. 2. Ike, Micaiah, Sothe, Geoffrey, the Herons, the Black Knight, and Lehran are free for all to use. 3. The drafting order is reversed for the last round of picks. 4. Haar is banned from drafting. 5. The game will be played on Normal Mode. 6. No transfers. Rules: 1. Undrafted units may recruit characters, Rescue and Shove/Smite undrafted characters and NPCs, trade, Escape, and transfer items/skills between teams. 2. Undrafted units may not do anything not listed above, including but not limited to meatshielding, building Supports, Shoving/Smiting undrafted characters, opening Doors and Chests, finding hidden items, Arriving, and giving Blood Tide/Night Tide/White Pool bonuses. 3. Allied and Other units may do as they please without penalty. Penalties: 1. Undrafted units have a 4 turn penalty, per unit per chapter (1-6 counts as 2 chapters, and 4-E counts as 5 chapters). Exceptions: 1. One of Edward or Nolan is free for each of 1-P, 1-1 and 1-2. 2. Volug is free for 1-5. 3. Elincia, Marcia and Nealuchi are free for 2-P 4. Nephenee and Brom are free for 2-1. 5. One undrafted, non-Lucia unit is free for 2-2. 6. One undrafted, 7 move unit is free for 3-1. 7. One undrafted, 6 move unit is free for 3-3. Day 1: Micaiah- 7.5 Day 2: Edward- 9.1 Day 3: Leonardo- 2.6 Day 4: Nolan- 9.1 Day 5: Laura- 6.0 Day 6: Sothe- 9.6 Day 7: Ilyana- 7.2 Day 8: Aran- 7.6 Day 9: Meg- 3.8 Day 10: Volug- 8.0 Day 11: Jill- 8.8 Day 12: Zihark- 8.1 Day 13: Tauroneo- 4.6 Day 14: Fiona- 1.6 Day 15: Tormod- 4.0 Day 16: Muarim- 3.8 Day 17: Vika- 3.0 Day 18: Nailah- 7.6 Day 19: Rafiel- 9.5 Day 20: Black Knight- 5.6 Day 21: Elincia- 7.4 Day 22: Marcia- 7.9 Day 23: Leanne- 8.5 Day 24: Nealuchi- 7 Day 25: Haar- 10 Day 26: Nephenee- 8.5 Day 27: Brom- 4.9 Day 28: Heather- 5.6 Day 29: Lucia- 4.9 Day 30: Mordecai- 6.7 Day 31: Lethe- 4.4 Day 32: Geofffrey- 4.0 Day 33: Kieran- 5.4 Day 34: Astrid- 3.6 Day 35: Makalov- 5.0 Day 36: Danved- 4.4 Day 37: Calill- 6.2 Day 38: Ike- 9.8 Day 39: Titania- 9.8 Day 40: Soren- 7.0 Day 41: Mist- 1.8 Day 42: Rolf- 5.8 Day 43: Boyd- 8.9 Day 44: Oscar- 8.8 Day 45: Shinon- 7.4 Day 46: Gatrie- 7.8 Day 47: Rhys- 5.75 Day 48: Mia- 7.5 Day 49: Ranulf- 6.8 Day 50: Kyza- 3.3 Day 51: Lyre- 1.8 Day 52: Reyson- 8.8 Day 53: Janaff- 7.2 Day 54: Ulki- 6.9 Day 55: Sigrun- 6.25 Day 56: Tanith- 7.6 Day 57: Skrimir- 6.6 Day 58: Naesala- 7.1 Day 59: Sanaki- 4.6 Day 60: Tibarn- 7.6 Day 61: Pelleas- 2.9 Day 62: Stefan- 2.7 Day 63: Oliver- 0.9 Day 64: Bastian- 1.7 Day 65: Fireman- 2.3 Day 66: Caineghis- 4.8 Day 67: Giffca- 4.2 Day 68: Kurthnaga- 1.1 Day 69: Ena- 2.25. Day 70: Renning-1.75 Day 71: Nasir- 2.75 Day 72: Gareth- 1.6 Day 73: Lehran- 1 Haar 2 Ike/Titania 4 Sothe 5 Rafiel 6 Edward/Nolan 8 Boyd 9 Jill/Oscar/Reyson 12 Leanne/Nephenee 14 Zihark 15 Volug 16 Marcia 17 Gatrie 18 Aran/Nailah/Tanith 21 Micaiah/Mia 23 Elincia/Shinon 25 Ilyana/Janaff 27 Naesala 28 Nealuchi/Soren 30 Ulki 31 Ranulf 32 Mordecai 33 Skrimir 34 Sigrun 35 Calill 36 Laura 37 Rolf 38 Rhys 39 Black Knight/Heather 41 Kieran 42 Makalov 43 Brom/Lucia 45 Tauroneo 46 Lethe/Danved 48 Tormod/Geoffrey 50 Meg/Muarim 52 Astrid 53 Kyza 54 Vika 55 Leonardo 56 Mist/Lyre 58 Fiona Edited March 15, 2012 by Balcerzak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightli Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 8/10. Free, great at healing, and Thanibombing make her a good unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 8/10. Can nuke high-def enemies. Insta A with Sothe. Also, Sacrifice may be worth something......I guess getting down to wrath/resolve activation could count.. Also, you forgot to mention high magic+healing. Cons Speed growth is . Also, she has the durability of wet tissue paper that's been soaked for hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 8. She can 1HKO Knights and Cavaliers as long as you go on training her a bit. She can 2HKO reliably. She can heal from long/range and stuff and shes free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 (edited) She was amazing in one draft I was in, but that was EM and I abused her stats a little bit early on. I'll go with 6/10. EDIT: @Soul, most prominently, if we're doing free units I'm still counting them on the same level as draftees. Free means nothing. Edited January 1, 2012 by Integrity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Take note Im not counting that as a point for her score, its just great she has all those benefits when shes free. Shes the reason I dont ever need a healer for Part 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted January 1, 2012 Author Share Posted January 1, 2012 Take note Im not counting that as a point for her score, its just great she has all those benefits when shes free. Shes the reason I dont ever need a healer for Part 3. Or Part 4 for that matter. Shes also got Rescue in endgame without costing a deployment slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 It's kind of hard to score free characters, I think. Usually I'd think in terms of "Why would I want to draft this unit?" but I obviously can't with free units. But I don't want "she's free" to be a point in her favor for her score, either. So... 7/10. Powerful offensively, but awful durability means she'll always need support until later when she can use Resolve to hold her own, if that ever even happens. Fairly poor movement, but the maps she's in usually aren't very move-centric, either, so it doesn't hurt her too much. Also very nice to have around as support for Sothe, who will almost always be doing most of the heavy lifting for all of part 1 and some of part 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciarre Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 8/10 Her with resolve is amazing, plus she's free. Sure, she gets 2HKO'd by most things throughout the game, but that's why resolve works so well on her. Resolvecaiah can also ORKO the laguz in 3-6 with resolve and with Sothe support and a thicket she won't get hit much after she's in resolve range. She makes my life easier in the desert chapter when I don't have a flier drafted. She can start pulling her weight (which admittedly is not very much, since it's only like 5) in 1-6-1 if she can take at least one hit and clear the armors up top with resolve active. In 1-8, she can clear out the left side of the map. She 4-turns 1-9. And more. So yeah, I love Resolvecaiah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintessence Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 (edited) 7/10 Good offense, but easily beaten if there's nothing to support her (Sothe (support/guard), Resolve). Edited January 2, 2012 by Quintessence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 She's Rhys 2.0. Better growths, thani, and is free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 I think she's worth a solid 8/10. Thani and auto A support are big pluses. Speed is a downer, but resolve makes her usable if frustratingly reliant on luck. Also, as a side note, I don't think I have ever seen Sothe activate guard and protect her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wen Yang Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 7.5 out of 10. Good offense, crappy defense, but is free, can heal, and thanibomb. To be fair, her main selling point to me is that she's FREE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 8/10 I wouldve rated her otherwise in Hard Mode. >.< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 Micaiah's average is 7.5. Day 2: Edward Pros: Great availability. Good offensive growths. Wrath. Resolve + Wrath makes an amazing combination on him. Can use Caladbolg starting in 3-6 for even better dodge and offense. Drafting him can save 3 turns in 1-4 thanks to his great offense. Abundant BEXP allows him to promote as soon as 1-7 in NM. Cons: Bad durability. Bases are inadequate for a level 4 myrmidon. Sword lock means inferior 1-2 range. I give him a 9.5/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 I'm going to give him a 9, despite the fact that I've never actually had him in a draft. In other words: my advice is untainted by experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 9/10. Great availability and growths/stats. Lack of good 1-2 range and low movement hurts a bit, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 (edited) 9/10 Great availibility Growths Endgame. And mass bexp means promotion by even 1-6. Wrath-Resolve-Vantage And Caladbolg Con Durability Bases Lol Wind Edges for most of game. And I could say that Zihark and Mia exist, but this is a mass rating of edward, not those 2 Edited January 2, 2012 by The Creeper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 9. Edward is amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintessence Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 9/10 His bases suck but his growths give him a boost, specially since he's usable from the very first chapter of Part 1. Innate Wrath is a plus. 1-2 range swords also suck but they're still useful, somehow. Quite good performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapier Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 (edited) How can you guys give 9 to Edward? He's always 2HKO. o_o Edited January 2, 2012 by Rapier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 You know we're talking about NM, right? And in a draft, where Edward gets every XP ever, the only chapter he's 2HKOd in is 1-P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Edward is not even 2HKOd in 1-P. Not even in HM iirc. But yeah, being fed most of the experience with those growths means he really doesn't have any significant problems statistically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 Hes 5HKO'd in 1-P actually. He gets 2HKO'd only in 1-1 if he didnt proc def/hp. That is easily solved with the dracoshield though. Which he will probably get in a draft setting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Is he? I had images of him dropping to Wrath health after 2 hits, which would suggest a 3HKO as opposed to the 2HKO I suggested. On the other hand, my points is just being further proven - my "facts" aside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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