dondon151 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 pretty good 5/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kngt_Of_Titania Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) 6/10 I don't know what to say. She's Marcus with probably overall worse stats up to that point, terrible CON (tied with SM Guy....WHAT?!), and mediocre durability (although the latter two can be ameliorated). Yeah, she's a good candidate for the Body Ring, but so is Athos (there are two body rings in the game, yes, but at the very least the desert one is a PITA to get). Her combat is also nice, but Sain/Kent will probably beat her in that too; certainly in a S-rank run, and an efficiency run probably has one of them promoting in LHM and kicking ass all HHM long. She can ferry, but so can Florina; and in the rare cases where Florina ferrying can't work, she hardly lays sole claim to that horse utility. She gets bonus points for being easy to pick up and use (and for having a pretty portrait) and having fantastic move as per all paladins, but she's nothing special. She's not essential for ranking/LTC or absolutely amazing at combat, so no 9/10, and she's not even the best of something non-essential (hell, she's not even the best prepromo), so no 8/10. She would have been 5 or 5.5/10, if not for her usefulness in Kinship's Bond. Edited January 15, 2012 by Kngt_Of_Titania Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 but she's like a zillion times better than wil so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Sage Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 9/10 high move paladin whose awesome w/Robe + Body Ring (which are virtually uncontested). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kngt_Of_Titania Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) but she's like a zillion times better than wil so Are we seriously starting this again? I, for one, don't wish to piss on the corpse of a long-dead argument. Edited January 15, 2012 by Kngt_Of_Titania Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Are we seriously starting this again? well you rated her lower than you rated wil so yeah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kngt_Of_Titania Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 well you rated her lower than you rated wil so yeah I'm sorry, but it's getting late here, I have to work tomorrow morning, and we both rated her almost the same (although you rated her slightly lower than I did, which is somewhat ironic given the fact you're implying I've under-rated her). I've given a long argument for my ratings for both characters, which should be plenty for justification. Not trying to be rude, but I REALLY don't want to do this again, even if I had the time. I've been through this song and dance more than enough times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 She was my only casualty in my first HHM run. I still haven't forgiven her for that. 7/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 and we both rated her almost the same (although you rated her slightly lower than I did, which is somewhat ironic given the fact you're implying I've under-rated her). no, see, this is irrelevant because i think she's better than wil and you think she's worse than wil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xblade Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 she is alright but lacking in the stat department. 5/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ein Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 She was my only casualty in my first HHM run. I still haven't forgiven her for that. 7/10 Wha... You blame HER for your screw up/the RNG screwing you over? >_> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 She was supposed to be good, not killed on the second turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) But she isn't the /optimal/ user of it. She doesn't use it best. It's like Bartre might like a speedwings so he doesn't suck so bad before his okay speed growth kicks in, but Marcus uses it /best/ since he gets so much more use out of it. Isn't there another one before Marcus' base speed isn't good enough? Not that it's worth giving to Bartre, but...does Marcus need it (not disagreeing, just unsure that it's really neccessary for him to have)? Also Isadora's pretty great. 7/10. Certainly a lot better than Wil Edited January 15, 2012 by Refa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frat_tastic Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 8/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) IIRC in efficiency Marcus takes the first speedwings and dracoshield you get. Does he perhaps need it at the time? Maybe not, but it's better to have it on him than not. I don't remember when the second one comes in and can't be assed to check, but if it's after his base speed + expected level isn't good enough, then taking the first wing would be a smart choice since it will cover through that period when said speed isn't good enough. And most of the units you get earlygame are either pretty scrubby anyway or don't really need the wings, making Marcus the best choice for it. 4 extra avo can't go wrong either, since that's a bit more when you translate it into true hit. Speaking of speedwings I need to shove another one on to marcus those CoD Valks double half my team argh Edited January 15, 2012 by Luminescent Blade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 8/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekkah Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 8/10 Very useful clutch 8 mov attacker with the Silver Sword, but definitely needs WTA to have acceptable durability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whase Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 low con and comes in late. though the point that she is one of those rare female units to use axes, gives her a slightly higher score IMO. 6/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 She expects that robe to be used on her. Not happening. Raven's rating: 65% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeCrush980 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 What the hell? We are talking about the same unit that's consistently been in Lower Middle/Low for years, right? Why is she suddenly beating the snot out of Lowen? I mean she does have the best class, but her stats are nothing special for that point in the game, and her growths suck so she's never getting any better relative to your team. All she has going for her is midgame filler, but even then Hawkeye and Geitz are joining really soon and taking over that department. 4/10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Isadorable is fucking amazing, haters gonna hate. But what did I rate Fiora and Florina? I can't justify rating her that high. Since she has flaws but I still wub her 7/10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schlafo Zobeni Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Her flaws can easily be fixed with a Robe and the Body ring , so that she's basicly Marcus with better Speed . However she comes rather late and a lot of other Units want to have a Robe/Body ring and perform better than Isadorka with it . Without stat boosters she's a Rescue bot with good Move which is fine, but she's on a Horse and not a Dragon . 6/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esaka Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 5/10 So many other prepremotes are so much better then her, Hawkeye and Geitz come very shortly and the other 4 cavaliers do the job fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Since when are 5 Pallies a bad thing to have if you have them all fielded in midgame to lategame. And all promoted by lateGame. She's average, but pretty good given the right resources. Body Ring+Robe/Draco. Hell, she makes great use of an energy ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 8.5/10 pretty great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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