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lol. Considering that I think Reggie hates me I'm pretty sure that wouldn't be the case... actually Olwen/Chiki might hate me as well not sure... and I sometimes think you hate me... I'm pretty sure me giving him a 2/10 (especially when I gave Virion lower) would get me a lot of hate.

I love everyone bro (the galeforceble states that thou shall not hate lest they are an elitist tool)

Except Donnel

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I've changed my mind. Donnel deserves an 8/10 because

Incidentally, if the kids ever actually get tiered I can see Donnel!Morgan being above the Avatar. Even if Donnel is level ~5 just from dual attacks and such, Morgan is rocketing out of the gate getting a few easy levels in his joining chapter and if you make him a Cavalier instantly he'll quickly be looking at all 0s from enemies and one-rounding them with Javelins as a Paladin. I haven't tried making him a Wyvern Rider yet, but I have a feeling it will go about the same way minus his starting Weapon rank.

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Incidentally, if the kids ever actually get tiered I can see Donnel!Morgan being above the Avatar. Even if Donnel is level ~5 just from dual attacks and such, Morgan is rocketing out of the gate getting a few easy levels in his joining chapter and if you make him a Cavalier instantly he'll quickly be looking at all 0s from enemies and one-rounding them with Javelins as a Paladin. I haven't tried making him a Wyvern Rider yet, but I have a feeling it will go about the same way minus his starting Weapon rank.

HAHA who said that?

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Did the rules change? Last I checked, you couldn't rate a character based on their worth as a parent.

I'm yet to actually see that rule...

And you're yet to understand sarcasm.

Edit: I see what you meant but it's interesting to notice that that part of the rules is crossed out making me think that it's not actually in effect.

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I don't really see what your talking about? Ay examples.

Several people are ignoring his mid-game woes against the lance-heavy Valm. While others ignore his pretty great offense when equipped with his KE.

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The way I see it most ignore the lance issue because he has wyvern rider which flips his disadvantage to an advantage.

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The way I see it most ignore the lance issue because he has wyvern rider which flips his disadvantage to an advantage.

Which takes a second seal... wtv I guess people can do as they wish (although lances are technically the best Valm weapon type)

btw. I finally found someone who's arguing that Donnel is good. http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/643003-fire-emblem-awakening/66324978?page=1

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smash has argued that Donny is good since liek day 1. Personally Im still trying to find a way to grind him earlygame before considering him to be any better

He's good but not great. The thing is his problem at base, past reclass he's pretty much invincible.

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I like how you immediately put him in high tier after the only response was "gotta go can't talk now"

Maybe because I honestly think he's high tier? I'm not tiering for an "efficient" PT. Mainly because the definition of "efficiency" seems to depend entirely on who I'm talking too.

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You admitted yourself that Donnel slows down your team pre-second seal. You didn't even wait for an inquiry on that fact before moving him.

I thought about it before making the move. Donnel's power post reclass makes up for it. Slowing down isn't as big for me as it for you.

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Fair enough, just thought it was iffy that you didn't wait for an explanation on the completely valid point before moving him.

Ehh. I thought it out a bit more and decided that 2-3 chapters of babying to become one of my best units was worth it with the way I was tiering. I can understand that people here tier differently and I respect it, I merely can't understand "efficiency" very well. (another thing I needed to think out recently)

Also because I don't feel like talking about Donnel until tomorrow so does anyone else think Lon'qu's votes are strange?

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Also because I don't feel like talking about Donnel until tomorrow so does anyone else think Lon'qu's votes are strange?

Quite, even by (borderline) LTC standards he deserves higher than a 6/10, his speed tier is insanely high and his mega avoid can make him nigh invincible, a a support with Vaike or Panne easily substitutes for his damage flaws and once he gets Astra he can become a killing machine. It's not hard to get him to level 10 either before chapter 13, hell I generally get him to level 12-15.

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