Da Bear Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 She isn't too good in the Taguel class, I agree, but as least she doubles and with Pair Ups, potentially 1RKOs. You just described 3/4 of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 You just described 3/4 of the game. I was describing Panne's way of getting four levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Bear Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 I was describing Panne's way of getting four levels. Yes but by the time we get Panne most of our team is 1RKOing all we gain from Panne is another unit doing so. I tend to value durability very highly so I prefer several other units. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Yes but by the time we get Panne most of our team is 1RKOing all we gain from Panne is another unit doing so. I tend to value durability very highly so I prefer several other units. Reclassed to wyvern rider, Panne has quite a bit of durability going for her (and she'll have a lot more compared to other units, too), so I don't know what you're saying. Most of the team is 1RKOing by the time we get Panne? I don't know about you, but I can't see Vaike 1RKOing much by the time Panne is recruited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewjeo Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) Yes but by the time we get Panne most of our team is 1RKOing all we gain from Panne is another unit doing so. I tend to value durability very highly so I prefer several other units. Who do you have that's more durable than Wyvern!Panne and also ORKOs consistently? Avatar, Frederick, and Fred!Sumia? She has 33 HP/14 DEF. Is Chrom level 18? Is Stahl level 15? Vaike 17? Heck, even Fred!Sumia needs to be in the teens to match Panne's durability, and even a level 20 Avatar is only pulling an advantage defensively if you go with a +HP or +DEF Avatar. One that gets a bonus to STR/MAG/SPD is *slightly* below Panne's durability on average. Sure, 2 RES is pretty bad, but given her HP and tonics and pairups and talismans, she isn't really doing too badly compared to your other physical attackers. Edited June 5, 2013 by Rewjeo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 2 res is still pretty inconsequential when panne can flat out ohko magic users on the player phase regardless early on when they actually do something to her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiki Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Why are you guys giving Panne 10/10 just like the Avatar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) I gave her that to balance how dumb 4/10 is. Would normally give her 9/10 or 8.5. But I would bias her to 10/10 anyway. :P Edited June 5, 2013 by Peekayell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiki Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Well, that makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Bear Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 If I used bias Panne would go down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 You're still not convincing anyone Panne isn't that great, bearclaw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Bear Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 You're still not convincing anyone Panne isn't that great, bearclaw. I know that. My chances of ever doing that are negligible. I stand by my vote anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 (edited) This is in Chapter 16 in a draft. Has double the stats of some of my other draftees. Has been my main unit, and Ive never slowed down due to her OPness. EDIT: Oh and she has x5 the stats of my current Donnel. Gave up on him cuz hes useless. Edited June 6, 2013 by Peekayell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk King Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 It's a RTU. You're supposed to rate on how good/bad that you think the unit is. You're not supposed to over-rate or under-rate if you think other people are rateing "wrong". So what if some people gave Panne a 3.5, 4, and some 6's. This isn't meant to be accurate on how good units actually are. It's meant to see what the general view on the characters is. Over-rating to try to make the average closer to what you think it should be defeats the purpose. Besides, thats what the bias points are for. Between the 2 scores units get, their average score will be pretty accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 I would've still given Panne 10/10 with bias. Makes no difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk King Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 (edited) It does cause there are 2 averages. One with bias and one without bias. At least go back and say it's with bias. Otherwise this will end up like the FE9 RTUs where only like 5 people rated some of the later units because everyone got sick of people taking it too seriously. Every single one of Snowy's votes were either way too high or way too low because he "hated how people over/under rate X unit." Edited June 6, 2013 by Hawk King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Otherwise this will end up like the FE9 RTUs where only like 5 people rated some of the later units because everyone got sick of people taking it too seriously. Every single one of Snowy's votes were either way too high or way too low because he "hated how people over/under rate X unit. Long as it doesn't end the same way FE10 did. Which was basically an explosion of hatred and illogical debate. This set will be a success Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Otherwise this will end up like the FE9 RTUs where only like 5 people rated some of the later units because everyone got sick of people taking it too seriously. Every single one of Snowy's votes were either way too high or way too low because he "hated how people over/under rate X unit." Long as it doesn't end the same way FE10 did. Which was basically an explosion of hatred and illogical debate. This set will be a success Dang, wish I'd participated in those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randa Posted June 6, 2013 Author Share Posted June 6, 2013 I wasn't even around for them. Though I looked at them before I started this sometimes it could be funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Tellius RTUs were just a trainwreck in general, it's probably hilarious in hindsight though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiki Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 My votes weren't allowed in the FE10 RTU because the thread owner didn't agree with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Cynthia- Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 The FE10 ratings are pretty screwy IMO, but the FE9 ones seem all right. Overall, I think the ratings have been pretty accurate as far as efficient play goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Bear Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 I can't find the Tellius RTUs... can someone provide links? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 I can't find the Tellius RTUs... can someone provide links? http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=33737 An example of one. You'll need to go to the RD subforum, and scroll back four pages or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiki Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 I personally consider Cordelia to be on the same level as Sumia in general usefulness Availability? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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