Strege Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 No survivoring, and no lingering to send a list after a win. I'm afraid it's still in my interest to draw the game out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 so basically strege, is what you're saying is that you are practically forced to make a nontown win? (numbers and such) gr8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strege Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 so basically strege, is what you're saying is that you are practically forced to make a nontown win? (numbers and such) gr8 Not exactly. I'll vote for who I think is scum if Boron gives me her spellcard because of reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 And Boron, I said why I expect you to die if you're town. Leaving you alive for WIFOM chance is not smart. If you do stay alive, then it's not like I'm going to vote for you right away, but it'll be closer to 50/50 between you and whoever else is left. If you die, and we lynch scum today, it'll be 1/1/1/1. If Strege poofs at that point, it's kingmaker, but if he's there, I'll have to convince him to lynch whomever of Shinori/Manix is left. I have no clue what's up with the harmful third, but I don't think there are any daykills left, because it would be potential LYLO if there were, instead of MYLO. So then it'd be 1/1/1, where Strege chooses which of me and Kirsche he wants to have win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 o...k not sure what that's implying but sure (if it's another kill, then o) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 And Boron, I said why I expect you to die if you're town. Leaving you alive for WIFOM chance is not smart. If you do stay alive, then it's not like I'm going to vote for you right away, but it'll be closer to 50/50 between you and whoever else is left. If you die, and we lynch scum today, it'll be 1/1/1/1. If Strege poofs at that point, it's kingmaker, but if he's there, I'll have to convince him to lynch whomever of Shinori/Manix is left. And why does this apply to just me? You do realize that kirsche is one of town or third party and most definitely not scum, right? In a way, he is more "clear" than I am, right? I'm not clear in any way whereas kirsche is confirmed not-scum. By your logic, why would they kill me over him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Because arguing ITP!Kirsche is much easier than arguing scum!Boron (or ITP!Boron). Heck, half the players already think that Kirsche is the ITP. Basically, the chance of him being non-mafia is higher than your's, but so is the chance of him being non-town, and I think the latter is what the mafia will care about more than the former. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 you know i've been holding onto my spellcard all damn game; so boron/strege: want it? reminder that it grants an additional shot to any shotbased spellcards you guys have offer still open Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strege Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 offer still open No thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 offer still open It wouldn't help me any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strege Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Eh, I'll take it then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 well then i suppose it'll just waste away :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 oh okay ##Declare A: Strege Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Strege, when can you make guesses? Are you allowed to make them at any point? Relevant because you poofing in the middle of a day phase could be bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share Posted July 2, 2013 A spellcard has been declared! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strege Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Strege, when can you make guesses? Are you allowed to make them at any point? Relevant because you poofing in the middle of a day phase could be bad. It's a night action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strege Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 I forgot to say that I have one guess left for the list. Knowing Boron's card won't change when I use it, and I poof whether I win or lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Oh. So basically town really can't actually win at the moment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 IT's either 2/2/1/1 Or it's 2/3/1 with the harmful third party being strege. Either way town loses. Oh wait there is a way own can win. Nevermind. Had to do some math. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strege Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Yeah, I'm pretty sure there are ways for town to win whatever happens today, but it's a significant risk. I'm afraid that I'm not voting for anyone without info from Boron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkirsche Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Then it's simple: I'll invite Boron to talk to me tonight and she can out her spellcard then. It'd also provide me with a good use of my role at long last, so we'll be killing two birds with one stone. I assume Boron is ok with that? Strege, thoughts on this? This way you can get Boron's spellcard before she died and we'll have proof of your word (or rather, your vote). We can't win tonight so giving us scum today won't ruin your chances and if we fail on our word you could always just screw us over tomorrow because we'll be in the same situation. Wait what? You can neighbourize someone? I swear you never mentioned this earlier. ;/ I did mention this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strege Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Strege, thoughts on this? This way you can get Boron's spellcard before she died and we'll have proof of your word (or rather, your vote). We can't win tonight so giving us scum today won't ruin your chances and if we fail on our word you could always just screw us over tomorrow because we'll be in the same situation. I would accept that. Would you, Boron? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Except if Boron dies, Strege would then have to take your word about her spellcard, and since there's a decent chance you're the ITP, you can't really be trusted there. It's also beneficial for anti-town to have Strege poof, which can be done by feeding him false info and having him jump the gun on his last guess. I mean, I want Strege to use his vote too, but I don't think that this is a good plan. Also, Kirsche, what do you mean by "giving us scum"? I wasn't under the impression that Strege knew who the mafia were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkirsche Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Boron talks in the topic. I make people an insomniac for a night. Why would you even try and discourage Strege from voting regardless? How does that benefit town at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 You said it was a neighbourize when I asked earlier. >_> I'm not trying to prevent Strege from voting, but there is anti-town intent in making him leave early from the game, which I thought I saw there because I didn't understand your role earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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