BEST TRYNDAMERE PLAYER Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Skarner is one of the best junglers in the game and is banned/early picked in almost every game at higher elo brackets. And believe it or not, Twitch has one of the best lategames in the game. His lategame is also potentially better than Vayne's it's just that it is harder to reach due to his weak early laning if you play him in lane or his ability to farm jungle reliably if played as a jungler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene120897 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Tanks aren't needed to win games. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Skarner is one of the best junglers in the game and is banned/early picked in almost every game at higher elo brackets. Skarner has a ridiculous clear speed because of Crystal Slash. But I don't see many Skarner bans (mind you, I'm only playing normal draft because I'm not 30 yet. :( ) And believe it or not, Twitch has one of the best lategames in the game. His lategame is also potentially better than Vayne's it's just that it is harder to reach due to his weak early laning if you play him in lane or his ability to farm jungle reliably if played as a jungler. Not terribly sure about that. When someone like the opposition's tank takes an Oracles, you start to melt much easier than some of the other AD carries. Twitch not having escapes/gapclosers unlike champs such as Trist, Cait, Corki (and others I've missed) means that if he's caught out, he's screwed. I can see him still having a strong lategame, but not one of the best. Unless there's something I'm missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solanum Tuberosum Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 (edited) when people don't ban skarner it's because his ganks are pretty bad before 6 (unless you get two crystal slashes off) and when they dont i huehue they prefer to ban asshole junglers who gank earlier, like shaco and rammus Edited December 31, 2011 by piroya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peener weener Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 (edited) ok I'm level 11 and I do not understand a single word well actually I do but I don't understand the implications Edited December 31, 2011 by Stolypin Necktie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wen Yang Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Any of you guys used Ahri? So far I find it totally fun to blow up most common Mid-champs with her, though leblancs does give me a bit of trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkirsche Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Ahri is very good, some cc, good chasing + escaping potential with her ulti, and her q deals so much damage throughout the game. Easily one of the best mids IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene120897 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 (edited) I'm introducing myself,So uhh. I'm playing in League of Legends PH Shyvana, Fizz, and Volibear can be bought through RP bundle pack but still isn't released with IP Summoner Level 30 and my fave is Kog'maw and Shaco. Ahri still unknown when to be released Edited December 31, 2011 by eugene120897 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEST TRYNDAMERE PLAYER Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Agreed Yep, I'm in the top 5,000(upper 1600s-1700) in NA and I almost never see true tanks in my games. The only "tank" that exists in this elo is Rammus and people only ban/pick him because of his retardedly good jungle ganks and even he doesn't get built tanky by most people, they go wriggles and atmogs on him. Not terribly sure about that. When someone like the opposition's tank takes an Oracles, you start to melt much easier than some of the other AD carries. Twitch not having escapes/gapclosers unlike champs such as Trist, Cait, Corki (and others I've missed) means that if he's caught out, he's screwed. I can see him still having a strong lategame, but not one of the best. Unless there's something I'm missing? That's why you wait until the fight's started and people start blowing CC's and burst on your other teammates. That's when you shine in lategame if you're farmed enough. Oracles don't hard counter you either. they prefer to ban asshole junglers who gank earlier, like shaco and rammus lol I wouldn't be surprised if people start QQing over xin because he can gank at level 2 with red buff as well. Any of you guys used Ahri? So far I find it totally fun to blow up most common Mid-champs with her, though leblancs does give me a bit of trouble. She's good if you know how to play her. Once you turn 6 you can instakill most mids with your combo+ignite. I'm introducing myself,So uhh. I'm playing in League of Legends PH Shyvana, Fizz, and Volibear can be bought through RP bundle pack but still isn't released with IP Summoner Level 30 and my fave is Kog'maw and Shaco. Ahri still unknown when to be released wtf that's one fucked up server Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 lol I wouldn't be surprised if people start QQing over xin because he can gank at level 2 with red buff as well. And Riven. Riven can (emphasis on can) gank from level 2. Broken Wings to them and Ki Burst. Anyone without Flash/blink/gapcloser ability can be set up enough to either get a kill or force them to B, reliving pressure on that lane. And if their only blink/gapcloser is Flash, next gank should clean them up. Also consider that clearing red gives anyone level 2 straight away, so ganks can start happening from about 2:30. Scary thought. (I would still get a leash on red, though.) Although some would debate whether Riven is better in top lane compared to the jungle. I think she's fine in both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wen Yang Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Having mained Riven for a good while (Read: Since a bit after her release) I can vouch that Riven works wonders practically everywhere. At top, she can go even or downright massacre usual top picks, depending on champs. Jungle, she lacks a bit of sustainability but has good clear time and has nasty, early ganks. Sometimes if I'm playing with friends I also tend to run her bot with a second stun-capable champ to counter the usual support + AD Ranged Carry meta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEST TRYNDAMERE PLAYER Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 riven's best played as a top lane. She can jungle but her dueling ability and gap closers just yell top lane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solanum Tuberosum Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 riven is really squishy in the jungle, and a .5s stun isn't doing shit unless followed up by another cc from your laner/s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wen Yang Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Piroya, that's precisely what I use her stun for. Setting up enemies for another stun from her lanemate. One of my friends plays a mean Anivia, so... They ain't dodging HER stun when I'm stunning them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solanum Tuberosum Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 which is what you should be doing but in solo queue not all APs will have duh ceecee or have bomb reflexes to capitalize on the short window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK-201 Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Not terribly sure about that. When someone like the opposition's tank takes an Oracles, you start to melt much easier than some of the other AD carries. Twitch not having escapes/gapclosers unlike champs such as Trist, Cait, Corki (and others I've missed) means that if he's caught out, he's screwed. I can see him still having a strong lategame, but not one of the best. Unless there's something I'm missing? Twitch doesn't melt faster than other AD carries at all and in a fight you won't be stealth'd, so that 400g is just dedicated to prevent you from complete map control, which you'll still retain a bit of. It's only their LOS, not everyone's. Obvious solution is don't get caught but that's not always possible. Spray and pray's range makes having an escape on a skill less necessary and you still have flash. He has one of the best lategames for sure, and the only AD carries that are either around his level or above are Graves, Trist, Sivir and Vayne as far as I'm aware with only Vayne outmatching him. AD carries by far have the best lategame meaning his DPS is among the top 5. I'm not seeing any probability of saying he has a terrible, or weak lategame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orpheon Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 I just got a laptop for Christmas, so I've been playing League ever since. Wasn't too confident in my skill to go into PVP, but I had my first PVP match today. Went 22-1-3 as Miss Fortune. Felt good, man. Two of my team-mates disconnected too so I had to manage top and mid since the two that went bot were stupid and didn't send one back to cover mid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 My buddy got me into this game. Fuck him. Still playing beginner matches against bots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peener weener Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 ok ok guys listen ok listen dominion ap tristana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solanum Tuberosum Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 it doesnt really matter just go into pvp matches against real people, play bot games to try out new heroes don't worry too much about losing, you get a lot better though playing real people. riot did make the ai better, but there's only so much a bot can do, especially because the bot roster is limited. and also since the bot roster is limited you don't get exposed to as many heroes as you would playing pvp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEST TRYNDAMERE PLAYER Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) My buddy got me into this game. Fuck him. Still playing beginner matches against bots. I'd like to play a couple of games with you sometime. You seem to have potential. Also, bot games blow dick. PvP is where its at. Edited January 8, 2012 by Joey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvercrow Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Yea--after you get the basics (and by basics I mean like learning the controls and really basic item builds and such) the fastest way to learn the game is just to queue up with a group of higher-leveled friends and play, and not care about winning or losing. You'll wise up pretty fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau of Isaac Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I lost two games yesterday, first to a Volibear that went like 12/0 and then to a Sion that went like 16/0. Fuck this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 I'd like to play a couple of games with you sometime. You seem to have potential. Also, bot games blow dick. PvP is where its at. My name is Life Admiral on it. I'll be on like tomorrow when I get my power cord back from my buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren37 Posted January 12, 2012 Author Share Posted January 12, 2012 I have returned from the darkest depths of University life to post here again. I'm amazed I even have an account. So I'm currently trying to get used to some other champs, because for the longest time I would just play supports. Then Janna after the heal nerf. Now, I'm actually just trying to branch out a bit. TF is probably one of my favourites, just because of perma-mana and some fairly nice harass with W stun and a Q if you're AP, or just stun and get an E proc off. I really want to play a better Jax, but I need IP...so very much. Also saving up for Graves. Soo...yeah. Just need to learn how to play an off-tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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