Bluedoom Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Also my opinion is that if shinori was vanilla we would've won this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 if poly was vanilla you would've won this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 But poly played well and I won't take that away from him. IMO if town didn't have the power gaining roles it'd have been more balanced. I mean when shinori doesn't really do anything in the game and then claims cop on top of all the other roles town has its just annoying as fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancerNecro Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 My power gaining role gave me a pretty crappy role though... I had more or less already guessed the numbers for game when I got that first ability. Also, hoping for a second mislynch to get the second role is too much to hope for when considering the fact that scum killing away two of the day players will give them a whole lot of voting power already (and when I'm the second mislynch, lol). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancerNecro Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 But yeah, otherwise, I'd agree that the game is pretty town-sided because of all the 1v1s and the ability to PoE the scum out. Games should not turn into that at all imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB. Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 (edited) this was not townsided lol. swingy yeah but not townsided. if we lynched blitz on d2 instead of eli we probably would have lost. we also probably would've lost if the mafia didn't fuck up with their first two kill targets. Edited May 1, 2015 by SB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 (edited) Noone said it was scumsided (did I miss something?)? I'm confused. Agree with whatever else you said, though. EDIT Actually you probably meant townsided after reading your post again, I'm totally smart you guys. Edited May 1, 2015 by Refa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancerNecro Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I think the setup's town-sided actually but unfortunately, most games have town-sided setups. Town managed to fuck itself over most of those games though, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 set up wise speaking, I thought the game was scumsided. PoE was definitely a thing for town, but it was a thing for scum too. Scum could have easily figured out the bigger roles like Poly = vig using PoE and setup specs. (I was thinking Marth = vig based on my setup spec theory during N2 and since I was inactive, it should have been obvious that Poly was vig as for Shinori's and Mancer's abilities, I think it would have been cooler if their abilities activated if the mislych was from the phase they were in. As in after Eury lynch, Mancer would have gained the numbers, but Shinori would gain nothing overall, my play was horrible this game and my reads were just as bad, but at least I got to test out some stuff regarding myself also, this kinda confirmed Snike as town Should've said this to begin with, but scorri had been mod-subbed in for Snike. why you ask, because we all knew Eclipse hid LG's role and therefore the most probable reason for Snike to have been mod-subbed out would be due to him seeing LG's flip and since scum would know LG's role, there would be no reason for Snike to be subbed out well, this wouldn't have been a problem IMO if you didn't say mod-subbed, IMO (or if Eclipse did the hiding subtly so that I wouldn't have noticed the edited by Eclipse tag, lol) also, once again, sorry Terrador, for being really tunnely on you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB. Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Noone said it was scumsided (did I miss something?)? I'm confused. Agree with whatever else you said, though. EDIT Actually you probably meant townsided after reading your post again, I'm totally smart you guys. yeah i'm just dumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Poly said he wasn't the Vig (something that tbf we shouldn't have taken at face value) and then you have to choose between people who're barely posting but can make you lose the game anyways like Shinori and people who're actually posting and are impossible to ML even if they don't have a role, like Refa. if we'd killed Poly on N2 and the vig actually had been at day (not unreasonable because unlike AM/PM1 there were still a bunch of day roles like persuader, cop, swapper) then we would have been even more screwed because we would have killed someone who was totally MLable (way more than SB) and besides it wouldn't even have stopped my death; it would have just removed Terra being misvigged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB. Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I was lynchable. The N1 Prims kill was pretty worthless for you though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Not after Shinori copped you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted May 1, 2015 Author Share Posted May 1, 2015 Postgame is still not ready due to me being busy, but I just want to bring up that scorri being mod-subbed for Snike doesn't necessarily make him town. Is it more likely that he is town? Maybe. But I could've also fucked over a hypothetical scum!Snike in different ways. Such as accidentally griping about something game-related in his role PM instead of the mod PM. Or telling him something I wasn't supposed to because oops. Or maybe someone dead-talked to him. Don't automatically write off people as town because of mod-subs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Sorry I was so wrong, Prims. Fell into the same trap that gets me lynched sometimes.to be fair I went all-in on you too and you were town. had we both been alive D2 I don't think it'd have been a problem anymore since I remember finding your N1 announcement town. from the way you went about your cases the gist I got was that your problem was that you were scumhunting by comparing a player to what you expected they should look like rather than what you thought their intent was. the former method only works if you have a very strong grip on somebody's meta and even then it's questionable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 announcers / couriers were fine imo. if anything i thought they should've been buffed. nothing's more frustrating than being lynched because you can't defend yourself town on SF really needs to not only be more decisive at deadline (refa!!!!!!!), but work on getting their shit together and starting to consolidate 24 hours before deadline instead of 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 At least the last lynch was consolidated quite early! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Go me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snike Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 I played way too paranoid this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaze Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Is post-game still coming? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted May 6, 2015 Author Share Posted May 6, 2015 Oh right, thanks for reminding me. I'll get that up sometime this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaze Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 I guess something came up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Boron commissioned me to write postgame. Vig Poly wrecked scum The decision theory helped Hammer should end phase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB. Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Addendum: Always shoot Prims Night 1, even when it's a terrible idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Boron commissioned me to write postgame. Vig Poly wrecked scum The decision theory helped Hammer should end phase lol yes yes and most definitely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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