Time the Crestfallen Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 So, jumping on this bandwagon at it's exciting conclusion. Curious to know, why have the majority of the people vote (in this poll which is what I'm going by, course the actual election proves the point just as much) against considering a third party? I imagine because they perceived the stakes as being too high to vote third party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 I still see no reason to not be condescending. I'll double down on it in fact. Saying things like this just marginalizes my struggles. I'll take what Eclipse said and attempt to apply it, but I also deserve the right to defend myself and my kin. Every day in my classes I hear people say things that are homophobic or transphobic and I shouldn't have to take it. I developed a condescention complex just from having to slash away at people who are speaking maliciously of me, even if indirectly because they don't know. That became my method for responding to everything that isn't in agreement with me. I can attempt to be nicer, but we both know that my treatment could easily get worse IRL. @Eclipse - the treatment of Bi people is terrible, I agree. I dunno what that has to do with you "supporting" us or not, and people like Lady Gaga and Rebecca Sugar are definitely helping on that front. I've had countless years of shit from people. . .except I never did figure out why it happened. It sucks, and I'm sorry you're going through that. However, if I can't support the Christians who treat LGBT horribly, then I'd be hypocritical to support LGBT despite their treatment of bisexuals - IMO it's the same contempt, just under a different label. I'll gladly stand up for the equal treatment of everyone. Last I checked, Jesus said to love everyone. He didn't make exceptions based on race/gender/religion/orientation/etc., and I wish the conservative part of Christianity remembered that (ABSTINENCE-ONLY EDUCATION IS BAD, STOP TRYING TO MAKE IT LAW FFS). Spirit of the law versus the word of the law and all! Still, I don't have high hopes for Congress. I'm pretty sure Hawaii kept its Democratic party, which means that there's some hope there. I hope that the Republican side doesn't try to pass things in the name of religion (and I hope the Democrats put a stop to it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ema Skye Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Re: Media: I think there was sort of an echo chamber going on that didn't help things, either. Oh my gosh yes! Twitter is in shambles right now. Like come on people, the sun is still going to come up tomorrow. These comparisons to 9/11 are totally hyperbolic and absolutely inappropriate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time the Crestfallen Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 I've had countless years of shit from people. . .except I never did figure out why it happened. It sucks, and I'm sorry you're going through that. However, if I can't support the Christians who treat LGBT horribly, then I'd be hypocritical to support LGBT despite their treatment of bisexuals - IMO it's the same contempt, just under a different label. I'll gladly stand up for the equal treatment of everyone. Last I checked, Jesus said to love everyone. He didn't make exceptions based on race/gender/religion/orientation/etc., and I wish the conservative part of Christianity remembered that (ABSTINENCE-ONLY EDUCATION IS BAD, STOP TRYING TO MAKE IT LAW FFS). Spirit of the law versus the word of the law and all! Still, I don't have high hopes for Congress. I'm pretty sure Hawaii kept its Democratic party, which means that there's some hope there. I hope that the Republican side doesn't try to pass things in the name of religion (and I hope the Democrats put a stop to it). I don't think the democrats are in much position to block things unless it requires a super-majority, seeing that there's a GOP-majority senate and HoR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Dreading what healthcare will turn into, yikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasori Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Yikes it seems Trump was right. This really is Brexit 2.0. First going to sleep, confident everything will turn out alright and then waking up to see something went very wrong. I wish Trump luck and I hope that unlike the Brexiteers he actually knows what to do now that he won. Good luck to al Americans on here and I hope he doesn't mess up as much as I think he will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryhard Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 that's what they get for not giving Bernie Sanders any media attention and for the DNC election rigging that's karma i did say before the democratic party will likely blame sanders and his supporters for being too divisive if hillary loses. wonder when that'll happen (if it hasn't already) First Brexit and now this, when will people realize that rich white teenage liberals on twitter are not a representation of an entire population?not really the same IMO. polls shortly before the Brexit vote were more or less the result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotari Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 I really doubt Trump's going to actually do anything at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Wright Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 gg united states, the beginning of the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time the Crestfallen Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Wisconsin just called. Trump wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNLEASH IT Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 (edited) gg united states, the beginning of the end You may not realize this, but the thought of seeing reactions like this is exactly what fueled Trump supporters to elect him. Edited November 9, 2016 by UNLEASH IT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNLEASH IT Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 (edited) Double post, I apologize Edited November 9, 2016 by UNLEASH IT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Wright Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 (edited) um, does it matter right now? he's elected. i've used rational arguments against trump up to this point. also, it isn't a panicked reaction. i very much grasp the role of the presidency, and i very much grasp how catastrophically trump can use his term. Edited November 9, 2016 by Phoenix Wright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 I will concede that point (since you're probably also talking to me). It did fuel Trump supporters, because he really doesn't have much of a stance on everything otherwise (and I will always maintain that he's not out to serve anyone except himself). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNLEASH IT Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 I will concede that point (since you're probably also talking to me). It did fuel Trump supporters, because he really doesn't have much of a stance on everything otherwise (and I will always maintain that he's not out to serve anyone except himself). um, does it matter right now? he's elected. i've used rational arguments against trump up to this point. also, it isn't a panicked reaction. i very much grasp the role of the presidency, and i very much grasp how catastrophically trump can use his term. I also believe that Trump won't make a good president. But his supporters did not care about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterIceTeaPeach Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 I really hope the lesson of this election will be to change the entire election system of the US in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Wright Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 it won't be. I also believe that Trump won't make a good president. But his supporters did not care about that. this isn't a response to what i said lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 I think Trump himself will only go so far, though his ties with Russia are worrying. But that's not what really bugs me. It gives his supporters validation, and there's people in there whose views I think will do great harm. Luckily, white supremacy and Hawaii are antonyms, but I'm concerned for minorities elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Karnage Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 just to let you all know these "we're all doomed" happens every friggin election on the loosing side also Hillary just conceded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Person123 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Trump confirmed President Elect. Man, I love being right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezzy Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 The Associated Press and now Fox have called Pennsylvania for Trump and therefore the presidency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ping Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 I wanna get drunk right now, but it's not even 9am here. Fuck. Here's to hoping that liberal democracy will survive the next four years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etrurian emperor Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 I never had a high opinion of Hilary or even an opinion of her to begin with but I kind of pity her. She is a failure in three big ways. Most obviously she is a presidential failure. She tried twice, she lost twice. Secondly she failed against Donald Trump, largely through scandals she is to blame for so she is also an inept failure. And lastly she is going to be a historic failure. She is going to be the woman who failed to stop Donald Trump. Considering its very likely that history is going to have a poor view of President Trump this tarnishes her name in the history books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 I think Trump himself will only go so far, though his ties with Russia are worrying. But that's not what really bugs me. It gives his supporters validation, and there's people in there whose views I think will do great harm. Luckily, white supremacy and Hawaii are antonyms, but I'm concerned for minorities elsewhere. This. Also, please stay safe, everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 I wouldn't blame Hilary Clinton solely for this. Clearly, America is not as great as we thought it was, nor is it the bastion of decency or this would've never allowed this to happen in the first place. We should've just stayed with Britain and gained independence alongside Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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