Ertrick36 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Don't mind the spoiler; just a little mess I regurgitated, 'cuz I think this thread is the most appropriate place for it. Spoiler YEAH Raise your ヽﾉ B O R O S , everyone! Oboro is hype! H o s h i d a n P r i d e r e a c t s o n l y ! Spoiler T h a n k y o u , O b o r o Praise be, Oboro ヽﾉ Oboro is (or should say "was", because I hardly play Heroes anymore) my star platinum unit. She received the utmost training, in anticipation of the day that never came ;_; when she'd be able to officially serve with Takumeme yet again. Though I hardly ever played this game competitively, so I didn't necessarily know if my Oboro was actually amazing or what her metagame was. Good to know she can at least be decent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted June 27, 2017 Author Share Posted June 27, 2017 10 hours ago, Ertrick36 said: Hide contents YEAH Raise your ヽﾉ B O R O S , everyone! Oboro is hype! H o s h i d a n P r i d e r e a c t s o n l y ! Reveal hidden contents T h a n k y o u , O b o r o Praise be, Oboro ヽﾉ It's beautiful :') 10 hours ago, Ertrick36 said: Oboro is (or should say "was", because I hardly play Heroes anymore) my star platinum unit. She received the utmost training, in anticipation of the day that never came ;_; when she'd be able to officially serve with Takumeme yet again. Though I hardly ever played this game competitively, so I didn't necessarily know if my Oboro was actually amazing or what her metagame was. Good to know she can at least be decent. Yeah quite a few units in this game fall into the category of "Decent but not game breaking" Others are..... not so great (looks at Odin). She needs a lot of SI to be epic which isnt too bad considering some units are so bad they can't even use SI to get a decent build heh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosef Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Oboro was my first 4 star and one of my most usefull unit so i made her 5 star . She isn't the est but she still does the job quite well as a physical tank and i love her seal defence skill ( and heavy spear is not so bad she can even killed hector ! (with help )). I give her all of Peri skill ( well the weapon and special to be fair), the best things i had ever done moslty because i like the idea of killing Pery for Oboro it's sounds rigth .I also give Oboro ignition and the skill that boost the def under 50pour cent hp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRay Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 3 hours ago, nosef said: Oboro was my first 4 star and one of my most usefull unit so i made her 5 star . She isn't the est but she still does the job quite well as a physical tank and i love her seal defence skill ( and heavy spear is not so bad she can even killed hector ! (with help )). I give her all of Peri skill ( well the weapon and special to be fair), the best things i had ever done moslty because i like the idea of killing Pery for Oboro it's sounds rigth .I also give Oboro ignition and the skill that boost the def under 50pour cent hp. Oboro is not Est because only Est is the Est. Est [+Atk, B Lance, Luna, L&D, Lbreaker] can get 112 kills, 7 more than Oboro. I like puns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 16 hours ago, XRay said: Oboro is not Est No dude, Oboro is Est! She's the Est of all the Est! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRay Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Arcanite said: No dude, Oboro is Est! She's the Est of all the Est! Haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 On 6/26/2017 at 5:44 PM, GuiltyLove said: 10/10 thread please pin this On 6/26/2017 at 5:46 PM, Arcanite said: I'm starting to regret posting that poll now @eclipse You know you want to make it happen I'd sooner pin my Raigh write-up. On 6/26/2017 at 5:06 PM, DehNutCase said: Edit: Also, my main problem with Seal skills is that Seal Attack is probably the only one that matters. If you've fought something a round already, that thing doesn't need anymore debuffs to their defenses, hp (poison strike), or spd to die, so their Atk, their ability to kill things, is the only thing that matters. Jeorge actually liked his Seal Atk a lot while training, since it lets him not die to things he can't quite ORKO. It's perfect for units who you want the enemies to attack on their phase. The Seal will carry over to your turn, and then you can unleash hell. Hence why I run a Seal skill on Jakob. Oboro's default set points to a unit who's meant to be attacked by a physical enemy on their phase, so that Seal Def/Threaten Res kick in on your phase. @Arcanite, here's a request for two skills: - Fortress Def - Distant Def The former should be obvious. The latter is to see whether or not she survives a few more mages ('sides the likes of Nino/Linde, since we both know that's not happening). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuiltyLove Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, eclipse said: I'd sooner pin my Raigh write-up. Oh? I'm interested in reading it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 1 minute ago, GuiltyLove said: Oh? I'm interested in reading it Probably not anytime soon. I'm busy with a lot of other stuff ATM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 10 minutes ago, eclipse said: I'd sooner pin my Raigh write-up. You know Oboro deserves to be pinned! The people must know her greatness! 12 minutes ago, eclipse said: - Fortress Def - Distant Def The former should be obvious. The latter is to see whether or not she survives a few more mages ('sides the likes of Nino/Linde, since we both know that's not happening). Didn't put fortress defense on there because you're sacrificing a unit that does her job better (Lukas) for the A skill anyway. Distant defense I feel iffy about... I guess I'll see what I can do Maybe some crazy +Res set that turns her into an even bigger wall that now also tanks mages? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Arcanite said: You know Oboro deserves to be pinned! The people must know her greatness! Didn't put fortress defense on there because you're sacrificing a unit that does her job better (Lukas) for the A skill anyway. Distant defense I feel iffy about... I guess I'll see what I can do Maybe some crazy +Res set that turns her into an even bigger wall that now also tanks mages? For Fortress Def, I was thinking running her default B/C skills, so that she'd do her job as enemy phase bait and debuffer, or for people that get some nonsense like +Spd/-Atk on Lukas. For Distant Def, it would be for some of the weaker mages (she's not surviving the actual nukes). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, eclipse said: For Fortress Def, I was thinking running her default B/C skills, so that she'd do her job as enemy phase bait and debuffer, or for people that get some nonsense like +Spd/-Atk on Lukas. Default B skill? You mean seal defense? Ehhhhhhhhh..... I don't know.... you know how I feel about Seal skills. They're so... "not-so-great" and there are better skills to feed to her as well... I guess it could work as a budget build. 6 minutes ago, eclipse said: For Distant Def, it would be for some of the weaker mages (she's not surviving the actual nukes). Yes I see Now seal defense on a build like this would be ok, since the mages would attack her but not kill her and would be debuffed next turn for her or another ally to slice them up. Using seal skills is so contrary to my programming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Arcanite said: Yes I see Now seal defense on a build like this would be ok, since the mages would attack her but not kill her and would be debuffed next turn for her or another ally to slice them up. Using seal skills is so contrary to my programming. If you're going for that build, I'd run Seal Speed/Threaten Def. Yes, it's a little backwards. However, most mages aren't known for their physical durability, but they tend to be somewhat fast. The -7 Speed should allow some of your slower units to double (for example, Nowi doubles both Robins after Seal Spd). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, eclipse said: If you're going for that build, I'd run Seal Speed/Threaten Def. Yes, it's a little backwards. However, most mages aren't known for their physical durability, but they tend to be somewhat fast. The -7 Speed should allow some of your slower units to double (for example, Nowi doubles both Robins after Seal Spd). It does seem a little backwards lol Perhaps something like that could work, though for me in particular I don't have much trouble doubling anything since most of my mainly used units have 35+ Speed anyway. Also I just realized to give her distant defense you'd have to sacrifice a Celica XD Edited June 28, 2017 by Arcanite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, Arcanite said: It does seem a little backwards lol Perhaps something like that could work, though for me in particular I don't have much trouble doubling anything since most of my mainly used units have 35+ Speed anyway. Also I just realized to give her distant defense you'd have to sacrifice a Celica XD If Celica is a duplicate with an awful boon/bane (+HP/-Atk comes to mind), that shouldn't be a problem. How often do you double the likes of Hana/Lucina? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 Just now, eclipse said: If Celica is a duplicate with an awful boon/bane (+HP/-Atk comes to mind), that shouldn't be a problem. How often do you double the likes of Hana/Lucina? How often do I double Lucina? Maybe 3% of the time XD Most of the time I just put Azura in front of her and walk away :P and sometimes Azura is able to double from my Lyn's Spur speed but I'd say that I don't double Lucina that much, not that I even need to double her anyway. I don't ever see Hanas in the arena though heh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuiltyLove Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Dang I should really work on making an Ultimate Oboro sometime after I finish upgrading everyone else... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 42 minutes ago, GuiltyLove said: Dang I should really work on making an Ultimate Oboro sometime after I finish upgrading everyone else... You'll need Matthew, Leo/Subaki, Hinata, Selena, Male Robin, and Catria/Lukas got any of those? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuiltyLove Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Just now, Arcanite said: You'll need Matthew, Leo/Subaki, Hinata, Selena, Male Robin, and Catria/Lukas got any of those? Matthew: Yes Leo/Subaki: Kinda Hinata: No Selena: Yes M!Robin: Too many Catria/Lukas: >implying I'll ever sacrifice Catria I have a few Lukas units though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, GuiltyLove said: Matthew: Yes Leo/Subaki: Kinda Hinata: No Selena: Yes M!Robin: Too many Catria/Lukas: >implying I'll ever sacrifice Catria I have a few Lukas units though Promote Subaki to 4 star Locate a Hinata, or use that 5 star Lukas for Fortress defense instead (though you can do this whole set on him instead) Youll also want a +Atk Oboro as well, if you have one are you actually thinking about doing this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuiltyLove Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, Arcanite said: Promote Subaki to 4 star Locate a Hinata, or use that 5 star Lukas for Fortress defense instead (though you can do this whole set on him instead) Youll also want a +Atk Oboro as well, if you have one are you actually thinking about doing this? Maybe My queue is: Camus Michalis Nowi Catria (to merge) Actually, there's no particular order after Nino. I'll see what I can do though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 1 minute ago, GuiltyLove said: Maybe My queue is: Camus Michalis Nowi Catria (to merge) Actually, there's no particular order after Nino. I'll see what I can do though Well as I always say, there's always room for more Oboros! Even though your Catria has a very similar set Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuiltyLove Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 7 minutes ago, Arcanite said: Even though your Catria has a very similar set IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANRYU Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) Ah. Yes good. Nice Oboro writeup! After much deliberation on who to 5* next out of my several optimal Horse emblem units and dragon waifus, I ultimately settled on the Best Girl^tm and have been working on getting her enough SP to finish her kit. Here's what I settled on: Killer Lance+ | Swap | Ignis | Def+3 (placeholder for Fury since I've pulled a grand total of 0 hinatas) | QR2 | Threaten Atk 3 | HP seal My Oboro is... not the best...? At +Def/-HP; needless to say -Spd would be much better, but this does the job that I built her for, which is to survive long enough to bust people's faces with Ignis. The lack of Quickened Pulse is saddening but I feel like she needs the extra HP... BUT once she gets her 5* weapon when I have enough feathers to upgrade one of my Shanna, I'll probably swap over to QP. I ran calcs and Oboro (at least with my IV, not sure if having neutral HP would make much of a difference honestly) does better with Defense+3 than Atk+3 if you don't have access to Fury (or don't want all that chip damage during TT), surviving significantly more matchups and only losing a few kills VS Atk+3 IIRC. Also @Arcanite what are your thoughts on a pseudo-Effie sort of set with like Brave+ | Bonfire/Ignis | Death Blow/Sturdy Blow | QR | Threaten Def/etc ? Seems like her best bet for an offensive player phase set to me. If I had a +Atk Oboro I'd probably consider making something like that (if I get one maybe I'll merge them and have both options on the table lol...) Edited June 28, 2017 by BANRYU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, BANRYU said: Also @Arcanite what are your thoughts on a pseudo-Effie sort of set with like Brave+ | Bonfire/Ignis | Death Blow/Sturdy Blow | QR | Threaten Def/etc ? Seems like her best bet for an offensive player phase set to me. If I had a +Atk Oboro I'd probably consider making something like that (if I get one maybe I'll merge them and have both options on the table lol...) Someone pointed this out earlier, and I forgot to mention it in the OP! Just give me a second to do some other stuffs! 7 minutes ago, BANRYU said: I ran calcs and Oboro (at least with my IV, not sure if having neutral HP would make much of a difference honestly) does better with Defense+3 than Atk+3 if you don't have access to Fury (or don't want all that chip damage during TT), surviving significantly more matchups and only losing a few kills VS Atk+3 IIRC. I guess it's a case of more survivability vs. more murderousness. Atk +3 Gives more of an edge with an attack buff as well, just to note, while Def+3 can also make for some crazy sustain with a defense buff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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