We Need Serenes Forest Mafia Mafia 5 After All! - GAME OVER

[Percivalé]

@Iris / @SB. hypothetically if a faction is eliminated will it be announced

[Makaze]

Just now, Fable said:

People keep saying walrein is V and not saying why and it's super tilting. 

It's hard to explain, but I get the most town tone read off of him I have had on anyone this entire game. I can literally point to every post he has said and tell you that it feels genuine. I feel the same about you. You can accept it about you because you know your alignment. But Walrein is even more town than you, despite conributing pretty much nothing. I am not afraid to call out pings on anyone and I have none for Walrein.

I also think that a Snike flip would hardclear him if Snike is Mafia, but if Omega is ITP then we have to lynch him because of his claim. That is why a vig would come in handy.

[Beru]

3 minutes ago, Fable said:

People keep saying walrein is V and not saying why and it's super tilting. 

same

walrein doesn't like to play the game as mafia and will find 99999 excuses to get out of actually being itt

[Refa]

1 minute ago, Beru said:

same

walrein doesn't like to play the game as mafia and will find 99999 excuses to get out of actually being itt

i can buy it but it's worth noting that he's flaked all of his town games here as well

so sadly that in and of itself is not alignment indicative

[Makaze]

2 minutes ago, Beru said:

gaslighting has a dictionary definition, Makaze

I feel pretty good about it.

gas·light

ˈɡaslīt/

verb

gerund or present participle: gaslighting

1. manipulate (someone) by psychological means into questioning their own sanity.

    

    

[Fable]

2 minutes ago, Makaze said:

It's hard to explain, but I get the most town tone read off of him I have had on anyone this entire game. I can literally point to every post he has said and tell you that it feels genuine. I feel the same about you. You can accept it about you because you know your alignment. But Walrein is even more town than you, despite conributing pretty much nothing. I am not afraid to call out pings on anyone and I have none for Walrein.

I also think that a Snike flip would hardclear him if Snike is Mafia, but if Omega is ITP then we have to lynch him because of his claim. That is why a vig would come in handy.

This is a more tilting answer than no answer at all. 

[Makaze]

1 minute ago, Fable said:

This is a more tilting answer than no answer at all. 

lol

i can't fix everything

[Refa]

3 minutes ago, Makaze said:

But Walrein is even more town than you, despite conributing pretty much nothing.

Fable, you got duuuuuuuuuuunked on.

[Beru]

1 minute ago, Refa said:

i can buy it but it's worth noting that he's flaked all of his town games here as well

so sadly that in and of itself is not alignment indicative

F

[Fable]

Just now, Refa said:

Fable, you got duuuuuuuuuuunked on.

Not really.

I've pushed on wolves and tried to save villas and walrein has done literally nothing and every push mak has done has sucked so *shrug*. 

[Fable]

##Vote:Walrein 

[Makaze]

1 minute ago, Fable said:

Not really.

I've pushed on wolves and tried to save villas and walrein has done literally nothing and every push mak has done has sucked so *shrug*. 

Don't hate me because I'm beautiful.

[Makaze]

lol

[Refa]

1 minute ago, Fable said:

I've pushed on wolves and tried to save villas and walrein has done literally nothing

That's why it's so funny to me.  Also because Walrein is in my scum PoE.

[Makaze]

I'd like to understand why Walrein is in scum PoE

At first I was sure it was just Mafia expanding the PoE to easy targets but I don't think Refa would PoE him if he didn't have a reason

like

if someone can make a case other than "He hasn't helped the town"

im down

i just can't see it

[Makaze]

@Refa that's on you

time to case someone

[Makaze]

can't rely on me for this one

[Refa]

Just now, Makaze said:

@Refa that's on you

time to case someone

I did.  I'm voting him.

[Beru]

has Makaze had an accurate read on mafia that's flipped so far this game

[Refa]

Just now, Makaze said:

can't rely on me for this one

feels bad man

1 minute ago, Makaze said:

I'd like to understand why Walrein is in scum PoE

At first I was sure it was just Mafia expanding the PoE to easy targets but I don't think Refa would PoE him if he didn't have a reason

like

if someone can make a case other than "He hasn't helped the town"

im down

i just can't see it

I think his Arcanite jump was legitimately bad in retrospect.  He gets on after forever, jumps on Arcanite for a minor thing (!), when he gets called out on it he's like "well I didn't know that Arcanite acted that way" but doesn't bother to reevaluate his read at all, and doesn't really reevaluate any of Arcanite's content period.  What do you think of his Arcanite case?

The rest is just "he hasn't helped the town" though, sorry man.

[Makaze]

1 minute ago, Refa said:

I did.  I'm voting him.

i mean like

actually make a case lol

even at the most basic, i don't think you can get any associations if i am somehow wrong

what is the logic

[Makaze]

1 minute ago, Beru said:

has Makaze had an accurate read on mafia that's flipped so far this game

No.

[Refa]

1 minute ago, Makaze said:

i mean like

actually make a case lol

even at the most basic, i don't think you can get any associations if i am somehow wrong

what is the logic

I'm voting Athena and I did write like a whole paragraph on him!

If you're talking about Walrein, well I just wrote all I have on him.

[Percivalé]

walrein claimed me and i'm probably a scum role tbh

[Refa]

3 minutes ago, Beru said:

has Makaze had an accurate read on mafia that's flipped so far this game

btw you know who has scumread all of the flipped scum so far

YOU'RE LOOKING AT HIM

sheep me imo

1 minute ago, Vi-astra said:

walrein claimed me and i'm probably a scum role tbh

NGL, I was thinking "well, Eury/Shinori were both scum and they were a couple, why not Via/Manix too?????".