Rose482 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Cysx said: you wouldn't know about classes, gambits, crests, no weapon triangle, how skills work, how any of the monastery functions (including menial tasks or more important concepts such as venture gauge) the calendar would still be unexplained with the structure of one chapter/month, etc, etc. Again, I don't see a casual player caring about MOST if any of those things. I'm talking from what I'm seeing here, I have a group of friends who are into FE, but don't keep up with everything about FE16, and I don't see them wondering at all about how gambits/skills/the calendar/crests and such would work. While it's true that those things are also game elements, but knowing about them isn't as essential as some people might think. It might be important for you and some other people here to know about those kind of things, but I don't think the people that even come to SF are the causal type for the most part anyway. 2 hours ago, Cysx said: Remember that almost all of the Three Houses content on this site as well as >90% of discussion come from japanese reveals, that have been translated by fans I never said this wasn't the case, and I know FE16 doesn't have the perfect marketing, but I also know that labeling it as a game with bad marketing for not getting info about things like skills/crests/calendar/bios to be a bit too much here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cysx Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Rose482 said: Again, I don't see a casual player caring about MOST if any of those things. I'm talking from what I'm seeing here, I have a group of friends who are into FE, but don't keep up with everything about FE16, and I don't see them wondering at all about how gambits/skills/the calendar/crests and such would work. While it's true that those things are also game elements, but knowing about them isn't as essential as some people might think. It might be important for you and some other people here to know about those kind of things, but I don't think the people that even come to SF are the causal type for the most part anyway. I can completely agree that gameplay elements aren't something most people actively wonder about first. I mean, after reading so many thoughts about Three Houses from so many places, I'd have to be blind to think differently. That being said, it's not the full story either, and they can actually be very receptive to mechanics, as long as they're properly introduced to them. But, that needs to happen first. That's why showcasing those can be a really good idea, on top of showing that your game has depth(ideally) and legs. That's why I brought up Xenoblade 2. Would the game have sold as well if they didn't dive into the gameplay? It's not like the majority was asking, either. The same argument could be made for Smash Ultimate. Who was discussing frame data from trailers outside of the most hardcore fans? Yet, do you think the game would have sold as well with exclusively cg trailers? I doubt it, personally. So yeah, I don't think a lack of gameplay interest is the reasonable consequence of the limited advertising, but the opposite. 55 minutes ago, Rose482 said: I never said this wasn't the case, and I know FE16 doesn't have the perfect marketing, but I also know that labeling it as a game with bad marketing for not getting info about things like skills/crests/calendar/bios to be a bit too much here. I wonder, though. Sometimes, any info is good, you know? Edited July 4, 2019 by Cysx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose482 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Cysx said: I see what you mean, and yeah the more info, the better it is. That's why I said FE16's marketing isn't perfect considering just how much more info we could have had by now had they translated everything that was posted in Japan. And giving extra details about the game-play is never a bad thing, but I truly don't think someone would decide to buy this game after learning about how simple things like skills and such work, and I guess that's the point I'm trying to make here. I don't see anything that would make someone have a 180 turn on this game that wasn't translated officially and talked about or showed in a video by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 5 hours ago, Rose482 said: Again, I don't see a casual player caring about MOST if any of those things. I'm talking from what I'm seeing here, I have a group of friends who are into FE, but don't keep up with everything about FE16, and I don't see them wondering at all about how gambits/skills/the calendar/crests and such would work. While it's true that those things are also game elements, but knowing about them isn't as essential as some people might think. It might be important for you and some other people here to know about those kind of things, but I don't think the people that even come to SF are the causal type for the most part anyway. I'm about as hardcore a Fire Emblem fan as you get and even I've glossed over a lot of the Famitsu info. It feels like the kind of stuff you don't really need to know about until you're actually playing the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Karnage Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Rose482 said: I see what you mean, and yeah the more info, the better it is. That's why I said FE16's marketing isn't perfect considering just how much more info we could have had by now had they translated everything that was posted in Japan. And giving extra details about the game-play is never a bad thing, but I truly don't think someone would decide to buy this game after learning about how simple things like skills and such work, and I guess that's the point I'm trying to make here. I don't see anything that would make someone have a 180 turn on this game that wasn't translated officially and talked about or showed in a video by now. most of the time these are thing the game will ease you into, instead of being like the article and just saying what it does without the context of being in the game, you'll get first hand experience on how it works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cysx Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Rose482 said: And giving extra details about the game-play is never a bad thing, but I truly don't think someone would decide to buy this game after learning about how simple things like skills and such work, and I guess that's the point I'm trying to make here. I don't see anything that would make someone have a 180 turn on this game that wasn't translated officially and talked about or showed in a video by now. It's a lot to expect of a singular piece of information, to be fair. But there are people popping up now and then saying they haven't seen a lot but have no interest in highschool emblem, so, having your mind changed by gameplay details doesn't seem that impossible. It's not like I don't see your point though, I just disagree on superficial stuff at the end of the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentinel07 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Welp, I suppose at this point we can say so much for thinking they were going to talk about the 2nd half of the Black Eagles. I guess each house is going to get one video and that's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clathy Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 It's really weird. Why only show one half of a house ?! And not even the most "popular" characters of said house ?! It doesn't make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivy Wife Supremacy Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 47 minutes ago, Clathy said: It's really weird. Why only show one half of a house ?! And not even the most "popular" characters of said house ?! It doesn't make sense. Linhardt and Petra are pretty popular but they just want to give sample of characters while finding out the rest yourself at release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauke Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Dorothea Joestar Arnold said: Linhardt and Petra are pretty popular but they just want to give sample of characters while finding out the rest yourself at release. I still would have liked the Likes and Dislikes of the other four... sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentinel07 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Hauke said: I still would have liked the Likes and Dislikes of the other four... sad. Yeah, with how hilarious they were (Hubert liking coffee and irony), I would have loved to see how they did others (Bernadetta in particular). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timlugia Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Japanese commercial only shows 3 per house, at least it come with awesome main theme and RD style tag line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingle Jangle Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Spoiler Spoiler Did the Northern county of Sreng got annex/conquered over the time skip or that's a minor error? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 I'd bet it's a minor error. Graphic designer probably wasn't intimately familiar with the game. Sreng has until now been a separate country, and Gautier was specifically noted to be a border territory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ertrick36 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 I know it was three days ago and it's now Blue Lions week, but... They did post a wallpaper of sorts showing all the Black Eagles members. Still would've personally preferred getting a video showcasing the other members, but it is what it is. There's also this 30 second ad posted by the official Nintendo channel: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etrurian emperor Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 4 hours ago, Jingle Jangle said: Hide contents Hide contents Did the Northern county of Sreng got annex/conquered over the time skip or that's a minor error? Conquering his neighbors certainly seems something that older Dimitri would do. Also the color is a little bit different from Fergus which could indeed imply conquest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauke Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 14 minutes ago, Etrurian emperor said: Conquering his neighbors certainly seems something that older Dimitri would do. Also the color is a little bit different from Fergus which could indeed imply conquest. The colour is different because the countries outside of Fodlan have a darker colour on the map and the blue colour is only an overlay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Xavi_ Posted July 10, 2019 Author Share Posted July 10, 2019 Blue Lions Video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onestep Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Dimitri sounds like an absolute nerd. It's great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelaar Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 I REALLY love Dimitri's voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyHawlucha. Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Dimitri's voice is much better than I expected; tbh I don't know what I was expecting but I'm 100% picking Blue Lions now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingle Jangle Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 What's the deal with lords breaking things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firewitch912 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 It's interesting to see how similar Hubert and Dedue's dislikes are. I wonder if we'll get someone like that for Golden Deer? Maybe Hilda, since I seem to remember something about a rivalry Lorenz has with Claude, and those two are the most likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Book Bro Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Hey, that video made me way more interested in Dimitri, again. And his students are overall the most appealing design wise tbh. Maybe I'll just do 3 separate files at the same time to avoid having to choose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busterman64 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 (edited) Dimtri's voice is really good! I like it! Also, this line: "Oh Sylvain. We grew up together, except he became a bit of a...well...skirt chaser. We're working on that." I really like this line. It kinda puts how Dimitri feels about Sylvain without saying a lot. But it also makes him sound a bit more easy-going/ laid back when it comes to his friends...which is nice. ...the struggle to stay Firm with Golden Deer is real man... Edited July 10, 2019 by Busterman64 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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