DragonFlames Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Just now, Shrimperor said: Aside from the one azama time, you can work around them. And they all, aside from berserk, last only one turn, unlike 4-6 in usual FE You can by throwing units you don't need at them, yeah. Doesn't change my view that no restore staff was a dick move. 1 minute ago, Shrimperor said: Aside from illusions i found the gimmicks fun, especially since you can use them to your advantage! I didn't. Sorry. I found the gimmicks to be complete bullcrap in every map they appeared in. Sure, you knew what you were up against, but... ugh. Not fun for me. 3 minutes ago, Shrimperor said: Thracia time! Oh HELL NO! XD I tried Thracia. Never again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armagon Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Sonic Vtuber is real, I think it's time we blow up the planet. 3 minutes ago, Shrimperor said: Aside from illusions i found the gimmicks fun, especially since you can use them to your advantage Shrimpy's a Revelation fan confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rubenio Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 I will commit the unspeakable sin: I will defend the ambush spawns. ...Okay, look, I'd like it better if they weren't there, but in FE12 at least 9 times out of 10 they come out of forts, and the remaining 1 they're so far away there's no chance they'll get you in one turn. Soooo yeah. Ambush spawns bad, but not that bad in FE12. Just now, Shrimperor said: That wasn't the intention with Schera's attack at all. It's just zoomed in like everyone else's attack She's leaning forward, walking straight into the camera with her boobs (the others don't quite do that) and going "someone's been naughty~" I mean, c'mon. I know how much you love that game. But it's so obvious. 2 minutes ago, Sooks said: hy did you play the game then? I was told it'd be better than that. And it looked better than that. But it wasn't. For me to enjoy a RPG, it either needs super unique and interactive gameplay, or an absolute masterpiece of a story. Trails has neither. 3 minutes ago, Sooks said: Awakening is about a blue haired lord who wields falchion venturing through Archanea with an avatar who he feels is the second coming of Christ, with a zzz difficultly mode or three unfair, stupid difficultly modes while fe13 is about a blue haired lord who wields falchion ventuirng through Archanea with an avatar who he feels is the second coming of Christ, with a zzz or unfair, stupid difficult modes. Totally different games. You're right, FE13 and Awakening really are similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Armagon said: Sonic Vtuber is real, I think it's time we blow up the planet. 1 minute ago, Saint Rubenio said: I will commit the unspeakable sin: I will defend the ambush spawns. ...Okay, look, I'd like it better if they weren't there, but in FE12 at least 9 times out of 10 they come out of forts, and the remaining 1 they're so far away there's no chance they'll get you in one turn. Soooo yeah. Ambush spawns bad, but not that bad in FE12. Fair point. I hate ambushes, but fair point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armagon Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said: I will commit the unspeakable sin: I will defend the ambush spawns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename Shrimp Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 minute ago, DragonFlames said: You can by throwing units you don't need at them, yeah. Nah, you can work around them not suicide into them 2 minutes ago, DragonFlames said: ure, you knew what you were up against, It's not up against. It's using the gimmicks yourself. But i know you hate conquest so i will stop 2 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said: but in FE12 at least 9 times out of 10 they come out of fort Doesn't make any better at all. Still bullshit because you don't know when they appear and fe12 enemies are strong. Hence you either go full turtle (not fun) everytime a fort appears, or you use guide (even less fun). 4 minutes ago, Armagon said: Shrimpy's a Revelation fan confirmed. Hell no xD 5 minutes ago, DragonFlames said: I tried Thracia. Never again. Fe16 madenning then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonFlames Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said: Trails has neither. The thing that really threw me off about Trails in the Sky FC, it did the same stuff that bothered the hell out of me in Cold Steel 2 and 3. Main character needs a deus ex machina to save them Antagonist gets away Antagonist gets away, you pursue them, someone else catches them anyway. All these appear multiple times in the span of two in-game chapters. And it was at that point that I told myself "yeah, no. I won't put up with this crap for yet another trilogy. No thanks." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonFlames Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Shrimperor said: But i know you hate conquest so i will stop Sorry. 2 minutes ago, Shrimperor said: Fe16 madenning then! Based on everything I've heard... nah. xD Edited June 24, 2021 by DragonFlames Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rubenio Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Just now, Shrimperor said: Doesn't make any better at all. Still bullshit because you don't know when they appear and fe12 enemies are strong. Hence you either go full turtle (not fun) everytime a fort appears, or you use guide (even less fun). I'd like to argue this, but I've been playing FE12 for so long that I know all the spawns, so I'm biased. Meh. ...It has Matthis and Conquest doesn't. There, foolproof argument that it's the better game. 1 minute ago, DragonFlames said: The thing that really threw me off about Trails in the Sky FC, it did the same stuff that bothered the hell out of me in Cold Steel 2 and 3. Main character needs a deus ex machina to save them Antagonist gets away Antagonist gets away, you pursue them, someone else catches them anyway. All these appear multiple times in the span of two in-game chapters. And it was at that point that I told myself "yeah, no. I won't put up with this crap for yet another trilogy. No thanks." Well, I wouldn't know. I made it ten hours into the game before the bland coming-of-age adventure set up with the guild recommendation letters made me yawn and go "yeah let's move on to Yakuza." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename Shrimp Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 minute ago, DragonFlames said: deus ex machina ??? Â 2 minutes ago, DragonFlames said: Antagonist gets away They didn't even meet antagonists yet by the point you stopped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said: I will commit the unspeakable sin: I will defend the ambush spawns. ...Okay, look, I'd like it better if they weren't there, but in FE12 at least 9 times out of 10 they come out of forts, and the remaining 1 they're so far away there's no chance they'll get you in one turn. Soooo yeah. Ambush spawns bad, but not that bad in FE12. Oh my god, that sounds exactly like Awakening. Well. Fe12 bad even though I haven’t played it. 7 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said: You're right, FE13 and Awakening really are similar. Why thank you, at least someone else acknowledges IS’s internal numbering system. I mean, a Frost fans wouldn’t forget about BSFE, would he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename Shrimp Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Just now, Saint Rubenio said: but I've been playing FE12 for so long that I know all the spawns Kek 1 minute ago, Saint Rubenio said: ..It has Matthis Literally who Like most characters in Marth games anyway 😛 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonFlames Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Just now, Shrimperor said: ??? Cassius appears out of nowhere to save Estelle's butt from a monster she could've easily taken out on her own. Mild example, but it still qualifies for me. 1 minute ago, Shrimperor said: They didn't even meet antagonists yet by the point you stopped Josette and the gang? Schera even said "this (them getting away) is getting old." Without context? Cute lampshade. Knowing what singular note the series will play from this point on? A bad omen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Does fe12 use a lot of ambush spawns in rout maps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, DragonFlames said: The thing that really threw me off about Trails in the Sky FC, it did the same stuff that bothered the hell out of me in Cold Steel 2 and 3. Main character needs a deus ex machina to save them Antagonist gets away Antagonist gets away, you pursue them, someone else catches them anyway. All these appear multiple times in the span of two in-game chapters. And it was at that point that I told myself "yeah, no. I won't put up with this crap for yet another trilogy. No thanks." Yeah, that's definitely fair. It didn't bother me, but to each their own, of course. 2 minutes ago, Sooks said: Well. Fe12 bad even though I haven’t played it. Sounds about right for a lot of internet opinions. 😜 2 minutes ago, Shrimperor said: Like most characters in Marth games anyway 😛 1 minute ago, Sooks said: Does fe12 use a lot of ambush spawns in rout maps? I never felt like they were super oppressive, tbh. They were there, yes, but not like FE6 ambushes in number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename Shrimp Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Just now, DragonFlames said: Cassius appears out of nowhere to save Estelle's butt That's not even close to the definition of deux ex machina Cassius was in the same city watching his newbie daughter taking her first steps into the world 1 minute ago, DragonFlames said: "this (them getting away) is getting old." And they land in prison and their arc ends for now ends and Estelle moves on It's not even close to CS where after 2 games the enemy still goes "this isn't my final form!!!". This is the first step of a newbie bracer. She can't do everythimg right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Oh, the Summer Sale has begun? Hmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename Shrimp Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 minute ago, twilitfalchion said: Marth is a bad lord 😛 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Just now, Shrimperor said: Marth is a bad lord 😛 Oh no, looks like Chaos Prawnperor has returned. Spouting nonsense like that smh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venger_06 Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Â 17 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said: Oh, shit, the Steam summer sale has begun! Banner Saga is on discount until the 8th of July! You know what to do, everyone. Hey, look, it's Ruben's favorite genre! 20 minutes ago, DragonFlames said: I'd take ambush spawns over ninjas and the like, status staves you can do nothing about, stupid disruptive gimmicks that do nothing but be annoying (pots, winds, illusions), an overused song that gets incredibly old incredibly quickly and isn't even that good, and shitty, unlikeable (main) characters any day of the week. But that's just me. 9 minutes ago, DragonFlames said: The thing that really threw me off about Trails in the Sky FC, it did the same stuff that bothered the hell out of me in Cold Steel 2 and 3. Main character needs a deus ex machina to save them Antagonist gets away Antagonist gets away, you pursue them, someone else catches them anyway. All these appear multiple times in the span of two in-game chapters. And it was at that point that I told myself "yeah, no. I won't put up with this crap for yet another trilogy. No thanks." This... is not reassuring.... 6 minutes ago, Sooks said: Does fe12 use a lot of ambush spawns in rout maps? It's all Seize maps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonFlames Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 minute ago, twilitfalchion said: Yeah, that's definitely fair. It didn't bother me, but to each their own, of course. 2 minutes ago, Shrimperor said: That's not even close to the definition of deux ex machina Cassius was in the same city watching his newbie daughter taking her first steps into the world And they land in prison and their arc ends for now ends and Estelle moves on It's not even close to CS where after 2 games the enemy still goes "this isn't my final form!!!". This is the first step of a newbie bracer. She can't do everythimg right It probably wouldn't have bothered me so much if I hadn't played the Cold Steel games first, and they used this so wearily often that it became one of the things that really sours me on a story, no matter the context. Especially if it almost feels like it's the only note Trails can play. Use it once, fine, I can live with that. But when it happens after every single goddamned boss fight, then we have a problem on our hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Maof06 said: yoink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 PLAY BANNER SAGA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rubenio Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 17 minutes ago, Sooks said: Why thank you, at least someone else acknowledges IS’s internal numbering system. I mean, a Frost fans wouldn’t forget about BSFE, would he? ...okay, you win this round. 17 minutes ago, Shrimperor said: Literally who Like most characters in Marth games anyway 😛 Okay, now you're asking for war. Nobody disses my man Matthis. 16 minutes ago, Sooks said: Does fe12 use a lot of ambush spawns in rout maps? It has no rout maps. 10 minutes ago, Maof06 said: Hey, look, it's Ruben's favorite genre! C O R R I D A S 6 minutes ago, Sooks said: PLAY BANNER SAGA I concur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Why am I tempted to grab Banner Saga on PC just for Kivi? Why is that a thought that has entered into my mind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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