Serenes Forest's Teehee Thread

[Saint Rubenio]

23 minutes ago, Punished Dayni said:

Ivy took the song Every Rose has it's Thorns too literally.

A lot of people have taken everything too literally. "Every Rose has its Thorns" has spikes everywhere. "I'm quirky and childlike" literal clown with a heart on her cheek. "I'm the evil old man" Barlowe Von Karma. "I'm charming and cool" Claude with sneakers. "I'm a regular old guy" Is the most normal dude in the entire cast. This game seems to be on its way to have some of the most heavy-handed designs in the series. Which is fine because they at least remembered what beards look like

Just now, Imperator Squilla said:

Can Switzerland expose Brasil today?

Firene vs Solm

1 minute ago, Green06 said:

Conquest's Epilogue, The Coronation of King Xander:

Corrin: Many hoshidans died when I decided that my life with my dear siblings is more important than the lives of each of them. And your brothers too. That was a small price to pay for peace and my happiness.

Hinoka: Thank you for becoming a mass murderer for our sake. I promise I won't let this transgression go to waste.

Corrin: When I chose this path, I thought it would haunt me for the rest of my life. Imagine being responsible for an invasion of a country, which resulted in the slaughter of several innocent people and the death of my two blood brothers. But after much thought, I learned to forgive myself.

Sakura: Corrin, what a man you are!

Counterpoint: Corrin has the only cool dad in the series.

[Punished Dayni]

5 minutes ago, Green06 said:

The affection mechanic can completely ignored in Gen VII

Yeah, I was referring to Let's Go, I said Switch Pokemon titles earlier.

...........

Wait, Let's Go was 2018.

Shit, now I have to fix my edit.

4 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said:

A lot of people have taken everything too literally. "Every Rose has its Thorns" has spikes everywhere. "I'm quirky and childlike" literal clown with a heart on her cheek. "I'm the evil old man" Barlowe Von Karma. "I'm charming and cool" Claude with sneakers. "I'm a regular old guy" Is the most normal dude in the entire cast. This game seems to be on its way to have some of the most heavy-handed designs in the series. Which is fine because they at least remembered what beards look like

It's all okay because beard.

Understood.

[Lightcosmo]

42 minutes ago, Armagon said:

Ehhhhh

Sun and Moon did have lots of handholding, Sword and Shield was basically just a path from what people have said. But then Scarlet and Violet are like the farthest away from handholding the series has ever gotten.

It's really just a Gen 7 and 8 problem. Maybe Gen 6 too.

I was going off gameplay, and how i see it for example is how OR and AS literally give you Latios/Latias for free, or the free Mega Lucario in X/Y etc. Just giving the player that strong an option feels like handholding to me.

[Sooks]

Live a Live

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Now that I have Cube, I went back to that little village and did the trial of wisdom. I did it all on my own, without any guide, which made me feel like a genius.

Then I switched out Sundown for Bench again and continued on, using teleport at every random encounter because I decided I wanted to do the trial of heart now. Before I managed to teleport there, I found Pogo and recruited him by beating him up… somehow. I’m not sure how the group got across that they wanted to travel together, but yeah.

Then I did the trial of heart and it… wasn’t really noteworthy. I didn’t expect the mind reading to actually come back into play, so that was cool, I guess.

 

3 hours ago, Saint Rubenio said:

 

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The trial of keys is Oboromaru's trial. It is also the worst, least fun of the trials. Bench's trial at least serves to develop some characters you might not expect, but Oboro's is just boring. So there's that.

 

Wait, what? Did I miss something?

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I know the ghosts of all Oersted’s story’s characters showed up, but who got development? I don’t remember anyone saying anything that was that shocking for their character.

2 hours ago, Punished Dayni said:

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Poor Akira, I imagine if you had to play the SNES version he'd have driven you away from the game.

 

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Okay: I’ll bite. What’s so much worse about Akira’s chapter in the OG game?

 

[ping]

3 hours ago, Edelguardiansing said:

I was about to say "Wait, I'm on hard" but then I remembered that this game calls hard mode "normal mode"

Whoops, that is a case of miscommunication. I might have struggled to use the English language in a clear and precise manner, as one does. What I meant to suggest was...

• Click "hard" when playing Path of Radiance, since it's one of the easiest "hard modes" in the series. Maniac Mode is Japanese only (*)
• Click "normal", or even "easy", when playing Radiant Dawn. This is the game with the misnamed difficulty settings, where "normal" mode (as described in English) is plenty difficult.

Sorry about that, but if you're enjoying yourself, I hope that it doesn't matter.

(*)I used to think that this is an instance of "the Japanese think that Westeners are dumb-dumbs", similar to the first game localised in the west getting an overlong tutorial in Lyn mode. However, from all I've seen, Maniac PoR is just an awful experience, cranking up the negative aspects of the gameplay up to 11, so it's more likely that they were just correcting a mistake.

27 minutes ago, Green06 said:

Sakura: Corrin, what a man you are!

Look, the body count of the Chève massacre alone probably goes up to the hundreds, but on the other hand, Corrin was really sad that night, and honestly, isn't that the real tragedy?

[Saint Rubenio]

29 minutes ago, Punished Dayni said:

It's all okay because beard.

Understood.

I'll take what I can get. Remember back when the leaks were a thing and more than anything, it was Vandad's beard that made me lean towards fake because there was no way that was a design in modern Fire Emblem? I'll take Miss Porn Game Final Boss in exchange for that.

23 minutes ago, Sooks said:

Live a Live

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Now that I have Cube, I went back to that little village and did the trial of wisdom. I did it all on my own, without any guide, which made me feel like a genius.

Then I switched out Sundown for Bench again and continued on, using teleport at every random encounter because I decided I wanted to do the trial of heart now. Before I managed to teleport there, I found Pogo and recruited him by beating him up… somehow. I’m not sure how the group got across that they wanted to travel together, but yeah.

Then I did the trial of heart and it… wasn’t really noteworthy. I didn’t expect the mind reading to actually come back into play, so that was cool, I guess.

 

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Fun fact: If Lei is the lead character, Pogo joins without a fight. You can probably guess the reason.

 

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Wait, what? Did I miss something?

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I know the ghosts of all Oersted’s story’s characters showed up, but who got development? I don’t remember anyone saying anything that was that shocking for their character.

 

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Nah yeah that's what I was talking about. Mostly just Streibough realizing he's a dipshit. I just thought it was neat.

 

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Okay: I’ll bite. What’s so much worse about Akira’s chapter in the OG game?

 

 

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Akira was way weaker which made combat annoying, no text skipping meant you had to sit through the entire Tobei cutscene every single time you crafted something and I'm fairly certain you have to do the whole staircase shit multiple times. Really, just the ability to skip text made it so much more palatable. The stupid crafting...

 

7 minutes ago, ping said:

Look, the body count of the Chève massacre alone probably goes up to the hundreds, but on the other hand, Corrin was really sad that night, and honestly, isn't that the real tragedy?

Hans was happy.

Affordable losses, if you ask me.

Edited November 28, 2022 by Saint Rubenio

[Interdimensional Observer]

2 hours ago, Saint Rubenio said:

On the newest Engage news: I like how on they gave Ugly Old Man the title of Sage King, which is the same as Hayden. You know, Sacred Stones's most forgettable character?

Awakening, IIRC, gave the title to Leif as well, the epithet his happily ever after reign goes down in history with.

Which, given Thracia 776's "peculiarities", well I'm not entirely sure if they require sagacity, but T776 isn't one where brute strength quite so readily wins everything.

[Sooks]

7 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said:

 

 

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Fun fact: If Lei is the lead character, Pogo joins without a fight. You can probably guess the reason.

 

Ah… yeah. Wait, only if she’s the lead character? I thought he was hornier than that, does he not have peripheral vision?

7 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said:

 

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Akira was way weaker which made combat annoying, no text skipping meant you had to sit through the entire Tobei cutscene every single time you crafted something and I'm fairly certain you have to do the whole staircase shit multiple times. Really, just the ability to skip text made it so much more palatable. The stupid crafting...

 

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No but you see, the fact that you can upgrade items in Akira’s story is completely forced in and never matters at all. So it’s your fault for engaging with Akira’s story’s mechanics like they’re gonna be at all good.

I mean, Akira is boring to play as and all his battles and super easy, so it maybe it would’ve been better if he was weaker…

 

[Punished Dayni]

48 minutes ago, Sooks said:

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Okay: I’ll bite. What’s so much worse about Akira’s chapter in the OG game?

 

Aside from QoL around his chapter in the remake, he was worse to use in his scenario in the original, with lower stats and I think some of skills got buffed in the remake.

52 minutes ago, lightcosmo said:

how i see it for example is how OR and AS literally give you Latios/Latias for free, or the free Mega Lucario in X/Y etc. Just giving the player that strong an option feels like handholding to me.

If you think about it, that Latixs is meant as a way of getting around the region, it's just that they decided to let you catch it too because I guess they didn't want the player to be using pokemon they didn't have? Because that idea certainly has changed since Gen 6 that's for sure.

To compare in game events before E4/lategame with others, X/Y gives you a Kanto Starter that can Mega evolve, there's a level 15 Snorlax you can catch (after one badge, so it showing up this early I think I'll count) and there's a Lapras so you can surf. All in all, pretty dang happy to hand you nearly a full team to work with from the moment you're given them. There is also a fossil in this game, pretty early on as well.

ORAS gives you a fossil, Wynaut and Castform (same as RSE) while also adding a Togepi after the legendary, so if they treated the Lati like it SV's box legend there'd be no issue by that reckoning.

SM gives you a way to get a Zygarde on the third island (which will be a pain of backtracking to get), Eevee, Aerodactyl and Nebby. USUM removes the Zygarde before postgame but adds the Totem mons so if you've been collecting stickers you can get a bunch of pokemon that have modded heights and weights for doing the same thing as you would for the Zygarde. So not much handed to you in Alola unless you like the searching.

  BW gives the monkey and a Larvesta Egg if you go all the way home and surf. Oh, and the box legendary after the E4 I guess. I boxed it, I don't know about anyone else.BW2 gives a Zorua and a Deerling, which is even less generous, man Unova really telling you to catch it yourself.

DP gives you a Happiny and Riolu while Platinum swaps out Happiny for Eevee and adds a Porygon, which while some strong potential you still have to work at to unlock. Eevee is also a flexible option, so ti makes sense games keep picking it. HGSS has an Eevee, Dratini, Togepi, Tyrogue if you go looking for it, there's also a Spearow and Shuckle you're supposed to give to people but can keep (Hell, if you evolve Kenya in this game you'll be given it back if you deliver it!) and a Tentacool you can be given if you only have one pokemon full stop. So Jhoto is generous, but less so if you're not a thief or never want to go into Mt. Mortar (which, fair)

Looking at FRLG, there's the Magikarp for sale, an Eevee, two shots at the Snorlax, one of the Hitmons, Lapras and two fossils. That's a lot of event mons. As gen 6 references half of these I blame Kanto for Kalos being as generous as it is.

TLDR: Gen 6 is particularly generous, but not uniquely so.

32 minutes ago, ping said:

so it's more likely that they were just correcting a mistake.

Are we calling Maddening less of a mistake?

Edited November 28, 2022 by Punished Dayni

[ping]

1 minute ago, Punished Dayni said:

Are we calling Maddening less of a mistake?

I 'unno, I didn't play 3H

[Acacia Sgt]

3 hours ago, Punished Dayni said:

Is that long by SRW standards?

Only if counting the DLC and Special scenarios. Otherwise, SRW T having 54 chapters is "average".

1 hour ago, Green06 said:

😏

Why does it look like the devs put a title with a double entendre?

It's Haman, what did you expect.

 

[Lightchao42]

It's almost 2023 and we're still talking about Fates's plot, *insert Z here*.

3 hours ago, Saint Rubenio said:

On the newest Engage news: I like how on they gave Ugly Old Man the title of Sage King, which is the same as Hayden. You know, Sacred Stones's most forgettable character?

They're not even trying with this stooge. He's such an obvious non-entity I'm shocked he even features in trailers at all. #JusticeForElders

Oh wait right Vandad, I can't complain

Nah he's evil, so he'll probably get decent screentime.

1 hour ago, Armagon said:

But then Scarlet and Violet are like the farthest away from handholding the series has ever gotten.

Reminds me of the "intended" level order.

[Armagon]

1 hour ago, Saint Rubenio said:

100%. I would be shocked if this doesn't happen.

I will say there might be some possibility he could live. His description states he seeks knowledge and wisdom, noble traits that'd be odd to assign to a villain. I will back this up with images

We have this meting at what is presumably an Elusian church. Halcynth is there with Hortensia and before them are Alear, Alfred, Diamant, Marth and some girl we don't know. Notably, Timerra isn't here and this encounter doesn't appear to be hostile. Whether this takes place before or after Diamant's dad gets written off the census, idk but i want to say it's after. Here's why

The bridge map with the Hortensia fight does not feature any Solm characters.

But showcases with Elusian units do show Solm units with them. We also know Ivy joins at Lv.1

which either means she's an Est, which is extremely weird for a plot-prominent character, or she joins early and likely before Timerra, which seems more plausible.

Timerra is Lv.19 in this showcase but unpromoted.

Only problem with this theory is that this screenshot

has a promoted Timerra and it's the same map with the Lv.1 Ivy.

So it's either dev stuff, Timerra joins before Ivy and the latter is an Est or grinding. The map itself is Firine on fire so shit has already gone down here.

Tl;dr Halcynth probably dies but he might not be that bad after all.

1 hour ago, lightcosmo said:

OR and AS literally give you Latios/Latias for free

Soaring

1 hour ago, lightcosmo said:

or the free Mega Lucario in X/Y etc

Why wouldn't they give you the shiny new gimmick they advertised?

You can't Mega Evolve up until that point anyways, even if you did get the free Torhic.

7 minutes ago, Lightchao42 said:

Reminds me of the "intended" level order.

They def should've scaled levels because a trainer with a Lv.54 Mismagius almost wiped my team (i quit the game so he wouldn't).

[Lightcosmo]

Pokemon G/S/C in a nutshell:

"You can create the Moon Ball, which lets you catch mons that evolve using Moon Stone easier!"

except it increases the catch rate on mons that are evolved using Burn Heal... which is zero. XD

[Punished Dayni]

"Akshualy, she'sh ahn ahdoul-"

3 minutes ago, Armagon said:

They def should've scaled levels because a trainer with a Lv.54 Mismagius almost wiped my team (i quit the game so he wouldn't).

Saw some footage where the league has a level 15 trainer and then a trainer with a level 55 behind them.

Are we sure Shouzo "Balance is my passion" Kaga wasn't involved?

4 minutes ago, Armagon said:

Soaring

With SV out now it's clear we could have had the capture delayed, but it's not an issue to me when I just box it anyway.

[Lightcosmo]

Y'know, i never knew XC2 had EXP + SP gains on finding Landmarks, the more you know. 

[Armagon]

1 minute ago, Punished Dayni said:

With SV out now it's clear we could have had the capture delayed, but it's not an issue to me when I just box it anyway.

There's also lore reasons why you don't just get to send out the box legendary right away in SV. Kora/Miraidon are not at full strength when you meet them and part of the story is helping them get it back. By eating Herba Mystica. HMs. Get it?

[Punished Dayni]

Just now, Armagon said:

There's also lore reasons why you don't just get to send out the box legendary right away in SV. Kora/Miraidon are not at full strength when you meet them and part of the story is helping them get it back. By eating Herba Mystica. HMs. Get it?

I'm saying similar could have been done for the Lati. Again, not that it matters to me in gameplay terms when I try to avoid using legendaries.

And yes, I get it.

[Saint Rubenio]

55 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

Awakening, IIRC, gave the title to Leif as well, the epithet his happily ever after reign goes down in history with.

Which, given Thracia 776's "peculiarities", well I'm not entirely sure if they require sagacity, but T776 isn't one where brute strength quite so readily wins everything.

Interesting.

46 minutes ago, Sooks said:

Ah… yeah. Wait, only if she’s the lead character? I thought he was hornier than that, does he not have peripheral vision?

I'm not 100% sure, because I had her as my lead and I don't remember exactly back in the original.

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No but you see, the fact that you can upgrade items in Akira’s story is completely forced in and never matters at all. So it’s your fault for engaging with Akira’s story’s mechanics like they’re gonna be at all good.

I mean, Akira is boring to play as and all his battles and super easy, so it maybe it would’ve been better if he was weaker…

 

Hahahaha... Ahh, I do enjoy the salt. It is nice.

27 minutes ago, Lightchao42 said:

It's almost 2023 and we're still talking about Fates's plot, *insert Z here*.

Fates is the true deepest FE.

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Nah he's evil, so he'll probably get decent screentime.

I highly doubt it. FE isn't known to give its villains much time in the spotlight, and he just doesn't look like the kind that gets much attention. There's already Team Rocket led by the porn game character, this guy looks like fodder.

18 minutes ago, Armagon said:

I will say there might be some possibility he could live.

Tl;dr Halcynth probably dies but he might not be that bad after all.

Make up your mind

Anyway, I choose to believe Hyacinth dies after two cutscenes of being evil, because after the greatest story ever written since Tellius featured Those Who Slither In Irrelevance, it would be silly to have any higher hopes. IntSys is incapable of giving Ugly Old Men any sort of depth or interesting sides to them.

I do feel you make some good points. While "extreme pursuit of knowledge for the sake of power" is a very generic evil motivation, wisdom usually doesn't factor into the equation. I do, however, think taking the levels of the characters at face value is inadvisable, as there are enough discrepancies that it's safe to assume they've been manipulated for the trailers. So Ivy being level 1 is something I'd take with a grain of salt.

Of course, another matter is what I want. I want him to join, duh. But I seriously doubt it. They already have one old man, imagine having two. How silly would that be?

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[Armagon]

7 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said:

Make up your mind

Gotta constantly change it to keep people on their toes.

8 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said:

I do, however, think taking the levels of the characters at face value is inadvisable, as there are enough discrepancies that it's safe to assume they've been manipulated for the trailers. So Ivy being level 1 is something I'd take with a grain of salt.

That is true. Like i said, i think it'd be odd if Ivy ends up being an Est so it's probably just dev stuff (especially since Hortensia is Lv.19 unpromoted and has lower stats than her lv.1 sis and if we take that at face value, that means Hortensia's dogshit).

Either way, i'd be shocked if Ivy and the rest don't join us by like Ch.12 at the latest

She's there with everybody else in the pillar map which i'm guessing is the end of Act 1 or something (it aesthetically matches the place where Lumiere becomes a hashtag).

[Sooks]

27 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said:

Hahahaha... Ahh, I do enjoy the salt. It is nice.

Aren’t you supposed to want me to love every part of this game to bits and pieces?

[Saint Rubenio]

16 minutes ago, Armagon said:

Gotta constantly change it to keep people on their toes.

Trickster.

16 minutes ago, Armagon said:

That is true. Like i said, i think it'd be odd if Ivy ends up being an Est so it's probably just dev stuff (especially since Hortensia is Lv.19 unpromoted and has lower stats than her lv.1 sis and if we take that at face value, that means Hortensia's dogshit).

Either way, i'd be shocked if Ivy and the rest don't join us by like Ch.12 at the latest

She's there with everybody else in the pillar map which i'm guessing is the end of Act 1 or something (it aesthetically matches the place where Lumiere becomes a hashtag).

Look at all those alive people. You can really tell they are all anime teens without children.

2 minutes ago, Sooks said:

Aren’t you supposed to want me to love every part of this game to bits and pieces?

Not really, considering even I don't do that lol. I love this game. Doesn't mean it's perfect or that everyone's going to like it.

[BrightBow]

5 hours ago, Imperator Squilla said:

And here I thought IS blew it's load early with Colgate-chan and Pepsiman. Hats off to the mad genius responsible. This is pure beauty.

[BrightBow]

34 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said:

I highly doubt it. FE isn't known to give its villains much time in the spotlight, and he just doesn't look like the kind that gets much attention. There's already Team Rocket led by the porn game character, this guy looks like fodder.

Well, they had Hans stick around for the entire game. Despite looking and acting like a chapter 1 bandit boss.

[Armagon]

3 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said:

You can really tell they are all anime teens without children.

IntSys just called, they saw this post. They told me that they'll be adding child units and their hyperbolic time chambers into this game.