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So where are you so far? In the 50-55 minute range? I think you can possibly break 2h15 if not 2 hours flat.

You should be able to triangle attack even if they're beside each other as long as they're not also beside a wall.

Why are you using Lyn? She's going to be really terrible lategame without promo. Yeah supports, but let's face it, nobody in her support square is going to be a boss-killer. Same with Eliwood; I find he doesn't pick up until after promo. I don't expect Florina to be very good combat-wise either, though she'll probably have utility uses. Same with Fiora. I would give Canas any Energy Rings (do you even get any in HNM?) and Sain any Speedwings. They're probably your best boss-killing bets, with Luna/good offence. Personally I'd also use Raven because I'm pretty sure he'd have the best STR/SPD combo at 20 out of all units, and he can also slot in for a triangle with Priscilla and Lucius (whom I'd also consider using btw- no Luna or Nosferatanking like Canas but he pulls quite good MAG/SPD). If you're going to use all three sisters; I'd just have them support each other. Giving a support to Hector is kind of useless since by the time he really wants it, he's going to be off-limits. Also then you can TRIANGLE ATTACK.

I actually prefer Sacae because the maps are slightly smaller and Miledy wrecks it just as hard.

Well with PiG I thought that since it was OC, people might want more time to discuss actions and whatnot. I don't see much point for 48 hour night phases in NoC though, especially when there's no night-talking.

The excuse is what's the need? Enemies suck for the most part, and why the hell do I want to waste two hours arena abusing when I could beat several chapters in that time?

Also mafia qt if people really want it: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/XNsPtxmw4UD4 but as Eclipse said, we didn't use it very much and after Vhaltz died we stopped even posting Skype logs in there so yeah.

I've been thinking of hosting an offsite anon invitational with players from both SF and MotK, called Vigilante Mafia, somewhere between 14-16 players. Would people be cool with that? Setup is still in basic stages atm so won't be for a while but yeah.

On MotK, the last few games have had 48 hour D1s and 72 hours for the rest of the days, and I really don't find that it works, especially for Day 1. Shorter phases don't mean that people screw around less, it just means that when time comes to consolidate, you're even less certain.

I'd be the Sigurd archetype; the guy who comes at the beginning of the game and kicks everybody's ass and also has a horse. And then people get jealous and betray me.

It says he's the puppet. That doesn't tell us he's mafia-aligned. Unless you mean the part where it says "Nurse Joy counts as one mafia member" but seeing as Kaoz was also Nurse Joy, we are very obviously going to assume that refers to him and not Manix. Yeah, it was a fun game in the end for me too even if the end really bummed me. @Refa- Manix was apparently actually mafia-aligned.

Also there was literally no reason to Manix actually being a mafia Puppet instead of a town Puppet. He didn't know he was mafia and we didn't know he was mafia and there was no mechanism in the game to let either of us know he was actually mafia-aligned. So he would be silenced and killed at the end basically 100% of the time for the extra kill. And Kirsche should win Mafia MVP IMO; he was the only reason the game got to LYLO. Also Venno had really good Cop targets that took away two people who could easily have been mislynched. Probably not Shin in the end since Vig, but Elie getting cleared sucked.

Poly played well at the end, but tbh there was nobody else that was available to push a lynch on other than him. I don't regret my choice of leaving him alive. I came out hard-defending Shinori because his role + interactions were the best. Somehow people were ignoring that on D5, but I couldn't just 180 on Shinori that quickly. I kind of had to 180 on Poly too but at least that wasn't as fast as it would have been with Shinori. Scorri's role was too dangerous to leave alive and Shin was clear. The dumb thing with the Co-Drivers was, if we didn't kill either, they were basically Masons because they could back each other up on being confirmed town to each other. The only reason Refa was even a slightly viable lynch was because we killed SB before they fullclaimed, and the part about them being confirmed town to each other got snipped. Also I have no idea how people think this game was mafsided. I can see complaints about Kaoz's role being unfun or lame, but it definitely wasn't strong.

well it's already been established that I don't read

Could you try to copy SFMM2 any more? confirming

so close

lol that is clearly an attempt to avoid having to explain your actions wait a sec Shinori, if the same person targeted Refa twice, would that show up as one person or two?

but like FYPOV it made no difference whether I got vigged and Shinori got scanned or vice versa. dunno why but it gives me the feeling that you specifically wanted to be in a 1v1 with Shinori rather than me.

I hope that by ending the game you mean winning the game, because you know, voting either of us would end it atm.

Poly, why did you want me vigged so badly yesterday? I mean, even FYPOV, Shinori could still have been scum. Yet every scenario you presented involved vigging me.

Anyways I don't really see a point to not voting Poly at this point. ##Vote: Polydeuces Wait a sec Shinori, if Refa self-drove, then you must have gotten driven to him yourself. Who did you originally target?

Well Refa said that he could target himself IIRC. And also that he became full driver after SB died, though that doesn't seem to have been directly reflected in his role PM.

Why did you think there was a hidden player?

Hmm, I wanted to know if Poly could get advice from dead teammates or not. Namely Paperblade, because if Fakeclaim taught me anything other than to lynch Elie after he goes through more than two iterations of his claim, it's that Paperblade is pretty good at telling people exactly what to say. But then I'm not sure if Paperblade would be able to talk to Poly after subbing out. Rule 26 bro

Eclipse, are scum allowed to talk to their buddies after they die?