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Refa

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  1. 2 minutes ago, Magnificence Incarnate said:

    Kinda want to lynch between claire/weiner. Claire because she made a post at one point where she said she didn't get why fenrir was getting voted but was OK with the wagon, which is easy to handwave if you're scum, and weiner because he's doing the thing again where he doesn't commit to a stance on mitsuru/duskfall and hedges a lot on that and stays off the main wagon while not really commenting on it. 

    I don't really want to vote anyone on the fenrir wagon because the idea that scum bussed kinda comes out of no where,  gun to head I'd say likely busser is some late voter like shinori/fleet but I don't really like voting then off of speculations of what the scum team was doing. 

    I'm getting the feeling that darth roxas is one of those people who wants to be sure with their vote and wants to have a feel for which argument is stronger to vote for so ehhhhh I'd rather not vote him. 

    @Duskfall98 why didn't you support a fenrir lynch earlier/if you think claire isn't scum now who is likely to be scum and why?  

    @Refa thoughts on my reads in this post,  I'm kinda weirded out that I trd non wagoners easily like ichigo/darth. Give me a good argument for why you think that scum bussed because I'm not seeing it, at least the idea that they consciously went after fenrir seeing him as a sunken ship. You had half the game on minority wagons/not voting, there wasn't even a counterwagon established. 

    Actually scratch what I said about weiner earlier, there's probably at least one scum in duskfall/claire/weiner and I'd rather lynch in there today,  I don't think tunneling on each other the entire day without really talking about fenrir, the main wagon of the day, strikes as town to me. 

    ##vote: @Mitsuru Kirijo

    Talk to me about weiner/duskfall, how have your reads developed on them in relation to the fenrir flip and in a magical world where they're town who else would you think is scum? 

    Only replying to points I disagree with or have something interesting to say to save both of our time.

    Fair enough on Claire/Weiner. I don't really have a townread on either, so I can get where you're coming from, but what changed your mind on Claire's indignation being town? Why do you think she's scummier than Weiner, because I'm not seeing the reasoning here.

    Can you explain why you don't think scum bussed? If your reasoning is good enough, we've kind of broken the day LMAO. I agree that scum bussing would be in the later votes, but I'm mostly just bothered by Shinori/Fleet individually and can see why they'd vote Fenrir as scum. Well, bothered is probably putting it too strongly but they feel like they've been active lurking and I really don't get what either of them is doing. Read what I said earlier about voting Fleet though.

    I have a gut townread on Darth Roxas, so...agreed. I think my only real issue is it feels like he's getting ignored (would be a very easy vote for scum to make), which I don't get but I also don't really want to hold it against him.

    Well, I'm being dumb and you're town. I kind of want more elaboration because I can see where you're coming from WRT Duskfall/Claire/Weiner. What's your issue with Duskfall?

    Hmmm...Too lazy to reread, but my main issues with Soup is that it feels like he's making cases and such without really impacting the gamestate? I guess that's why I'm fine with Duskfall despite some questionable plays. It felt like he was doing the opposite to me. Am I being wrong here?

  2. There could potentially be a third party in this game. I wouldn't work off of that assumption just because it's harder to catch a 3rd party, so just go after people you think are scummy on their own merits if the flips didn't give you any new scumreads.

  3. Nuxl dying is pretty depressing because he was the one doing most of the talking. I don't hate the Shinori wagon. Fire Fleet isn't a bad vote but feels kind of boring after a scum lynch to me.

    @DarthR0xas Where's your head at currently? I don't remember having any major issues with you but it feels like you've kind of slipped under everyones' radar and would like to improve my read on you.

    @Duskfall98 Thoughts on Supa/Mitsuru? Asking because you said you thought there was scum on your wagon, and I know Fen flipped scum but like...am wondering how likely scum counterwagoning you would be FYPOV. I don't really have any issues with either of them individually so it's like...I kind of want to buy the narrative that scum just let Fenrir sink and bussed him, but wanted to know where your head was at.

    Everyone else that I haven't mentioned or voted is cool in my books.

    ##Vote: @Magnificence Incarnate

  4. 57 minutes ago, Duskfall98 said:

    Because the first two were true, though it f Fenrir flips town it's possible two scum are on him.

    BTW if I die and Fenrir flips scum, look at Marth next. Actually look at him next anyways, this level of activity is uncanny from Town!Marth.

  5. No problem, bro! I'll be here to mildly inconvenience you all week. 

    I feel like thread kind of died because it settled into a Fenrir lynch and the person in question isn't really posting much. I don't know his meta at all so uh...not sure what to make of that. And people like Marth/Claire/hal/Ichigo/Shinori haven't really been posting much lately (Claire is understandable because yeah) so that's like 1/3 of the game.

  6. 1 hour ago, Duskfall98 said:

    Right now I'm pretty sure there's exactly one scum on me, 1 scum on Fenrir and 1 scum not voting. 

    Pretty sure there is someone on me still but definitely not multiple because 2 scum wouldn't stay on a failing wagon this long I don't think? 

    I can get the first two, but why do you think there's a scum not voting?

  7. 53 minutes ago, ULTRA PRODIGY NUXL said:

    Kinda inferred his angleshoot read was related to Weiner boy

    Thanks though you're really grabbing up that nuxl towncred!!

    Oh, didn't even think of that.

    I wanna be the town guy!

  8. 3 hours ago, ULTRA PRODIGY NUXL said:

    Where this come from

    Sheeped Athena's read and Fire Fleet's response did not improve my opinion there.

    3 hours ago, ULTRA PRODIGY NUXL said:

    Yo can this site like... not give me alerts for every tab I have of this open

    Free towncred for anyone that answers this:
    Is Shinori's "content" this page AI?
    Has Mitsuru not caught up due to an IRL circumstance before?
    Is Marth's readlist into dip AI

    Nope. Shinori is the rare type who enjoys playing scum more than town, so even a late entrance isn't indicative of demotivation.

    I wouldn't know, but I assume this is what Ichigo meant when he was talking about angleshooting.

    With Marth, you can just judge by the logic. If his points are good and when asked to change/expand on his reads, you can understand the progression there he's town. For me, it's easy to see when he's scum because while he can make good list posts as scum, his interactions afterwards read as fake to me. So uh...keep an eye out for those.

  9. 1 minute ago, Shinori said:

    A question I was asking in general.

    Who's scum? Tell me so I can read them.

    People in the spotlight: Duskfall, Fenrir

    People who aren't in the spotlight but are getting scumread and are worth reading: Fire Fleet, Weinerboy

    People I'm scumreading: Fenrir, Fire Fleet

  10. Well, I can get where you're coming from at least. I don't really know what to say here because like...I can get where you're coming from and it's valid reasoning, but I don't think I agree with it. That's probably a frustrating reaction from me but I guess analyzing his future posts and see if it's like...if the contradictions you're seeing are evidence of scum intent.

    I thought Marth's first post looked good, whoops! Not gonna lie, I was happy to see that he was the one sheeping me for once.

  11. 31 minutes ago, ULTRA PRODIGY NUXL said:

    Dusk Weiner probably tvt 

    If ever tvs I think it'd be weiner

    @Refa Thoughts

    I'm not bothered by either of them so I'd buy it for now. Curious about Supa's thoughts on Duskfall though since he seems really sure and I feel like he's the type of guy who has something when he is sure.

  12. 57 minutes ago, weinerboy said:

    Check this out
    @Refa

    What in particular?

    48 minutes ago, weinerboy said:

    Wouldn't lynch today -
    Refa, Darth, Athena, Me!!!

    Would need to be convinced to lynch -
    Ichigo, Shinori, Nuxl

    No strong opinion -
    Mitsuru, hal, Marth (literally hasnt posted wtf)


    Concerned about -
    Fleet, Fenrir

    Would lynch -
    Duskfall

    Now that I won't get lynched D1, I can easily cruise until D2. Well, I was doing that anyways.

    I don't know where to put this but I just want to add that I don't think Ichigo asks if he can angleshoot as scum. I want to see where he goes with that because angleshooting isn't a thing on SF, but that was my initial impression there. Why is Shinori there though? I don't remember him doing anything.

    I guess I'm just demotivated because I don't really think I'm getting scumreads out of the exchanges with you/Nuxl/Duskfall. Can you elaborate on your Duskfall read more, since you seem hella sure but I'm kind of checked out here. What made you feel better about Nuxl?

  13. @Athena_57 How strongly did you feel the difference between Fire Fleet's last game and this one? I'd sheep your case without this, but I think that difference is what uh...differentiates this to me from an easy scum lynch (I don't see Scum!Fire Fleet being very good at replicating his town meta from the first game) or uh a scumread.

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