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  1. 1 minute ago, ULTRA PRODIGY NUXL said:

    were there any interactions in particular you were concerned about or about the 4-5 of us overall?

    It's kmore of a gut read but uh...I'd expect more conflict there if everyone was town. Like, FMPOV, Claire/Dusk were arguing with each other, you agreed w/Dusk's points but thought that they were NAI, Fenrir agreed with Dusk's points but stood on the side, and Supa agreed with Claire's points but he was picking at you instead (it didn't really feel like he was pressuring Dusk). I don't know how to elaborate on this more even though it definitely needs it.

  2. Okay, read everything and I'm definitely on the money WRT Fenrir. Like, he asks people questions about things but it doesn't feel like he's getting anything out of those questions or has like...any reads, which is scummy considering the amount of interactions he's had. Duskfall is probably town sorry for my bullshit BTW. Not really from his responses to me (I can see town jumping there just as easily as scum, so that part doesn't change my read on him), but on my reread I liked how his thought process on Claire changes from the rest of his posts; doesn't feel forced to me. Interested in seeing Mitsuru's read progression on Duskfall because that'll help my read on her. No one else really stands out.

    @weinerboy What's your actual read on Nuxl? Asking because he's a null for me, but you seem to be bothered by him and also aren't voting him so...pretty good question on my part IMO.

    ##Unvote

    ##Vote: @Fenrir Aesir

  3. Just now, ULTRA PRODIGY NUXL said:

    ok thanks. so im assuming outside of Roxas and Flee Flight, everybody else on the PL has some level of experience?

    Yeah, pretty much.

    1 minute ago, Duskfall98 said:

    I hate the quoting so much :(: it won't let me shorten it down.

    Anyways do you think me saying you being from a different timezone completely makes the line of questioning irrelevant now despite it being a relatively obvious answer? (Also if it wasn't an obvious answer you would've said something similar regardless)

    Nah, I'm moreso thinking that you could have waited until I responded and then Mitsuru explained herself before questioning her.

    @Magnificence Incarnate What did you think about the interactions on the last few pages? It kind of felt...too clean to me? And I don't know if it's like scum buddying town or scum forcing interactions with each other but it feels like scum was in there. My first guess is Fenrir but HMU if you think there's anyone different.

    (still rereading will vote then)

  4. @ULTRA PRODIGY NUXL Not late but the only SFers here are Athena, Roxas (I don't think he's played a mafia game here before though), Flee Flight (has played one game before, I don't remember the game but SB probably should), Marth, me, and Shinori. Marth is really good, Shinori is decent but can be tunnely as town (better as scum IMO), and my low self esteem prevents me from praising myself ask Marth if you want to know how good I am heh.

    1 minute ago, Duskfall98 said:

    I'm willing to pressure someone just for the sake of discussion and see where it takes us, it's probably the best way to get a good read on someone imo.

    That's fine but surely you would have gotten more if I responded and she explained her line of questioning? Like...I'm not seeing the town benefit here.

     

  5. Just now, ULTRA PRODIGY NUXL said:

    meh i thought more people would take issue/question my "dusk town" comment

    In the last game, someone townread me because I invited them and someone else townread me because my pfp was hot. So uh...that's the kind of forum you're playing on haha.

    1 minute ago, Duskfall98 said:

    You don't always need to scumread someone to pressure them you scumread someone because of how they reacted to you pressuring them imo.

    You don't need too, which is why I'm not really scumreading you for it yet. I want to know what your thought process was there before making any conclusions.

    In particular, I'm wondering why you wanted to pressure her before I made a response.

  6. Actually, this isn't related to Duskfall at all so I can just say it now but the one who's bothering me the most is Fenrir. I should make sure that I'm not being an idiot here but from my first read, it felt like he was commenting on the situation regarding Duskfall/Claire a lot but never felt like he was committing to any opinions. Going to vote there if he doesn't look better on a reread.

  7. 1 minute ago, Duskfall98 said:

    Well I didn't scumread her till I interacted with her further later down the line, don't know if you have read that far yet?

    I've "read' (skimmed through) everything. Anyways, I don't get why you pressed her initially then. If you thought her questioning of me was scummy then I'd get it, but right now it seems like you attacked her because ???.

  8. @Mitsuru Kirijo That uh was my explanation. I didn't put any more thought into it haha. I don't think people questioning me on it is bad; I would be bothered if people scumread me for it (unless it made sense from their point of view I guess), but I never got that impression so whatever.

    @Duskfall98 Are you scumreading Mitsuru or Ichigo? Or rather, were you when you defended me since I'm just noticing a vote on her now.

    Fire Fleet is a new player, people should skim his last game because IMO his logic here is not particularly alignment indicative EVEN THOUGH I think it's bad.

     

     

  9. 1 minute ago, Athena_57 said:

    Is it? I was working off my own meta here lmao. I think in training me/bart had a similar interaction as bart/amy here and then I was like whatever I'll vote w/ you. Maybe it is just scummy in general :thinking: Would appreciate 3rd/4th opinions from others here!

    Also, do you still want me to do me when I tell you I was trying to read into you alphabetically ordering your ping-questions?

    I'm not going off of meta here cause I've never had a great meta read on Bart's alignment personally. I'm uh assuming he was town in Training. What do you think about my other points?

    Kind of reluctant to drop this read because it's my strongest conviction in this game and I'm reading most of the playerbase as null (not even town!!).

    It's okay if you drive me crazy as long as you're town. Just ask Conq.

  10. I thought Evan was in this game and was like "Evan lurking hard is pretty scummy" until I checked the OP hahaha. I think most people have done enough for me to have some impression on them (not like...a read but I can explain where their head is at) except Dunn and Jordan. @Fenrir Aesir Please get Jordan to post help.

  11. 39 minutes ago, Athena_57 said:

    Okay I tried this but didn't actually find anything spectacular in either his town or scum games so I'm just going to call it scummy in a vacuum. But I also still think stopping the conversation w/ Amy and voting Claire there looks more like a townie that wants to get some pressure going than scum that wants to shut down the argument.

    So... mild town?

    I think that's scummy haha. You do you, though.

  12. 1 hour ago, Ampharos said:

    Have y'all met me? I'm a self conscious person in general.

    expect more when I get home

    I don't think being self conscious is that scummy because of stuff like this but it's what bothers me the second most (and Bartozio has enough pressure).

    52 minutes ago, Athena_57 said:

    I think the word kneejerk is very much accurate, it was also bc my two co-wagoners were people I had a "bad-ish vibes but maybe just null"-read on and I was like maybe it's a bad idea to vote Bart over tone/style when that's what often catches him flak. I'm going to read back some games w/ him to see whether I can find the condescendingness in his towngames or not and will get back to you

    Thanks, boss.

    49 minutes ago, Vi-astra said:

    refa are you town

    answer honestly 

    Hell yeah I am.

  13. 12 hours ago, Ampharos said:

    I'm side-eyeing this post.

    Who wants to try to guess why?

    10 hours ago, Ampharos said:

    why must you hurt me in this way

    You may have the wrong impression of my read, so let me enunciate more clearly.

    If Claire was legitimately looking to jumpstart the game out of RVS, to the point that she considered faking a scumread on someone, would she really be content to go afk and wait for other people to do the work for her?

    There's a sense of impatience I'd be expecting to feel behind her posting if that was the case, and I'm not picking up any.

    This is all the reasoning you need for an ED1 vote, but I don't get why you haven't voted based on this. Feels like you're trying to gauge the general consensus before voting her. I don't think that always comes from scum but it's pretty self conscious. FTR, I didn't get any read off of Claire's RVS posts.

    10 hours ago, Bartozio said:

    ##Vote: @Ampharos

    Don't worry, I got you!

    Not responding to Amy's read initially bothers me. Just a minor thing, wouldn't vote on it alone. What bothers me more is that your progression on Claire doesn't read as natural to me. You pressed Amy on her read and then switched your vote to Claire because you didn't really have anything else to press Amy on. I don't know how to explain it, I feel like...town in this situation would be more willing to agree to disagree, even if they weren't bothered by Amy. I don't get why you're scumreading Claire. Also his Weiner read doesn't have much thought IMO. Saying "we should look at him if Claire flips scum" just because he defended Claire feels very surface level to me, especially considering he's voting Claire. I might be nitpicking here because I think if he said "I wouldn't townread him if Claire flipped scum" it wouldn't bother me because I don't see an agenda there.

    8 hours ago, Athena_57 said:

    Idk if I could play mafia without my free locktown via

    He's the Jeigan, here to carry us early game before dying N1.

    @Athena_57 Can you reevaluate your Bartozio read? It's fine if you don't think he's scummy any more, but my impression from your unvote was that it was a kneejerk reaction to him being wagoned.

    @Magnificence Incarnate Can you explain why Bartozio's posts are gamesolvey? I got that impression from Athena but not from Bart.

    @Shinori If you could uh further explain your feelings on Amy, that'd be cool.

    @Vi-astra Can you explain why Bart explaining himself made you feel better? I think your point about Amy being self conscious meta wise is good. It reads to me as her not wanting to be scumread for a dumb reason (e.g. my actually nonexistent meta knowledge of Amy lmao). I'm kind of conflicted on who to vote because I think what Bartozio is doing is worse than what Amy is doing but like uh...I could see myself mislynching Bartozio more easily than Amy. PEdit: Well now I'm voting Amy just because Bart already has a wagon.

    @weinerboy For the record, Amy is right in that I have no idea what her meta is.

    ##Unvote

    ##Vote: Ampharos

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