Lord Raven

Surely the few black people that you know are the counter examples to black people being rude and obnoxious, no? Every race has its fair share of rude, obnoxious people. Not like it's the fact that they're black or white or yellow that's relevant - it's the personality that matters in the end.

I'm not saying you're slow for not figuring it out earlier (for the second spoiler), though. I forgot how I figured it, but it just had to be right. A gut feeling, you know? The first one is understandable.

2-3 was also damned fun. Geoffrey, Makalov, and Kieran raped it for me in my current NM file. I played 1-E recently without the BK. I tend to avoid using Nailah and the Black Knight just to give EXP to the others, so it was obviously that I'd hate it.

I'm a paki and I'm madly in love with a korean chick. I don't think race is a factor for me. XD I still make fun of people for race, but only if I know the person very well - otherwise, I tend to avoid joking about it so as people don't take me seriously.

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I loved 2-E, actually. I was just playing it and had to restart a couple times (due to experiments on top of anything, battle saves are a boon) - Haar with Hand Axe, Short Axe, a bunch of BEXP, a Hammer, and a speedwing RAPES the chapter. With support from a physic stuff. On normal mode. 1-E was a burnout to me.

wrath and resolve is pretty rape though, considering resolve actually boosts your already high speed a considerable amount

SEPHIRAN I don't need to say much more

You don't know this for a fact at all. Stop passing it off as fact.Yes, Isadora has flaws and Jeigan is impossible to use endgame. It won't stop people from using them anyway, even when ranked. You can't possibly prove that people never use them for ranked runs, ever; you can assume, but that's all it is, an assumption. And assumptions are not always true; the tier list is based upon one assumption as well; the character in question is being used. Nothing more. That's assuming you're not going to be using Karel. The tier assumes you are using Karel. This is known as a double standard. Which is similar to hypocrisy.http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/double+standard http://www.doublestandards.org/ etc Fucking irrelevant, do you not realize what a principle is? I'm not arguing that alan/samson and giffca/naesala/tibarn are carbon copies of one another, I'm arguing that Karel and Harken, despite the difference in quality, should not be judged based upon whether or not their performance is adequate and not because one is blocking out another. The latter is bias towards Harken and bias against Karel, and you know it.And frankly, I give a shit. It just happens that Alan/Samson or Tibarn/Naesala/Giffca are around the same grouping in regards to their quality. Karel's performance is average. Harken has nothing to do with this. Harken's performance is good. Karel has nothing to do with this. This is still vague. A consistent tier list mathematically defines what it means by things, and explains the reasoning behind it. Harken simply is. By being recruited, and not being bumped down for blocking out another character when the other character is being bumped down for blocking him. The 600 gig is 30 bucks, the 1000 gig is 50 bucks. The catch is you only have 50 bucks to spend.

You could. You just don't know. Harken is the reason Karel can't be there, so he's preventing someone from existing. Just because he's good doesn't mean the principle is different. What is a "notable gap", exactly? Is it an arbitrary gap? Tell you what, give me an exact definition of "notable gap" instead of saying "unless there's a notable gap."On top of that, I still don't see how that isn't being a hypocrite. Once again, just because Harken is better than Karel does not mean that one deserves more treatment than the other; this is not even a rule of a tier list. But it doesn't detract from the quality of the 600 GB. http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ad-hominem.html

She can take care of the Pegasi before they get to you, as well.

don't forget the marksman gets a third range! and the bow users have better methods of going ranged anyway, the third range isn't even necessary

And yet you still can't find everyone and evaluate whether or not they've attempted HHM ranked. The mind of a player takes it into account, yet is not the gameplay mechanic itself. Hostile much? Jeez, I just want to talk about FE.People aren't allowed to play favorites on ranked runs either? What a crappy kind of thinking this seems to be. As far as I'm aware tiers judge units based upon their individual strengths, not that they'll be by themselves of course. But Harken's not coming doesn't affect the team much because he wasn't even there in the first place. You can't affect something until you're there. His main "flaw" that knocks him down, as far as I'm aware (and that of which we're arguing about), is also the target of bias. And you can't seem to admit this.Picking Karel over Harken is also bias, but that's up to the player who they pick. However, penalizing one because you can't get the other? The penalty is bias unless it applies to everyone, or no one. No in betweens. So? So? So?It doesn't matter what the circumstances are. It's the principle. And in order to prevent from being a hypocrite, you must abide to a principle in every individual case; you cannot suddenly decide "oh shit, well you see they're COMPLETELY different in terms of quality so we HAVE to automatically penalize the one that isn't as good just because of that." Is that what you kids are calling it these days? Out of interest, if you had a spare 50 bucks and wanted a hard drive and you found a 1000 GB for 50 bucks and a 600 GB for 30 bucks, which of those two are good? Both are in fact good (well, the GB/cost ratio is exactly the same), but you'd obviously go for the 1000 GB right? The 600 GB is still good and it is not affected by the 1000 GB's superior quality at all, but it's still good. Same applies to Harken vs Karel. Karel is inherently average though, and Harken is quite good. But Karel blocking out Harken should not determine whether or not Karel is a good unit, and it should be factor for every single case it is applied to or a completely null factor. It encourages hypocrisy, which a tier list should not be judged by. take a deep breath and relax... seriously.

that's stupid lol, no offense or anythingBest way is to give him bronze daggers and knives until your units get a lot of level ups, then you can upgrade his weaponry. Even though bronze is pretty much all that's available until chapter 7 anyway. He really doesn't kill that often, though Kard does (Kard is a shitty weapon, by the way).

Alright, the entire point is going over your head. The person likes Swordmasters, whatever. You're preaching gameplay mechanics, then you say "well a player is more likely to use Harken" which is NOT gameplay mechanics, but the mind of the player. Make up your mind!And frankly? Anyone who plays favorites trumps your point that "high tier = more use," because if they favor Karel they're more likely to play him than Harken. Same argument goes for Harken. Simply put, your point is untrue until you can compile the entire list of people who have played FE7 and checked what they have and have not played and do all that AP Statistics shit on it to figure out where they truly should go, assuming that higher tier = more often played is correct. Because unless you're fucking omnipotent (which we all are far from), you cannot say that high tier characters are played more often than low tier characters. And what effect does this have on his battle abilities? None! Merric should not be penalized, and if Est blocked Merric out then she should not be penalized either. Because this has no bearing on Merric's performance, that of which is being judged by a tier list in the first place. Performance has nothing to do with who you're blocking out, and if you're judging as such the tier list becomes biased. His blocking out Est is irrelevant point to his own performance. If his performance is poor (which it is not), then sure he sucks. But blocking out Est still has nothing to do with it.If Est blocks out Merric, then that doesn't do anything to her tier list ranking. The main reason being that it still has no effect to her performance. But absolutely not Karel's worth! To keep tier list rankings consistent and unbiased, something that you don't seem to be able to grasp.someone's getting a bit angry lol chill out, it's just a video game.

Missing the point aren't we! It's supposed to contradict your statement where a player is supposedly more likely to pick Harken over Karel - but everyone has their preferences so you can't even say that is true. I think Karel is a badass (and Harken too), so I'd occasionally go for the guy who killed an army and raped their corpses. This is an assumption until you can prove it as fact. Ask everyone who has ever played FE7 as to whether or not they got Harken more or Karel more on their playthroughs and ask them the reason why they got Karel or Harken. Is it because he's better? Probably is because people play their favorites (and it's factually true), but whatever the reason may be you still cannot pass off higher tier = more likely to be used as fact until you have the statistics to back your assertion up. But not the entire team. And he's not hurting what doesn't exist. And this is still not mattering when it comes to determining Karel's worth. Harken doesn't exist in a A huge double standard. If you're going to penalize Karel for blocking out Harken, you should penalize Harken for the same regardless of the quality just for consistency, and avoiding hypocrisy."No one cares about the other units that require you to choose" is further adding to how much of a hypocrite anyone using this argument is, because regardless of whether or not they're a bottom tier or top tier should be irrelevant if they're blocking someone out; penalize both or neither, but don't be a hypocrite.

What if the person likes Karel better than Harken? What if the person got raped by some guy who looked like Harken and is afraid to get Harken because of that? What if, oh my God, they just HATE Harken?Your assumption that Harken will ALWAYS be used over Karel is a false assumption. I love Harken but I rush the chapters and end up getting Karel every playthrough. I don't think I'm the only one who does this either. Technically if you solo a chapter with Harken you're completely hurting EXP rank because Level 10s don't get much EXP.You can't hurt the team if it's only affecting one unit. You're almost making it sound as if the bottom/low/mid tiers exist only to suck the high tier's dicks. You said so yourself that this doesn't apply much to Geitz or Wallace. Why only apply it to Harken and Karel? That's another double standard. It's also like crapping on Kent/Lowen for blocking out the Knight's Crest for Sain/Oswin. Using Dart allows you 110K funds to use. Using Farina only allows you 110K to use. It allows too much less flexibility and you need to cut down on promotions and high cost weapons to use if you want to compensate for it.And really? They have too many other shortcomings for the 50K to matter in the first place.

It's avoiding favoritism if both or neither are taken off a point, in my opinion. No in betweens.

To be perfectly fair, Nolan's probably getting 18/0-20/1 areas at the end of Hard mode.

No because about 80% of the people who play FE don't even give a damn about tiers to care about Harken > Karel and play whoever the hell they want anyway. And I end up having Karel a lot more because I plow through that chapter and I can't be fucked to restart to get Harken. That's not hurting the team at all! That's just saying the other option is better, not that he's hurting the team. Hurting the team is coming in and costing 50K to promote, or being recruited requires that you kill every single unit you've used prior NOT picking some guy over another, better character. This is a double standard and you fucking know it. No, you get loads of Funds throughout the game. 351K worth of Funds throughout the game, probably 250K under realistic conditions. Which leaves you with 170K to spend before you lose your S rank. I'll go into specifics on how it's 351K once I find the post, but I'll wait to see if you ask first.Tactics is more of a bitch to increase because nobody knows what the requirements actually are off the top of my head. Getting Harken is quite a bit more turns and probably a blow to your funds rank in Jerme's map because it requires you get to the doors a bit later and getting the items a bit later.

But Renning can actually compete in the final chapter! Meg's going to be underleveled in Part IV.

Getting Harken = not getting the Wo Dao or Karel, Getting Karel = not getting the Brave Sword or Harken. But I don't see how this should penalize either in the first place when you're meant to be judging performance.