Randa

That being the time we should wait.

I have no idea. Let's say 30 minutes an hour tops. In that time I think I'm gonna reread both before I make my vote. that should take half an hour to do

I mean on recently. Cause I don't have a lot of faith on people being in at deadline. Look at day 2 we coulda shift the lynch, in hindsight we shouldn't have because we did hit scum, and nobody wanted to. Either way I don't think we should hammer until we get some claims or at least one.

Whoops misspelled hear. thats embarrassing

I also think we should here claims from both of them at this point.

If we do have a scum!doc I will be pissed. Do you mean not lynch at deadline or that you would prefer a no lynch to an FFM lynch.Anyways depending on the answer Kirsche could get us an FFM lynch. If he would prefer a no lynch it looks like it might just be me you and Julleite/rein. Meaning beli would be the only option to actually get a lynch.

It makes me sad that I have to explain that.

Because I was joking.

Sorry I've been useless this phase. I've kinda had shit I needed to do the last couple of days. So opinions on people. Would lynch: Whoever the doctor is FFM Ace Would consolidate if needed: Beli(There is a possibility of this actually being nesscesary) Wouldn't be thrilled lynching but kinda acceptable: SB(So tunnelly dood) GP Probably wouldn't lynch: Juliette Kirsche Elidondon OP: Sara. Me: Janus bet Valnich But yeah I should be around for deadline, so yeah that's my thoughts right now. I'm a bit concerned on how hard Kirsche is defending FFM, but I kinda understand why. FFM does seem like an easy lynch to just hop on at this point so maybe thinking we're letting scum coast off an easy vote. It's a bit weird that GP hasn't really given a strong scum read on FFM up till now and votes. She could easily tie it up on beli who she had voiced suspicion on since day 2. Also of note, SB has been kinda tunelling Ace and FFM I'm a bit concerned we could be seeing Super Busser in work again.

The giants lost maningham. They stil had this top two recievers. Their pass rush was still in tact (JPP got hurt the year after) the only difference is they lost their running backs, who unless they are top of the line are a dime a dozen. And the pats still made it those years. It's not an exact science. And to restate that what you did last year means nothing, over last 10 years the number of playoff games won by the defending champ is 0. Not Super Bowls playoff games. The best team in the world can't get through the first round. In 4 case they didn't even make the playoffs. Also something I noticed is that it's been about ten years since the last repeat so it's probably gonna happen some time soon.

Also not sure if people have seen this yet. I think it happened Sunday. http://youtu.be/3VbSwJaUeCU

Bear the bengals have done nothing to get better. We dont know if Atkins will be at full health by the beginning of the season. And then look at rhat secondary it's not that good. Like really not good. Anytime with a respectable offense should be able to put 35-40 points a game. Hers how any defense has to play them. Load the box, two on green, man to man on jones and the third option/tight end. AJ green ain't Calvin Johnson, he can't catch touchdowns when he has three guys on him, and Dalton's not Matthew stafford. And making the playoffs three years in a row means nothing. Look at the giants, won a Super Bowl, missed the playoffs at 8-8, went 4-12 last year. Past accomplishments mean jack. Pats have made three straight afc championship games, I'm not picking to make the championship game. What a team has done means nothing towards what they will do.

## Unvote ## Vote boron Second time this game I've voted a hidden. Also I had some actual purpose in posting this I just can't remember what that purpose was. Ah well It'll come to me later. Also also even though I don't like being at L-2 half way through a phase I don't think scum is rash enough to quick hammer so I'm just gonna leave it as is for the time being. ## Unvote ##Vote FFM Still blatantly sheeping SB on this.

I'm also gonna address what GP said here. I don't have a problem if its an observation and part of a case. The problem is you worded in a fashion that made it look like it was the main reason you thought I was scum. And this response isn't helping your point. It looks like your just looking for lack of a better phrase, easy content. If you wanna say somebody's scum make a case with like actual examples of scummy behavior. That should be the basis of the case. Not an action which could've been preformed by any person in this game, for any given reason. You don't have to go through 25 pages, you have to go the first page look at my ISO. You find a post scummy look at it in context. Then if it's still scummy and nobody's brought bring it up. If somebody already has then just say the post number of the case. It's not that hard. This reinforces what I've been saying about this game for the last 72 hours. People don't care enough to actually put effort in. That's what this post reads to me. And no this is not an AtE before anybody says it. These are just my thoughts.

I said the bengals would lose to the steelers twice.

I'm gonna run through the browns and bengals schedules and say how I think it'll go for them. [spoiler=Bengals] Sun. 9/7 at Baltimore Don't think the bengals are gonna be able to win this one. 0-1 Sun. 9/14 ATLANTA Probably not gonna win this one either, that receiving core healthy should shred the bengals. 0-2 Sun. 9/21 TENNESSEE Win. 1-2 --BYE-- Sun. 10/5 at New England AJ green meet revis. The rest of the receiver core is now facing that secondary, with browner coming off suspension. Pats win 1-3 Sun. 10/12 CAROLINA Carolina is in for a rough season with that offense. Doesn't help Stewart got injured again. 2-3 Sun. 10/19 at Indianapolis Sorry I'm picking Indy to go the Super Bowl this year. 2-4 Sun. 10/26 BALTIMORE See above. 2-5. Sun. 11/2 JACKSONVILLE lol. 3-5 Thu. 11/6 CLEVELAND This ones harder than I would like it to be. I'll give it to the bengals but it won't be easy. 4-5 Sun. 11/16 at New Orleans lol. 4-6 Sun. 11/23 at Houston I already talked about what I think of the texans this year. 4-7 Sun. 11/30 at Tampa Bay Yeah I think they got this one. 5-7 Sun. 12/7 PITTSBURGH In my opinion they don't got enough weapons to beat the steelers. 5-8 Sun. 12/14 at Cleveland I can see it going either way. I'm in favor of the browns at home though. 5-9 Mon 12/22 DENVER 8:30 p.m. lol. 5-10 Sun. 12/28 at Pittsburgh See above. 5-11 [spoiler=Browns] 1 STEELERS Don't think they got it. 0-1 2 SAINTS lol not happenin. 0-2 3 RAVENS Mayber. Probably not. 0-3 4 BYE 5 TITANS Yeah I think they win this. 1-3 6 AT STEELERS Nope still don't got it. 1-4 7 AT JAGUARS Duh. 2-4 8 RAIDERS ^ 3-4 9 BUCCANEERS Harder but I still think they win this. 4-4 10 AT BENGALS Already talked about this. 4-5 11 TEXANS I already voiced my opinion on the texans.4-6 12 FALCONS Yeah I think they win this. 5-6 13 BILLS ^ 6-6 14 COLTS Nope. 6-7 15 BENGALS Yep. 7-7 16 AT PANTHERS Nope. 7-8 17 AT RAVENS Nope. 7-9 Also I think the wins goes down if they start Manziel. Of course not counting injuries or trades.

Don't underestimate the browns. Just because they made one of the most questionable decisions trading up to draft Manziel (What was it three spots) doesn't mean they don't have a kickass defense. And the bengals had a very poor offseason as far as I can tell. People don't have confidence in dalton, they didn't add that number 2 reciver to go across AJ green, and their defense is still pretty banged up. The steelers are my choice to win this year, but they can't start slow like last year or they won't close the gap the ravens will inevitably make. Also texans are a nice sleeper to bet on for representing the AFC this year. If they can get a top line QB they would by my pick to win it. That front seven is so sexy though. I'm guessing like 45-48 sacks this year.

I'm stupid and forgot to vote. ##FFM Let's sheep SB for now.

FFM: Nothings changed from the last time I talked about him way back in post 391. His two posts since don't really strike me as having a whole lot in them. Ace: Also hasn't really changed since I last talked about her in post 432. Post 435 mostly talks about voting patterns. Also I find this amusing. I know I'm town. I thought/felt Darros was town. Why would I vote someone I know is town over someone I believe is town?

I didn't vote because I got hungry. And I won't vote till I reread a few people.And I'm thinking Ace and FFM are pretty likely to be scum. Maybe GP or Julleite. I'd have to go back and read them though. Also I was promised a hydra and rein has not hydra'd.

And I'm just gonna say that beli's posts don't really strike me as completely scummy so much as really bad/poorly thought out.

This is the only acceptable way to botch my name from now on. Already tried that nobody sheeped me. What you want actual content. Lord helix doesn't agree. http://askhelixfossil.com/#biinam Uhhhhm. That's.. Yeah that's something. Is it a gut read or just... I... Why are night kills the center of your case.

Welp. Looks like I was wrong about blitz and PK. Man my reads suck.

Well in my dozen or so attempts to complete H5 with shitty units, I have had a lot of units turn out well for me. so yeah over half the cast has never turned out well for me on. H5.

Okay I've had enough of this. Waiting isn't accomplish anything at this point. They've both had the entire day to do literally anything and nothing happened. I'm sick of waiting. ##Hammer: Kinumi