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Darros: Tunnel vision? Maybe. i still dont see the case on him. maybe active lurking? maybe. Ace: A lot of fluff. Gonna go back to the point about her vote on me for a minute. Between the time where she first expressed suspicion, a time at which her vote was doing nothing, and the time she voted me, she made nine post. Thats more than some of the game has made overall. And strangely enough none of really seemed to be scum hunting. before you complain that you have, i would like see a post in that time where you did actually partake in scum hunting. Now the part that strikes me funny, was that her vote on me came the post directly after FFM, who i have stated seems to be giving her more leeway than i do or that most do. so FFM/Ace buddying maybe. if one flips scum i definitely think the other will. I'll get to cam/bear later. But just to try and get some discussion going blitz what do you think so far. any reads of note, or any comment on mine and darros's wagons. and to the people who have sort of just park voted since RVS any opinions on who might actually be scum.

please no ninjas God damn Kirsche you made me bust out my bluetooth keyboard for this. Lets see i think i already did what you wanted me to do in post 194. Which unless i read wrong was to give reads which i was already working on. so i assume thats not the post i was "avoiding". i already said i would be out of my house for a while and could not make a meaningful response for a couple of hours, so not really avoiding just timing problems from the looks of it. Bolded whats actually for me. Being done basically means it has valid reasoning or is a complete finished ready to be used, and i will voluntarily display them. But the one i did give was really not finished. i would've preferred to have held on to that for later, with more backing it, as such i did not want to voluntarily release it. however i only had one logical read, and a very easy one at that, would not have accomplished anything when SB asked, especially considering that the case had already been pointed out. so rather than just keep us in a rut, i decided i would show the unfinished, theory, paranoid, whatever you wanna call it, case on SB to actually move the game along. in a sense you are right the case was released as appeasement, but it was also used as a piece to help the game move along. but i do have to point out that fact the though people state that the case was scummy, there was no benefit for me to post that as scum. if anything its a null. least thats the way i see it. i dont know why i put this in here. I actually looked back and was surprised that i did not address the SB matter. I will address it now however. SB was not somebody that i was convinced was scum to begin with. a little bit of real life frustration led to me voting him over Poly, and so when none of my suspicions looked to be true i simply was not suspicious. not gonna bother my "Poly case" because he subbed and the fact of the matter is i always read him as scum, so #sorrynotsorry. over aggressive behavior is all i really took from beli's post and that can be either town or scum, i stated in my analysis that upon rereading the section in question it was more null interaction, with a slight lean towards scum. however its not a strong conviction either way. and before you ask, i know that in my post before that i said beli was number two on my lynch list but further reading changed my opinion. we all gave an early pass for the RVS mess, but the play never really straightened out imo. i can account for some of it being inexperience, but some of it just strikes me wrong. now that im done with this qurflafel im gonna go reread darros, ace, cam, and bear. because, pretty much the only other wagon, biggest scum read, and curios whether or not ace was overeacting.

no coach said we can drink anytime between the months of january and june.

My apologies kirsche I will a ddress your posts as soon as I figure out what the he'll I'm supposed to do for my college alchol awareness program.

This makes me more confident in my vote right now. You adressed none of the points brought against you and went for the emotional appeal. It seems to me like an attempt to actively lurk. You don't bother defending yourself and you haven't helped in scumhunting. That's suspicious.

As a little note I will not be able to post anything meaningful for a couple hours, so I'll answer any huge questions when I get home.

So things I've noticed while rereading. Ace: Starts stating suspicion of me and SB on page 7, however never states why he's suspicious of SB, and doesn't follow through with her suspicions until page 10. Strikes me as looking set one of us up of the other flips town. Might be overthinking here. Also never really states why he changes his mind on SB. Poly: He seems the same as usual to me. And for bizzare I always think Poly's scum. I don't know why. Sorry dude. Belisauris: Really seems very aggressive in his few content post. Like really aggressive. That's more null to me, but not sure what others thing. FFM: Possible White Knight? Seems to be willing to wave off all of Ace's mistakes as newb plays, even to a higher degree than the rest of us. If Ace flips scum I would feel very confident that FFM is scum. All that being said. ##unvote ##Vote Ace Striker I'd like to hear why you dropped your suspicions on GP and SB.

Honestly I think ace strikes me as the most likely right now. The vote on me seems opportunistic, given that she has stating suspicion for two pages and only when five other people have voted is she actually willing to stand by her suspicions. Seems like scum trying to blend in, but I think you have the same though process. Not sure but whatever. I do not however think Darros is scum, the actual vote struck as just early game sheep SB. Belarius was overly defensive so I'm not horribly thrilled about him right now, same with Poly. So as it stands Ace>Belarius>Poly>Lurkers>everybody else. I will vote in my next post but I want to reread and see if I missed anything.

Speaking of which ##Unvote Probably shoulda just done this in the above post but hey I'm distractable.

Not really I just keep forgetting to Unvote.

Did you just skim through the entire like thread or did you just miss the fact that I corrected myself the very next post. Posts 118/119 if you want specifics. It was a typo. Darros stated that overreactive newbs can be scum, I stated that over reactive newbs are not automatically scum.

That should be, because your not done

Actually SB there is a difference between not wanting to post because it seems scummy and not wanting to post because your done. Versus You asked for reads based off of minimal content, they're not gonna be great. I'm just kinda confused about the bolded part. Who's suspicious of you? The Darros post seems very poor to me. Even for this point in the game. None of what you said is anywhere near scummy. You know I don't get less scummy as the game goes along. Because it actually gives us shit to work with, like how people react and interact. That's why posting a shit case that makes you look shady as fuck actually benefits the town. It sucks cause your probably gonna get lynched for it, but it does help start the game up.

Sorry my bad. Stupid mistake will not happen again.

The basis of the theory is that Poly has had poor reactions to cases in conspiracy predominately because of something IRL, which is why I believe its a possibility that SB could've taken into account when choosing who to ask.

Also five ninjas in seven minutes. That's not helpful.

There is a reason why I don't post these cases unless somebody asks for my reads. They are not completely done and the basis isn't infallible. There are holes in it, but we don't have a whole lot to work with ATM. And the Poly suspicion is more realistic than my suspicions against you. I have to give consideration to the fact that yes you chose it not to get Poly lynched but to get information. Now the vote was more or less to get you to the answer the question about your decision. I could vote either of you, however a question for you that I would rather have had answered unlike Poly.

Triple post combo. It's not unreasonable for somebody to think about mafia if what they're doing is boring. I do it whenever I play a game and school's in session. And avoiding content is posting without actually serving a purpose, like this post, or flat avoiding posting. Since it makes the game harder to progress it's seen as a scummy action.

That should be does not equal scum.

But the inverse is also true. Overeactive newb=scum. PK's comments can be taken as scumy, but honestly what scum is willing to do that much WIFOM this early in the game. It doesn't make any sense to say the comments were distinctly scum. If anything they were null, same with Ace overreacting to what was essentially nothing. So neither of the strike me as scum yet.

For the record I was ninja'd by Darros.

Was the suspicious comment for me SB or for Ace, because said he was suspicious of you. I have yet to. And personally speaking I think either you or poly is the most likely scum right now. The rest strikes me as newbish play. Poly overreacted to your question. Far more so than somebody of his experience should've. A simple no would've answered your question, but by bringing in self meta he makes himself seem worse. [spoiler=super paranoid case]But the interaction does bring up another question. Why Poly? There were plenty of others you could've asked. So I'm thinking you may have seen an opportunity in Poly's mentality, as seen in conspiracy, to have him overreact or in some way shape and form seem scummy. So that could go for an easy early mislynch which nobody could blame you for because poly would've dug his own grave. Long, paranoid story short I see that Poly was the best option for scum!SB to question, but I do not see any higher value for town!SB to question Poly. In summary though it may be extreme paranoia driving this vote I will ##Vote SB for the reasons illustrated above.

You thought a joke vote in RVS was weird. Surprise surprise. (Also i never realized surprise had two r's) But uninformed post still give us something to work with. We have 72 each phase to work with, uninformed post may have short term damage but any misunderstandings from them can usually be cleared up easily. As long as it's still day 1. But not posting means we can't move forward, whether the case seems stupid or unfounded is irrelevant because it gives us reactions and other stuff we can use to form, for lack of a better word, informed cases.

Why does nobody actually bother to use my new name? I mean its awesome.

This kinda strikes me of how I play scum. Making every move with the intention of not looking like scum. And this seems a bit unjustified when we are still in ED1.