Randa

I will probably be around at deadline so I'm gonna try and give PK as much time to post as possible. I will definitely hammer cause we don't need a no lynch day 2.

Okay so that changes things. Nobody hammer until we absolutely have to or PK actually gets in here and posts. If the slot gets mod killed we are screwed. Possible scenarios: Note: all of these scenarios are assuming PK is town. Obviously they are much better if he is scum, but I'd rather be safe and not wind up in a shitty situation. 3 man scum team, mislynch, no doc so NK goes through. In addition we get hit with a mod kill. 6/3 town/scum. Not good. 3 man scum team, correctly lynch, NK goes through. +Modkill. 7/2 best case scenario if we actually have a Modkill. 4 man scum team, mislynch. See above for the rest. 5/4 we're screwed. LYLO. 4 man scum team, correctly lynch. See above. 6/3. Not good. So lets give PK some time to show up and post.

Usually I would be fine with waiting for the person in question claim, but Kinumi hasn't been here for a while, and the mods haven't reported a sub yet. I'm not sure we could even get a claim. But I will wait, let's say 3 hours. If she doesn't claim/no sub comes along, we should probably hammer so we don't no lynch day 2.

If I'm right she's at al-2. Will wait for mod confirmation before I vote though.

So of the other options for a lynch today we have two people with one actual post each(FFM and Kinumi), somebody with two bad posts(Beli) and somebody who hasn't posted in the last three days. A third of the game has less post combined this phase than I do. Really? Can somebody tell why I even bother at this point? I'm willing to vote any of them, because they're all the same exact thing, lurking. And then there's ace who I would be more pleased with a lynch of the slot.

also something I noticed while checking ISO's, kinumi's name is crossed out with a connection to julein's ISO's instead of them being connected to koneko's.

So since we are within 24 hours of phase end and it doesn't look like I'll get my lynch on blitz, I think I should comment on people who are viable wagons at the moment. ##Unvote Ace: Day 2, post 371 she voted beli, SB asks her bout it on post 373, and she proceeds to change it in post 376. This reads a lot like appeasement. SB did bring up decent point about post 371 potentially being an atempt at damage control from the Darros flip. 393 reads as fluff. 402 arguing about the reason behind a NK doesn't do anything. In her blurb about the people on darros's wagon this sentence jumped out to me I'm really not sure what she means but the bolded portion, it seems like she's implying I made Lucas vote Darros so I wouldn't get lynched. But it's pretty odd because PK had their vote on him for a pretty large portion of the day, it wasn't a last minute vote.Also I find this sentence weird the fact she says this twice is a bit concerning. It seems like not wanting to get caught up in a mislynch.Now another thing I noticed in post 402 was that she mentioned she isn't sure FFM is scum and not thrilled about a lynch on him , but in post 412 she suddenly has him as her second highest scum read. I understand opinions can change. But it's odd that he went from voting him to not wanting him lynched to having him as your second highest scum read. The rest of my thoughts pretty much overlap with what SB said. I'm going to look into the other potential lynches for the day before I vote though.

Not an AtE, just me being impatient. Only it's still valid. Just because people have voted it doesn't mean they've contributed a lot, or been in the thread. And yes I have been in thread because I've accelerated my work out program and have nothing to do with the rest of my day.

No matter how much I wish I did, I don't have two votes.It's on blitz right now.

Your validation for voting koneko at the time that you did, was that the only people you could think to vote were inactive, which like hell I was, or SB. If you thought Darros and I were scummy, then you should've said why and voted whoever you thought was scummier. In your exact wording, you didn't want to seem like you were avoiding attention. This seems overly self concious. It looks like you don't want people to think you're scum and press you about it. Okay you wanna know what I read of my wagon. People were sheeping SB. Nothing else happened. You wanna me run through person and say they coulda been scum looking for an easy lynch. That's so useful. That's definitely got more value than questioning content that might actually lead me to scum. That's easy content blitz. [quote and about the dead horse thing, yes you mentioned the point, but how did the point become widely mentioned before you mention it? all my points still stand unless you can prove me wrong, but the way things are going, I highly doubt it. Do you understand the expression. It doesn't a lot of people have been talking about it, it means it been mentioned than would be preferable.

Sorry premature post. I meant to say that I just don't see any good reason to think your original vote wasn't a joke. And you really seem to be trying to use that to defend yourself with it. Which I don't think is a valid defense. Does that make sense to other people?

I really don't see an entire case. I see the whole town doesn't care thing. ##Unvote ##Vote:Blitz ##Request Votals My last few post should explain why.

[spoiler=not really game related but seriously read this] Guys it's getting really hard to stay motivated to win right now. I feel like I'm trying to drag town to a victory and have two maybe three other people helping and a lot of people doing nothing. This does not make for a fun game guys. I just wanna see more people get involved in this game. Like there is an argument going on and active discussion, it gives you guys plenty to talk about. Give me some reason to actually try and win this. Blitz the problem is your content isn't very strong either, so pot kettle situation if you look at it that way. And what part about my content isn't good. The active scum hunting, constant committing on post, the jokes. There's a reason we have a thing called votals that we can request. I'm not gonna remember every vote of the game. It's not gonna happen. I don't even remember the case. I'll look back see if I can find though. Because I'd already mentioned it myself. I don't like making the same point a hundred times.

I can prove you never made an actual case against him. You came in said town doesn't care what people think and voted hike. You never made a legitimate case. I personally thought it was a joke. I'm sure others did. If I was trying to make easy content, would I really have chosen to case somebody that nobody else is voting or talking about Without looking back who is GP voting. That's what your saying I didn't know. I have probably payed more attention to this game than anybody else here. No I'm not trying to set up a lynch in the future. I'm trying to get you lynched now, because I think your scum.That being said my dad just called so I will address the rest of your post when I get back.

You mean something like this? http://www.serenesforest.net/fe12/

Also it's time to bust out the memes. Because people keep doing it.

Also can somebody please tell me what I'm doing wrong with my quotes.

Actually not a bad point, the only problem I think of is that SB also brings up cases when he defends himself. Ok so let me correct my statement. Your vote could've addressed to anybody who disagreed with your vote/the timing of it, except for Kirsche. Unless you think somebody else in this games has strong content. And I'm the last person, you should be calling out for no scum reads. Mine might change as the game goes along, but you haven't really even given any. Irc you think SB is scum, later in this post you say you thought Darros was scummier than SB, I'm gonna look back to see if you ever mentioned him (though I really don't see the point in lying about thinking town was scum and I probably just missed it). Did I missing anything else from yesterday. If not that's not a whole lot of scum reads. I'm gonna clarify here, because I might not of chosen my words well at the time. Now would be the correct time to prod vote. More so than normal considering that we have people who essentially skipped the second half of day 1. [quote next up, that Prod vote of mine (with less than 24hrs left) worked a lot better than you think, cause thanks to that, we are having this conversation now I don't think this was what you intended to have happen, but I will concede it spurred conversation. At that the time we would've discussed someone who people had voiced suspicion on. It would've sparked discussion that might've made something happen in the last third of the phase. But that also seemed like a weird stretch of time to me, because nobody was even discussing which of the two wagons was more likely scum so not a fan of the way day 1 ended. Also why does the thread seem to die whenever I have things to do. It's nice cause I don't have a lot of reading upon return, but it makes me sad that not a lot of people wanna effort.

I think we've addressed this enough. This really doesn't do anything for me. It reads as a lot of fluff. Not a whole lot said about anything, nothing is backed by quotes or specific examples. I didn't get hammered. At least not in game. This strikes as scum looking to appear helpful and active. Also these are the only two content post he's had, so that doesn't sit well with me either. Pretty much the same exact problems I have with PK, only as I said earlier FFM is not new to the game. This is when multiple votes would really come in handy. I think both of them are really scummy right now. FFM doesn't really have an excuse, not being new is a good one, so.##unvote ##Vote:FFM Also scum read flow chart FFM >/= PK > Blitz >Majority of game> Bear> Kirsche> Hiddens> Me.

No the point I was trying to make is voting lurkers with less 24 hours in a phase is bad. Not voting them in general. And then don't like his defense of his vote. Did you agree with timing of his vote on koneko Kirsche. Also it seems like I wrote more because my quote failed. So it's looks like there's more than there actually is. And I still don't see the formatting problem with it, can somebody tell what went wrong. Nothing wrong with this part just wanna know if the bolded is addressed to FFM or SB. Again don't mix up what I said, I was talking about voting inactives at the time Blitz did, not in general. Also I should point out the fact that I still have to reread FFM and see how he looks on a second/third read without bias from reading through quotes of people making cases against him. And now I think I think he is scummy, because the only post he's made have been sheeping, and they've been few and infrequent. That's my problem, I just found that he sheeped the same person interesting. Also look at myasthenia post to know why I mentioned that fact. Valid point. Still don't think I'm gonna vote blitz right now. Predominately cause he's actually on and doesn't need to be forced to post. No problems here. Kirsche stills reads as town to me, for all of those who were wondering.

:/ Why didn't my quote work. .cri

So from all of this is Ace a null or a scum red for you. Might just be my brain not working, but it seems to go from null to null leaning scum, to scum. But I can't read minds (otherwise I would win this game every time). Just clarify on what you think about Ace please. It doesn't, but it does eliminate potential buddying which popped into my head. Then I remembered cam was town. So it might be scum trying to set up a fall on cam, or just coincidence, or just like cams opinions, or something I haven't even thought of. But I find it interesting that they sheeped cam both times, but the problem is the majority of their post lack original content. Not so much who they sheeped. Cam and Kirsche had both voiced suspicions heading into the end of the day. It probably wouldn't have gone full out lynch, but it would've given us something to discuss. Voting inactives, achieves nothing and has no possibility of achieving anything. That's the problem I have with it. This part could've been addressed to any person who had a problem with your vote. So blitz, Does bear not agreeing with your vote make him scum? Or at lest scummy enough to warrant a vote over the lurkers? also, the inactives should really get in here I think most of us just live in similar time zones, and so we all sleep around the same time. Least that's what I think it is. Also 174/352 (I think) actual post have been made by four people. And two of them are dead. I also didn't realize I had posted this much. Also I can't agree with this sentiment enough. I would vote one of you, but I already am. Actually I would vote all of you if I could and thought it would get you to post.

[spoiler=me bitching about end of day 1] So I Unvoted so we wouldn't hammer and might get some more conversation, but looking back nothing really was added so I kinda feel stupid right now Baaaaa. Sheeping cam. Now what actually intrest me about this post is that despite the post talking about why I'm scummy, she leaves her vote on Darros. This was when it was still between me and Darros, so a switch wouldn't have been a bad move at this point. Also this came after being inactive for a good amount of time. The original Darros vote was also sheeping cam. But cam is/was town, so coincidence that both times it was sheeping cam? But most of their posts read like trying to avoid original content. I think we addressed that this wasn't a good vote, so not gonna beat a dead horse. Okay I lied I will beat the dead horse a bit. This seems like blitz trying to distance himself from either lynch. That seems scummy to me. I can kinda understand why he did it. Okay no I really can't. Why vote an inactive is this situation? I'm not saying you have to vote the major wagons, but voting inactives achieves nothing. And voting SB would've done more, people had voiced suspicions in recent posts and it might've gone somewhere. Or nowhere. But there was a chance of it doing something. [spoiler=SB's big ass wall post] I actually don't have any problems with this post ATM. I will reread later, but just holy shit it took me longer to read and think over that whole thing than making the rest of this post. gg retinas. ## Vote: PKLucas Right now seems to have all the bad as FFM, but less experienced. I'm going to keep it here until I get a chance to go over FFM's post, which will probably be in the morning.

Not quite right, but close enough to give me an excuse to quote manix. Because annon viewing is awesome. Anyways I'll make an actual post in like tenish minutes, rereading late day 1 ATM.

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