Caliban of Sycorax Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 NoHomophobes.com is a website where they count the number of times someone uses the word "faggot", "dyke", or the phrases "no homo" or "so gay" in a Tweet. The site has been up since June 15, and the numbers are ALARMING at how many people use these hateful words without thinking. These words are hateful against people of the LGBTQ community, and they have hateful meanings behind them. The word "faggot", for one--people always joke about how the word "fag" is merely a "pile of sticks". Which is true. However, the "pile of sticks" refers to the kindling used when the church burned people alive--homosexuals included. Please, spread the word around about this. People need to know how many times hateful words are thrown around in common language. These words have an impact on us. I don't know a gay man who hasn't been called a faggot, or a lesbian who hasn't been called a dyke. These words are not everyday words. They are discriminatory and hateful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 (edited) most people i know don't use them with the intention of hating on gays or anything, and it's really *not* that deep. Changing a couple words and the way they're used doesn't stop or hinder discrimination, I would think EDIT: How is "No Homo" homophobic? I can kind of see it but I've never EVER met a gay person that was offended by "no homo" Edited September 28, 2012 by Lord Raven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 i use these pejorative words out of the proper context all the time and i do not feel any malevolence towards homosexual people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliriyum Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 (edited) I personally don't find them offensive unless they were directed at me maliciously. Edited September 28, 2012 by Delirium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewjeo Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 (edited) Regardless of intent, homosexuality is a very touchy subject with a lot of people, and the word you feel is your "label" being used as a negative is pretty clearly offensive. Besides, English has no shortage of negative words to use instead. Edited September 28, 2012 by Rewjeo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Regardless of intent, homosexuality is a very touchy subject with a lot of people, and the word you feel is your "label" being used as a negative is pretty clearly offensive. Besides, English has no shortage of negative words to use instead. i bet that you cannot find me a contextually perfect synonym for any of these words Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 (edited) EDIT: How is "No Homo" homophobic? I can kind of see it but I've never EVER met a gay person that was offended by "no homo" If you say "I love you, bro--no homo" you're basically giving a big fuck you to gay people because it means you're saying "hey well I'm very fond of you and I want to tell you that but if I don't say "no homo" then I'm just going to look bad". It usually gets to me more than "faggot" or "so gay". I can handle faggot when it's used in contexts like "lol what a faggot" and "this is so fuckin' gay" when they're used outside of talking about gay people because they're words without intent. I dunno why I have these weird double standards but I only ever find faggot offensive when strangers call me one and they're making a deliberate jab at my sexuality. Blah blah blah it's not like people will actually change. oh this just about sums it up: I personally don't find them offensive unless they were directed at me maliciously. Edited September 28, 2012 by Agro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashGordon94 Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 I would just like to say that in England "fag" means "cigarette", that might be relevant if this site counts English Tweets too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtSmilies Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 "I hate when people say no homo" Welp, that took all of four seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Ostrich Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 I don't use the term "no homo" for the same reason that I've never called anyone "brosef", but there's nothing offensive about it. Similarly, calling something "so gay" is not meant as an insult to homosexuals and therefore should not be taken as such. There's nothing more annoying than an overly sensitive killjoy. But I don't use those other two words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Uh, mind telling me what "so gay" is supposed to imply? That being said, I don't know too many women who haven't been called a bitch. Hateful labels are just that, but to get rid of those, you'll have to change people's attitudes first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I don't play for turns Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 so gay I'm kidding of course. Honestly, I'm not very surprised about hings like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliban of Sycorax Posted September 28, 2012 Author Share Posted September 28, 2012 Uh, mind telling me what "so gay" is supposed to imply? "Gay" is usually a synonym for stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 If you say "I love you, bro--no homo" you're basically giving a big fuck you to gay people because it means you're saying "hey well I'm very fond of you and I want to tell you that but if I don't say "no homo" then I'm just going to look bad". or it's, you know, an expression of strictly platonic love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliban of Sycorax Posted September 28, 2012 Author Share Posted September 28, 2012 Implying that homosexual love is the negative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frat_tastic Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 (edited) "That's so gay" is an equivelent to saying something like "that's so stupid" or "that's so lame", implying that being gay is a bad thing like being lame or stupid. "No homo" implies that you have to clarify any same-sex affection, because the assumption is that being gay is bad. The implication is always there with words and phrases like these, whether or not you meant for it to be. Edited September 28, 2012 by frat_tastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 A fag is a cigarette. So shut the fuck up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momentai~ Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 (edited) I think those numbers are a bit inflated. It appears these tweets are not checked for content. I looked at the tweets shown for a minute or so, and a quite few of them were saying "the usage of (insert word being recorded here) needs to stop". That's a good thing. This doesn't mean I'm brushing it off as nothing; I still saw a lot people using it in a bad way. I don't think no homo is implying homosexual love is negative. Sometimes I say no hetero when I give a girl a compliment. The implication I'm getting from that phrase is that when guys say flattering things, it's assumed they wanna get into your pants. That assumption does have some justification, I think. How often do you see heterosexual guys say things like "I love you", "You look really attractive today", "You smell nice", etc., to a woman unless they're interested in them? In my experience it's not too common. With women it's not assumed that they wanna jump your bones when they give a compliment... I think that explains why they don't use it as much. Maybe I'm observing the wrong type of people. idk edit: it got deleted, nvm xP Edited September 28, 2012 by Momentai~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nflchamp Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 "No homo" implies that you have to clarify any same-sex affection, because the assumption is that being gay is bad. This is just silly. "No homo" implies you have to clarify any same-sex affection because we, as human beings, have trouble determining what our relationships are in general. I use the phrase "not in that way" to say the same thing to guys and girls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frat_tastic Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 This is just silly. "No homo" implies you have to clarify any same-sex affection because we, as human beings, have trouble determining what our relationships are in general. I use the phrase "not in that way" to say the same thing to guys and girls. People say "no homo" because they don't want people to think they are gay. People don't want them to think they are gay because being gay is viewed so negatively by a lot of people. Thus, people say "no homo" because they don't want people to think less of them for being gay. Yes, not everyone who says "no homo" feels that being gay is a bad thing, but that doesn't change what most people mean when they say it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau of Isaac Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 (edited) If you say "I love you, bro--no homo" you're basically giving a big fuck you to gay people because it means you're saying "hey well I'm very fond of you and I want to tell you that but if I don't say "no homo" then I'm just going to look bad". You're not giving a big fuck you to gay people by clarifying your sexuality to stop from creating an awkward feeling. They are not saying that being gay is bad, they are saying that the statement they gave isn't sexually charged. The majority of uses of the terms listed are generally ironic in the first place. In any event, if the thing you're distressed about when I or anyone else calls someone a faggot is that someone tangentially related to the term I'm using might feel offended, then I think you're missing the mark. I suppose there'd be an argument if I were purposely using it disparagingly toward homosexuals, but otherwise it's simply a word used to disparagingly refer to a person, similar to "fucker" or "jackass". I'm more of the opposite opinion when it comes to the use of these words; when you socially "lock" a word away, it forever carries the stigma you attach to it. "Nigger" as used in the white community is the most hateful term I can think of, perhaps along with "cunt," mostly because of the caution and racial links it has. Note how it has evolved over the decades in the African American community to be used in multiple manners. The word's not going to disappear, at least not in your lifetime. Might as well change it. Edited September 28, 2012 by Esau of Isaac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freohr Datia Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 This is just silly. "No homo" implies you have to clarify any same-sex affection because we, as human beings, have trouble determining what our relationships are in general. I use the phrase "not in that way" to say the same thing to guys and girls. Saying "no homo" versus "not in that way" are actually two different things. Or that's what it looks like to me. "Not in that way" is saying and only saying "don't worry I'm not trying to hit on you" while saying "no homo" not only is saying "I'm not trying to hit on you" but is also saying "don't worry I'm not gay" which is treating that as a negative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 You're not giving a big fuck you to gay people by clarifying your sexuality to stop from creating an awkward feeling. They are not saying that being gay is bad, they are saying that the statement they gave isn't sexually charged. So... when someone says "no homo", he's denying his friends' ability to determine whether he's actually gay or not, which are probably the same people who're the first to get to know about it everytime he bangs another girl? I really think that this clarification is unnecessary most of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocolate Kitty Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 i use these pejorative words out of the proper context all the time and i do not feel any malevolence towards homosexual people pretty much this, faggot is fun to say, sorry although i have cut down on the "that's gay" comments(I don't think I even say that anymore) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliban of Sycorax Posted September 28, 2012 Author Share Posted September 28, 2012 A fag is a cigarette. So shut the fuck up. But a faggot isn't a cigarette. The site checks for the use of the word faggot. pretty much this, faggot is fun to say, sorry Cool. Yeah. You also have never been called a faggot, I presume. Okay, I get that not everyone understands why words are taken so seriously. Let me put it into context. What if I were to substitute faggot and dyke with nigger and chink? Cunt and retard? I'd be treated much more negatively than if I were to say faggot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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