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Yeah. I goofed my thought process. Saw you guys talking about Boyd and Oscar being necessary on a chapter for the 2-turn and then saw you 4 turn and was wondering about what happened >_>

Then I realized they were different maps.

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I think it might come down to my shoving/smiting Marcia vs Doofina's Mist rescues + Marcia. Though Chiki's team is also godlk due to Oscar+Jill. I don't think I can get Soren to rescue without Reyson.

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How did you 2-turn Chapter 1 without Oscar? Is there something about the rules that I don't know?

because i typo'd and it should've been 3

like i just spotted this

mah bad

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Why is Normal Mode so hard :(

Quick update because I'm stuck

Chapter 1-P:

I don't understand the 5-Turn, but Micaiah got Speed, so it's all good.

6 Turns/6 Total

Chapter 1-1:

Nolan rush!

4 Turns/10 Total

Chapter 1-2:

Nolan escorts Micaiah and Leonardo ferrying Laura. Then Sothe appears and cleared the path to the door. Missed all the treasure.

5 Turns/15 Total

And 1-3 is being extremely annoying.

RAGEQUIT

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Have Nolan and Laura go to recruit Aran. Sothe and Miciah to the right. Hide everyone else. If Nolan's levels weren't complete garbage you should get a five turn. Or was it six. I can't remember.

Or alternatively have Nolan equipped with the iron axe and bait Aran into using the javelin. Use the doorway to the east as a choke point.

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lol no way is Jill the best unit especially when there's only 4 people in a draft

Edward definitely saves more turns than her. He's the only one that can reliably 4 turn 1-4 without any abuse*, saves a turn in 1-1 without having to draft lolLeo, plus he contributes to the 5 turn of 1-3. Jill shows up in 1-6-1, saves no turns there unless you can pull off 3 turns, which isn't that likely anyway, then proceeds to save no turns for the rest of part 1. I've 6 turned 3-6 without Jill many times, 3-12 you could save a turn here with Jill, but that's just 2 turns vs 3 turns normally. Laura can 1 turn 3-13, which Jill might be able to too

I've also never kept Jill with the DBs because she's usually my obligatory flier for 3-11 because people (pkl) never leave me other fliers when I draft her. I get Leo or someone to help out with 3-12 and 3-13, no real loss there.

Yeah, she's good, but I've drafted her many times before and I know what I'm doing. There's a reason (many, actually) I didn't pick her.

*Nolan can with a critforge, but his avoid at this point in the game vs tigers/cats is pretty balls so it requires a lot of abuse. Ilyana can't because she's 2HKO'd by everything no matter how much BEXP you give her. She can 5 turn with abuse, but 4 is impossible without hardcore Haar draft style resetting forever because you need to rig crits as well as dodge tigers and cats because she'll get 2HKO'd by everything at best. meg leo laura lol no

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That's a point against her then

I've never used her in 3-13

edit: if Edward was taken before me I would've definitely picked Jill though.

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3 is definitely possible

Have Gatrie rescue Shinon and get in the corner of the starting area, and Ike can go near the house since you're not getting Marcia. Usually they'll all choose to attack Ike even with Gatrie rescuing Shinon, but on turn 3 the bandit to the left will attack Gatrie if you leave him there because he won't be in range of Ike. On the last turn I make him move up towards the ship and Ike can visit the elixir house if it's not blocked off.

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What do you do about undrafted units when they're forced? It's almost impossible to not let Gatrie and Shinon get attacked in 3 and 7 if you're going quickly.

It's a pain. There's a way to avoid Chapter 3's penalty (figure it out though :p ) and Chapter 7 is also avoidable but very tough. I actually thought it was impossible for my first few drafts of FE9.

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I did CR's way for Chapter 3 but what do you do when you try to get Marcia?

Also, how do you 6 turn Chapter 7 with only Ike and Titania? On my first LTC playthrough I only managed a 6 turn with everyone.

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I know I did it like 4 hours ago, but I can't exactly remember what I did. I'll take a look at the credits and see if I wrote it down wrong. Might've been like 8 or something and I just transcribed it wrong or something like that. >_>

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I'm pretty sure you can't 6 turn with only Ike and Titania. I think it's 7 turns at best, with a good enough Ike. But since it's fixed, I really doubt that.

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Seems like getting Gatrie / Shinon to avoid getting attacked in Chapter 3 while getting Marcia is impossible.

2 turning Chapter 4 is impossible without the Hand Axe unless you get an Iron Axe / Steel Axe crit because the boss has a Javelin.

And I don't even know if you can 4 turn Chapter 2 without Oscar, Boyd and Rhys because Ike getting gangbanged is death at that point of the game.

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You guys are wrong 8b. Bear can't win simply because his 2-E and early P3 sucks, and he'll take turns to clear those chapters, while, if my calculations are correct, Turtle has the potential of having the best TC. On the other hand, CR and I are getting pretty much the same TC with a minor difference of turns, like 1 or 3.

Calcs are:

Quint: 182/183~

CR: 182~

Bear: >185

Turtle: 178~

So c-harrre, we lost 8[

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Seems like getting Gatrie / Shinon to avoid getting attacked in Chapter 3 while getting Marcia is impossible.

2 turning Chapter 4 is impossible without the Hand Axe unless you get an Iron Axe / Steel Axe crit because the boss has a Javelin.

And I don't even know if you can 4 turn Chapter 2 without Oscar, Boyd and Rhys because Ike getting gangbanged is death at that point of the game.

I drafted Shinon for Chapter 3. I think the one in trouble is Lucina. Chapter 2 is 4 turnable with only ike in fixed, I wouldve preferred Random Mode, but it's too late.

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I drafted Shinon for Chapter 3. I think the one in trouble is Lucina. Chapter 2 is 4 turnable with only ike in fixed, I wouldve preferred Random Mode, but it's too late.

cept I did ch3 already :P

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cept I did ch3 already :P

Uh, care explaining how you 3 turned? That's impossible without shoving Ike iirc.

EDIT: Wait, you SKIPPED Marcia? Wtf.

EDIT 2: Mind is blown.

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