Leif Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Macbeth (Lago) can use Staves. You mean that Iago dude from the Treehouse event footage? I was noticed that female sorcerers have the same animation as male sorcerers. Perhaps they were considered to use staves at one point? Does Iago still have S rank in tomes plus the Sorcerer class bonuses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryo Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) Iago is the only Sorcerer to use staff, he can still have S-rank tome. Obviously this means that he's not playable. Edited September 9, 2015 by Ryo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffPuff Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Iago is the only Sorcerer to use staff, he can still have S-rank tome. Obviously this means that he's not playable. I'm thinking that Infinite Staff ability gives Sorcerers the privilege to use staves in addition to getting instant ten range and infinite uses. Infinite Staff ability is likely going to be enemy only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoaGalaxy Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) He still has the weapon rank without the skill I don't particularly recall if he has a staff animation though...... Edited September 9, 2015 by CocoaGalaxy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant head Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 So they have Lance Fighter for Hoshido, but didn't bring back Halberdier for Nohr? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 (edited) That's like saying why isn't swordmaster or sniper in nohr either it's basically the same class with a different name and aesthetic it doesn't need to be in 2 countries, especially with them trying to keep 1 S rank class per weapon (stones aside) Edited September 25, 2015 by Thor Odinson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Sage Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I think the archer/sniper and soldier classes should've been multifactioned. Maybe give them a different uniform or color palette depending on their affiliation. The rest of the classes are either too culturally specific (like cavalier or samurai) or are too similar to an opposing faction's class (ninjas are basically Hoshido thieves) to be multifactioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant head Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 That's like saying why isn't swordmaster or sniper in nohr either Yeah, I hadn't even realized those were the case as well. Ugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I do think it could've been cool to have some shared classes between the 2 with alt models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neofranky Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 So they have Lance Fighter for Hoshido, but didn't bring back Halberdier for Nohr? most likely because Lance Fighter is supposed to be the Soldier/Halberdier, much like bowmen, samurai/myrmidon and pegasus knights/warriors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiningpikablu252 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 most likely because Lance Fighter is supposed to be the Soldier/Halberdier, much like bowmen, samurai/myrmidon and pegasus knights/warriors. Last I checked, isn't it the Lancer that's the parallel to the Soldier of other games? http://www.fireemblemwiki.org/wiki/Lancer http://www.fireemblemwiki.org/wiki/Lance_Fighter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neofranky Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Last I checked, isn't it the Lancer that's the parallel to the Soldier of other games? http://www.fireemblemwiki.org/wiki/Lancer http://www.fireemblemwiki.org/wiki/Lance_Fighter What I'm trying to say is that Lance Fighter -> Lance in Hoshido is supposed to be the playable Soldier class, Halberdier promotion and all. It IS that class just with a different name and given to Hoshido to keep with the thematic that Hoshido has all the specialist classes (minus Berserkers because those are mostly bad guys and Hoshido definetly can't be evil) and Nohr has all the mounts (Except for Pegasus because those are the good guys, Nohr gets Wyverns because Wyverns are bad guys), and much like in the Tellus games it's broken as hell because you have essentially a lite-general without the movement restriction nor the armor weakness. The Soldier is class in Nohr is a class reserved for weak mooks as that has been a standard in the series for a while, Nohr doesn't have it as Soldier -> Halberdier because it would defeat the purpose of the Lancer class being in Hoshido in the first place and because Hoshido needs a weak enemy with a lance that isn't packed in armor or riding a horse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoaGalaxy Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Nohr Lancers aren't really weak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) Well, for Trueblades and Holy Bowman, I'd argue that the Brave Heroes and Bow Knights (I guess Adventurers too) are the Nohrian parallel to those two classes. Even though they don't have S weapon ranks, they fulfill similar combat roles, one being a frontline unit, where the latter is a support unit that attacks form a distance... It makes sense. Nohr--Hoshido Cavalier--Ninja Dark Mage--Spell Caster Rod Knight--Priest(ess) Wyvern Rider--Pegasus Warrior Fighter--Oni Savage Mercenary--Samurai Outlaw--Bowman Lancer--Lance Fighter Garou--Fox Spirit Edited October 11, 2015 by Leif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Druid Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) I don't know if you guys discussed this before, but is the the Warrior class going to be omitted in Fates? Are fighters going to promote to Heroes or Berserkers? Edited November 2, 2015 by Blue Druid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryo Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) Fighter can promote to either Hero or Berserker. Edited November 2, 2015 by Ryo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Druid Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) Soooo... No Warrior? Edited November 2, 2015 by Blue Druid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryo Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Druid Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Awwww, darn. Thanks anyway, that's what I wanted to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrayClouds23 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 What class should I change Mozume into to make her a good useable unit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psyruby Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Soooo... No Warrior? This is not 100% accurate. Warrior got a mutation on the Hoshido side. Shuras replace Warriors. They have axes, godly attack and defense, good HP and speed, specialize in Axes, have a ranged option in spells(the mutation), and even have counter, THE Warrior skill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoaGalaxy Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Shuras have low skill (though you could say the same of Warriors as well), and I would say they have low speed as well, it's pretty low anyway. Still, Warriors had lowish speed as well, so I guess it's fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Druid Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 This is not 100% accurate. Warrior got a mutation on the Hoshido side. Shuras replace Warriors. They have axes, godly attack and defense, good HP and speed, specialize in Axes, have a ranged option in spells(the mutation), and even have counter, THE Warrior skill. Wow, that sounds awesome! Is there a Nohr equivalent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gayserbeam Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Wow, that sounds awesome! Is there a Nohr equivalent? There aren't really equivalent classes between Hoshido and Nohr; every class is different (with perhaps the only exception being Hero/Blacksmith which are nearly identical). The Shura is basically a beefy Warrior who can use magic, though. There is no class in the game who can use both Axes and Bows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Druid Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Thanks for the help you guys, I appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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