Strict_Gryphon90 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Hello everyone, I was watching an FE6 Let's Play today and the player made the comment that Wendy is the worst character in any Fire Emblem game. I couldn't tell if they were exaggerating or not. Anyway I commented on their video explaining that I always use Wendy in every playthrough of FE6 and she always ends up great. We got into a debate with my argument being she's worth the effort because she has great growths and their argument being she is bad because she requires effort to be good and that effort could be spent on better characters. Your thoughts/experiences on Wendy? Some food for thought, in my current playthrough of FE6, this is how my Wendy is turning out, and I'm only on chapter 14x. I also didn't use any stat boosters on her (click to enlarge): Gryphon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I'd agree with the other guy that Wendy is the worst character in any Fire Emblem game. She essentially has the whole deck stacked against her (poor jointime, bad bases, being VERY hard to train, the whole nine yards). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zasplach Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Wendy is generally agreed to be pretty bad. She's in a class with crappy move and only lances, which have low hit and you fight lots of axed enemies. She also has really poor bases so it's a lot of work to train her up. But referring to your picture, it's the nice thing about fire emblem games, even the really dreadful characters are usable with enough TLC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strict_Gryphon90 Posted October 21, 2015 Author Share Posted October 21, 2015 I'd agree with the other guy that Wendy is the worst character in any Fire Emblem game. She essentially has the whole deck stacked against her (poor jointime, bad bases, being VERY hard to train, the whole nine yards). Fair enough. However I never had a hard time training Wendy. In chapter 8 I would put her in the space where the cracked wall was and let her kill everything. I can have her at level 8 or so by the end of the chapter. Then getting her to 20 from there is pretty standard. Wendy is generally agreed to be pretty bad. She's in a class with crappy move and only lances, which have low hit and you fight lots of axed enemies. She also has really poor bases so it's a lot of work to train her up. But referring to your picture, it's the nice thing about fire emblem games, even the really dreadful characters are usable with enough TLC. I usually just give her an axereaver. TLC? I'm not familiar with the term. Could you enlighten me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Fair enough. However I never had a hard time training Wendy. In chapter 8 I would put her in the space where the cracked wall was and let her kill everything. I can have her at level 8 or so by the end of the chapter. Then getting her to 20 from there is pretty standard. I usually just give her an axereaver. TLC? I'm not familiar with the term. Could you enlighten me? What mode are you talking about? Axereavers aren't available at the point of the game when she joins, which is the one place she has to worry more about axes than anywhere else (hence my earlier "poor jointime" comment). Anyway, TLC stands for tender loving care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zasplach Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 TLC stands for tender loving care. Yep, that. I just mean extra effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I'd argue Fiona of FE10 is even more worse off, but thats a debate for another time, shes easily one of the worst units in the series though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strict_Gryphon90 Posted October 21, 2015 Author Share Posted October 21, 2015 What mode are you talking about? Axereavers aren't available at the point of the game when she joins, which is the one place she has to worry more about axes than anywhere else (hence my earlier "poor jointime" comment). Anyway, TLC stands for tender loving care. In chapter 8 where she joins there are mostly soldiers and mercenaries (whoops, meant knights). And I believe I got an axereaver in chapter 11. And yes, In that case I give Wendy much TLC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Unless you get very lucky (the pictured Wendy I'd say is pretty blessed), she's never going to be a great unit. Her growths simply aren't good enough. That said, it's not difficult to set up kills for her with the triangle attack and she doesn't have any crippling weaknesses, so "worst unit ever" is a bit harsh. I'd agree with the other guy that Wendy is the worst character in any Fire Emblem game. She essentially has the whole deck stacked against her (poor jointime, bad bases, being VERY hard to train, the whole nine yards). Don't listen to this guy, he thinks Sophia is a great unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strict_Gryphon90 Posted October 21, 2015 Author Share Posted October 21, 2015 Unless you get very lucky (the pictured Wendy I'd say is pretty blessed), she's never going to be a great unit. Her growths simply aren't good enough. That said, it's not difficult to set up kills for her with the triangle attack and she doesn't have any crippling weaknesses, so "worst unit ever" is a bit harsh. Don't listen to this guy, he thinks Sophia is a great unit. Yeah I admit I always get really lucky with her. She's always ended up better than Bors or Barth though whenever I tried using them. I don't know, with certain characters for me they always turn out good or bad. For instance once time I played FE7 and my Erk ended up with 14 mag at 20/20. This ALWAYS happens whenever I use Erk. I guess I shouldn't mention I think Sophia is a good unit, also with some TLC. Now I'm gonna get crucified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverCrusader Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Yea she has some drawbacks but ive used her before and what ive noticed is: She seems more like a lance using myrmidon rather than an armor and after those few axe heavy chapters she gets a bit better the bad MOV sucks though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrhesia Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Pretty much every unit is good given time, care and love. Wendy and Sophia are just staggeringly shit to begin with and it's torture to have them catch up with the rest of your squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom037 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Yes, she's that bad. She comes with worse offensive stats than Thany, who's combat was considered sub par 6 chapters ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yojinbo Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Pretty much every unit is good given time, care and love. Wendy and Sophia are just staggeringly shit to begin with and it's torture to have them catch up with the rest of your squad. Except that she'll never actually turn out be as useful as any mounted unit or staff user or dancer ... or everything else will ever be because she's still held back by her lack of mobility [and speed cap]. Doesn't really matter how much "time, care and love" you invest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 If Wendy was a pegasus knight with the same bases and growths, she would be no better off. But the Serenes crowd would overrate her to hell and back because "omg flier". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybe Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 yeah wendy's bad it's funny because in fe6 a lot of character's join chapters seem like they're catering towards that character so if it's your first playthrough and you want to train them you can pretty easily like for example Oujay starts with an armorslayer and starts near a bunch of armors alternatively barth can attack those same armors, which are basically the only things he can double wendy starts in the same chapter but can be killed by almost anything that attacks her it's pretty sad apparently she can turn out good if you level her up, but she can't be worth the trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yojinbo Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 If Wendy was a pegasus knight with the same bases and growths, she would be no better off. But the Serenes crowd would overrate her to hell and back because "omg flier". Dude, Peg!Wendy would be GOAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrystalPoke Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Knights in FE6 are just not worth using them, because all of them suck. I did not use Wendy in FE6, but instead used Barth, and oh boy he ended up being my worst unit, with that poor movement he couldn't catch up with the others, even with Arena Abuse. And speaking of Arena he was a pain to train, he would get bested even by a Myrmidon. I had to RNG abuse until the arena gave me an easy opponent. The problem is not Wendy, the problem is the Knight class, in my opinion. Also omg those stats, I guess she'd get RNG blessed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Knights in FE6 are just not worth using them, because all of them suck. I did not use Wendy in FE6, but instead used Barth, and oh boy he ended up being my worst unit, with that poor movement he couldn't catch up with the others, even with Arena Abuse. And speaking of Arena he was a pain to train, he would get bested even by a Myrmidon. I had to RNG abuse until the arena gave me an easy opponent. The problem is not Wendy, the problem is the Knight class, in my opinion. Also omg those stats, I guess she'd get RNG blessed. That Arena problem is more one intrinsic to the arena itself - send in a high defense unit, and you're greeted with someone who's using a steel or even a silver weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondworld Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Regarding your argument, Wendy's growths are not good. At all. You can check that on the main site. Also iirc, on hard mode she gets ORKO'd by an archer that's near where she joins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekkah Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 If Wendy was a pegasus knight with the same bases and growths, she would be no better off. But the Serenes crowd would overrate her to hell and back because "omg flier". With those bases, especially the 3 speed? She'd probably get a bit of credit for her ferrying possibilities and end up better than most crappy characters, but nothing more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 fyi i'm the "other guy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterIceTeaPeach Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Actually not her level and bases daunt me the most, it's her class and her weapon types. Knight is my absolute least favorite class in FE because of low speed, movement and evasion. Furthermore she uses the worst melee weapon types in FE6: lances and axes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espinosa Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 With the same absolute base stats, Pegasus Knight Wendy would have 17 HP, 4 str, 5 skl, 7 spd, 6 lck, 3 def, 2 res. Inferior to base level Thany in nearly all ways, but it's hard to deny the usefulness of having an additional flier at that point of the game, especially for the Western Isles. I'm sure draft LTCers would value such a Wendy very highly much like they already value Tate (who also has unspectacular bases, but Wendy's are much poorer of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darros Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I mean she's not like FE4 Diadora but she's not good either. It's s personal experience argument. Any unit can be good if you're lucky, or if you pump enough resources into them, but she'll be outdone by almost every other FE6 character. A measure of how good someone is in FE is basically how they compare to others and stack up to enemies by using minimal resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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