DehNutCase Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 (edited) 26 minutes ago, phineas81707 said: Goad Dragons: Ena/Gareth. Hone Dragons: Nasir Ward Dragons: Kurthnaga. To be honest, Kurthnaga with Mist's C would've made more sense, since Night Tide is exactly spur res & def. If they completely keep the flavor, their C-slots would be classless. Unrelated: I don't see dragons being too viable as a '4 of' team until they get a 2 range user---being able to ding people at 2 range matters. Edit: Someone once said Karel is the person with the biggest difference between his 'canonical' strength, how the story treats him, and his in-game strength, his stats. Kurth is supposedly so strong that Ike & Co. couldn't deal with him when he popped up to save Micaiah's ass, but his stats are so bad that base Ike has a shot at wrecking his shit. Nevermind the Ike that showed up to fight Micaiah. Double Edit: Nailah would basically 1RKO Kurth while she passed by, too. Edited May 30, 2017 by DehNutCase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethany81707 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 1 minute ago, DehNutCase said: To be honest, Kurthnaga with Mist's C would've made more sense, since Night Tide is exactly spur res & def. If they completely keep the flavor, their C-slots would be classless. Unrelated: I don't see dragons being too viable as a '4 of' team until they get a 2 range user---being able to ding people at 2 range matters. Same as why Cavalry is dominant, Fliers is exclusive and Armours dawdles behind? Yes, that is a problem. And the tides were mostly as a joke for how long we're getting them. You can never make Blood Tide exactly identical anyway. Though speaking of flavour skills, do you think the dragon's Boon aura would fit into Heroes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DehNutCase Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, phineas81707 said: Same as why Cavalry is dominant, Fliers is exclusive and Armours dawdles behind? Yes, that is a problem. And the tides were mostly as a joke for how long we're getting them. You can never make Blood Tide exactly identical anyway. Though speaking of flavour skills, do you think the dragon's Boon aura would fit into Heroes? The thing dragons need isn't actually more auras, but more dragons, to be honest. There's just not enough for them for a lot of stat variation, especially considering the lolita trio are all 'trainees' and thus have 'average' stats across the board, meaning their spreads are pretty damn similar. 4 effective stat spreads isn't a lot to choose from. Some more breath weapon types would also be nice. Goad and Ward Dragons would probably be fine as auras. At most, they'd be 'decent,' not something that propels dragons instantly to insane heights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethany81707 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, DehNutCase said: The thing dragons need isn't actually more auras, but more dragons, to be honest. There's just not enough for them for a lot of stat variation, especially considering the lolita trio are all 'trainees' and thus have 'average' stats across the board, meaning their spreads are pretty damn similar. 4 effective stat spreads isn't a lot to choose from. Some more breath weapon types would also be nice. Goad and Ward Dragons would probably be fine as auras. At most, they'd be 'decent,' not something that propels dragons instantly to insane heights. Yeah, that's a problem, but not one that'll be fixed fast. We've got Bantu, Myrrh, the dragon laguz... Nah and Kana if they include the kids (which will probably happen), Idenn, Medeus, Grima for GHBS... And by 'Boon', I mean their status healing one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DehNutCase Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, phineas81707 said: And by 'Boon', I mean their status healing one. That would just be implemented as Harsh Command. Edit: Unless, of course, they add more debuffs than 'prevent counters' and 'reverse buffs' in the future. Edited May 30, 2017 by DehNutCase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
property of nuvelle Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Really hoping they bring back daily orbs or at least have more orbs for this banner. I don't want to miss out on event exclusives so I'm hoping I'll have plenty of chances to summon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord-Zero Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 (edited) 32 minutes ago, phineas81707 said: Yeah, that's a problem, but not one that'll be fixed fast. We've got Bantu, Myrrh, the dragon laguz... Nah and Kana if they include the kids (which will probably happen), Idenn, Medeus, Grima for GHBS... And by 'Boon', I mean their status healing one. You forgot Garon, Jahn, Anankos and Nagi. Mila and Duma could also be put as GHBs... Edited May 30, 2017 by Lord-Zero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethany81707 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Just now, Lord-Zero said: You forgot Garon, Jahn and Nagi. It was a quick top-of-my-head analysis that tried to catch all the major characters. Also, this is the first I've heard Garon is a dragon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord-Zero Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, phineas81707 said: It was a quick top-of-my-head analysis that tried to catch all the major characters. Also, this is the first I've heard Garon is a dragon. Garon can cover armored axe and...wait, you didn't play Birthright? Good grief. Edited May 30, 2017 by Lord-Zero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethany81707 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Just now, Lord-Zero said: Garon can cover armored axe and...wait, you didn't play Birthright? Nor Conquest, nor Revelations. It's only due to Heroes I know who half the cast is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodperson707 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 37 minutes ago, phineas81707 said: Yeah, that's a problem, but not one that'll be fixed fast. We've got Bantu, Myrrh, the dragon laguz... Nah and Kana if they include the kids (which will probably happen), Idenn, Medeus, Grima for GHBS... And by 'Boon', I mean their status healing one. Yeah not too many dragons/breath users, Jahn might be easier to portray than Idenn and could be said to be more significant in thier home game than her. (Though maybe Idenn could bring generic dragon enemies to the table) If we're bringing up weight classes on the level of Grima other dragon "gods" could be considered, Naga mainly maybe a couple others. (Forseti's potential seems darn cool to me but is doubtful) Morva isn't playable but does have a strong connection to Myrrh at least and has draco zombieness to possibly draw on. (though how'd that'd work with regards to the art and lines side I'm not sure) Nils is still there for another dragon dancer. Anyone else out there with any tether of possibility? Xane and Gotoh are dragons right, just not having dragon froms at the time of their games? Can't think of anyone else I haven't at least alluded to, now I'm a bit curious of who I might of missed. (Ah Garon, though a dragon god may be the source of that) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord-Zero Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 (edited) Oops, I guess. Well...it's kinda spoiler-ish for you but you don't seem to be interested in playing Fates at all so...yes...Garon is pretty talented and could get 2 versions. There's him and the #FE version of Tiki. Gotoh discarded his Dragonstone and Xane is unable to turn into a dragon anymore. If we can't have Naga then Nagi is a perfect alternative. Edited May 30, 2017 by Lord-Zero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethany81707 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 1 minute ago, Lord-Zero said: Oops, I guess. Well...it's kinda spoiler-ish for you but you don't seem to be interested in playing Fates at all so...yes...Garon is pretty talented and could get 2 versions. Nah. I'd like to read the scripts at some point, though. Hm... well, I guess Heroes isn't as concerned with spoilers, so dragon!Garon in some form could be perfectly possible. Makes me wonder whether they'll distribute two version of the same hero through two unique Grand Hero Battles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord-Zero Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 1 minute ago, phineas81707 said: Nah. I'd like to read the scripts at some point, though. Hm... well, I guess Heroes isn't as concerned with spoilers, so dragon!Garon in some form could be perfectly possible. Makes me wonder whether they'll distribute two version of the same hero through two unique Grand Hero Battles. They could do 2 GHBs or...Axe!Garon for GHB and Dragon!Garon as part of a Fates banner or vice-versa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, DehNutCase said: To be honest, Kurthnaga with Mist's C would've made more sense, since Night Tide is exactly spur res & def. If they completely keep the flavor, their C-slots would be classless. Unrelated: I don't see dragons being too viable as a '4 of' team until they get a 2 range user---being able to ding people at 2 range matters. Edit: Someone once said Karel is the person with the biggest difference between his 'canonical' strength, how the story treats him, and his in-game strength, his stats. Kurth is supposedly so strong that Ike & Co. couldn't deal with him when he popped up to save Micaiah's ass, but his stats are so bad that base Ike has a shot at wrecking his shit. Nevermind the Ike that showed up to fight Micaiah. Double Edit: Nailah would basically 1RKO Kurth while she passed by, too. Theres also Michalis and Sirius who get hyped to death. Except Sirius failed to live up to the hype once. Michalis failed forever And im still baffled how FE7 Eliwood is so mediocre when FE6 Eliwood is like all sorts of ridiculous things But yeah Laguz in Tellius probably took that. Im kinda surprised the Dragon kinds are regarded low on playability when iirc they are supposed to be the strongest race I think Bantu would get Hone Dragon tbh @Lord-Zero you know who can actually get 2 version? Hardin He could actually get 3 one of them being Silver Sword Hardin And then theres the clusterfuck that is Leif Edited May 30, 2017 by JSND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 50 minutes ago, DehNutCase said: To be honest, Kurthnaga with Mist's C would've made more sense, since Night Tide is exactly spur res & def. If they completely keep the flavor, their C-slots would be classless. Unrelated: I don't see dragons being too viable as a '4 of' team until they get a 2 range user---being able to ding people at 2 range matters. Edit: Someone once said Karel is the person with the biggest difference between his 'canonical' strength, how the story treats him, and his in-game strength, his stats. Kurth is supposedly so strong that Ike & Co. couldn't deal with him when he popped up to save Micaiah's ass, but his stats are so bad that base Ike has a shot at wrecking his shit. Nevermind the Ike that showed up to fight Micaiah. Double Edit: Nailah would basically 1RKO Kurth while she passed by, too. Theres also Michalis and Sirius who get hyped to death. Except Sirius failed to live up to the hype once. Michalis failed forever And im still baffled how FE7 Eliwood is so mediocre when FE6 Eliwood os hyped But yeah Laguz in Tellius probably took that. Im kinda surprised the Dragon kinds are regarded low on playability when iirc they are supposed to be the strongest race @Lord-Zero you know who can actually get 2 version? Hardin He could actually get 3 one of them being Silver Sword Hardin And then theres the clusterfuck that is Leif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord-Zero Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 @JSND: Hardin getting 2 versions would make sense. - Hardin (Cav Red Sword) to represent Shadow Dragon. - Hardin (Armored Blue Lance) to represent Mystery of the Emblem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Man, I hate June. Too many money killer events in gacha games. At least the one that gets my wallet is my one and only bride :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoirCore Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, shadowofchaos said: Man, I hate June. Too many money killer events in gacha games. At least the one that gets my wallet is my one and only bride :D Now I'm remembering how in Project X Zone 2 Lucina could change into a bride outfit and got along well with Estelle. In fact, didn't Estelle compliment Lucina's bride dress in a battle conversation in that game? :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Branniglenn Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 1 hour ago, KongDude said: Really hoping they bring back daily orbs or at least have more orbs for this banner. I don't want to miss out on event exclusives so I'm hoping I'll have plenty of chances to summon. Daily orbs will return alongside the banner. You've got to believe~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
property of nuvelle Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 59 minutes ago, Gustavos said: Daily orbs will return alongside the banner. You've got to believe~ Just remembered monthly quests too. I'm guessing I'll get at least three full summonings for this banner. then I get all red and green orbs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DehNutCase Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 So... apparently bride Cordelia has 35/35 offenses. So fair. So balanced. (R.I.P. Wallet) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 5 minutes ago, DehNutCase said: So... apparently bride Cordelia has 35/35 offenses. So fair. So balanced. (R.I.P. Wallet) You said I was crazy It turns out I underestimated her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 16 minutes ago, NoirCore said: Now I'm remembering how in Project X Zone 2 Lucina could change into a bride outfit and got along well with Estelle. In fact, didn't Estelle compliment Lucina's bride dress in a battle conversation in that game? :P I don't know since I never played that game. But her mysterious maiden outfit in Vesperia kinda looks "fancy" like the bride dress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaden Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 (edited) Ignoring the fact bride Cordelia's "seasonal", meaning she can't be normally summoned, doesn't this make all the other offensive archers completely and utterly outclassed? Her only downfall is low HP which is probably lower than Niles, Rebecca, and Setsuna. Essentially, she's Kagero, but if Kagero was as fast as Gaius. At least Faye, Gordin, Niles, and kind of Rebecca can be made into magic and physical counters. I expected something like 31 to 33 attack and 35 speed, but 35 attack and speed? Really? Edit: New page post; changed to specify who I'm taking about. Edited May 30, 2017 by Kaden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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