Xenomata Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 You think they're ever gonna make some massive banner featuring all the Resplendents someday? Like the old 4* focus banners, but a mix of Resplendent heroes of their respective rarities instead? It's odd, sure the 4* Resplendents can be summoned at any time, but the 5* locked ones have always been limited to Weekly Revivals and being pity broken by them, even now that they're in the 4* special pool there's no guarantee of actually summoning them. You get these old units in new outfits, and... now what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulously Olivier Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 On one hand, this is good art (not sure if I prefer it though) and I need more Micaiah copies. On the other, she already had good artwork and didn't need the stats. There's a lot of old units with bad performance and bad artwork that could use a new lease on life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diovani Bressan Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Micaiah looks nice, and the extra stats are welcomed. I don't mind getting Book 2 Resplendents now. Remember: this doesn't mean we will not get Gen 1 Resplendents anymore. It just means Book 2 units are now a possibility. I can't wait for Resplendent Brave Hector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 I don't like jumping forward this much, puts us that much closer to getting Resplendents of units with more current stats. That said, I do like this art. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Naut Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Aside from the "aghhh gen 2 already" factor* that's a neat and creative take on the Hel aesthetic. * - Still less cringe than Brave Ike getting one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulously Olivier Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Book 1 and 2 units are interchangeable, frankly. They're pretty much in the same spot, with book 1 units just tending to have worse fodder (which doesn't matter because powercreep has also meant that Book 2 units don't tend to have good fodder.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Fabulously Olivier said: Book 1 and 2 units are interchangeable, frankly. They're pretty much in the same spot, with book 1 units just tending to have worse fodder (which doesn't matter because powercreep has also meant that Book 2 units don't tend to have good fodder.) The difference between Book 1 and Book 2 units is that Book 2 ones are closer to Book 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulously Olivier Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, Othin said: The difference between Book 1 and Book 2 units is that Book 2 ones are closer to Book 3. Yes, but let's not get into semantics. We're only just now getting to Book 2 common weapon refines after multiple years, and those happen twice as fast as resplendents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 17 minutes ago, Fabulously Olivier said: Yes, but let's not get into semantics. We're only just now getting to Book 2 common weapon refines after multiple years, and those happen twice as fast as resplendents. They happen twice as fast, but they're also more than twice as thorough. We just jumped ahead four and a half months in a month and a half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulously Olivier Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Othin said: They happen twice as fast, but they're also more than twice as thorough. We just jumped ahead four and a half months in a month and a half. That's because resplendents aren't added in linear age fashion. Any eligible unit (and we still don't know the limits of what constitutes eligibility) could receive one at any time for any reason. That's because the primary thing they're selling is the art and the main determining factor for releasing such units is what inspiration the artists have and when finished art is available. Edited March 25, 2021 by Fabulously Olivier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercakete Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 I may not like Micaiah, but I admit that her resplendent outfit looks really good. It's neat seeing IS take inspiration from the various styles of Hel, not just the Ballistics Gel and Armor-type style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisy jane Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 17 minutes ago, Fabulously Olivier said: That's because resplendents aren't added in linear age fashion. Any eligible unit (and we still don't know the limits of what constitutes eligibility) could receive one at any time for any reason. That's because the primary thing they're selling is the art and the main determining factor for releasing such units is what inspiration the artists have and when finished art is available. and i'd also argue the accessibility of the of voice actor. Honestly to me. personally It doesn't matter who it is, and when they come because i believe everyone will get their day in the sun at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kradeelav Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Hel Micaiah doesn't feel like an unusual choice due to the a) dark affinity, and b) whole "Dark God" thing with Yune, honestly. Art's not bad - there's parts to it that I like (those colors! a nose!), and parts that I don't (the chest being accentuated a bit). That being said I'm really glad for a free OG!Micaiah so I didn't have to waste another ~100+ orbs on summoning for her on the revival banner. :D Back to grinding for 1k... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulously Olivier Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Perhaps an unpopular opinion given the whole book 1 and book 2 controversy, but I really hope this means Sothe gets one (and that it's Askr, Embla, or Hel). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRay Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 6 hours ago, Fire Emblem Fan said: Don't like that we're getting Micaiah, not at all. Way too many older Book I units that need it more, and not just unpopular or not-noteworthy ones, either. Ephraim, Celica, Sigurd, Seliph, Chrom, heck we don't even have a healer yet so Mist. I would argue most player phase nukes need the extra stats much less than their dual phase and enemy phase counterparts, and the bump in HP is detrimental for Desperation and Wings of Mercy, especially at low merges. The Atk/Spd+2 does help balance that out though, and at high merges, an extra 2 HP is not going to be noticeable nor make much of a difference. I would still prefer that they stick to gen I too though, and if they do make Resplendents for gen II, I wish they give some gen I Resplendents an extra bump in BST to update their stats to be more in line with gen II. And having a second round of Refinements for some of the first Refined Weapons would be nice too. As is, Fujin Yumi is very niche for example, and I do not see it being very relevant in any mode right now. At the bare minimum, I would add the original effect back in and remove all HP requirements. That way, he would at least be more useful in Resonant Battles. 6 hours ago, Tybrosion said: Not that I necessarily agree with this move either (even though I like Micaiah in particular), but Book II isn't all that much better off themselves these days. Even after the Resplendent boost, this is how Micaiah looks compared to Marianne: Micaiah: 37/37/30/20/37/161, HP is her only super asset Marianne: 36/41/32/17/39/165, has a super asset in Atk and Res If we are looking at max investment to take into account Flowers, they are pretty similar. Micaiah will always have +10 Flower advantage compared to gen V infantry units. Micaiah: 39/39/32/22/39 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Emblem Fan Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 7 hours ago, Sayyyaka said: I guess IS would rather move onto book 2 than give any obsolete gen 1 units a boost in stats I would hardly call Catria, Celica, Lilina, Sigurd, Nino, Ephraim, Cherche, Ryoma, etc. obsolete. I encounter Book I units in the Arena and other PvP modes constantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 33 minutes ago, XRay said: If we are looking at max investment to take into account Flowers, they are pretty similar. Micaiah will always have +10 Flower advantage compared to gen V infantry units. Micaiah: 39/39/32/22/39 If you add the stats from their exclusive weapons, Marianne still ends up with a dominating lead in Atk while almost fully closing the gap in bulk against Distant Counter units. Micaiah: 39/58/32/22/47 Marianne: 36/64/32/23/45 Micaiah's only real advantage is effective damage. She also has a slightly easier time activating Desperation using Sacrifice. That said, I have Micaiah and I don't have Marianne, so I'll take what I can get, and a +10 Resplendent Micaiah is going to beat out a +0 Marianne, especially for getting rid of pesky armors in Arena Assault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverserpent Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 My +10 Miccy will totally take that stat boost! I just hope some other characters get the upgrade. I wouldn't mind Resplendent Laslow, Ninian, Ephraim, Chrom, or Olivia. As in, all characters I've built or am building... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naoshi Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Not a fan of new Micaiah outfit. 15 days to decide if I want to break my f2p status for her or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRay Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 53 minutes ago, Ice Dragon said: If you add the stats from their exclusive weapons, Marianne still ends up with a dominating lead in Atk while almost fully closing the gap in bulk against Distant Counter units. Micaiah: 39/58/32/22/47 Marianne: 36/64/32/23/45 Micaiah's only real advantage is effective damage. She also has a slightly easier time activating Desperation using Sacrifice. That said, I have Micaiah and I don't have Marianne, so I'll take what I can get, and a +10 Resplendent Micaiah is going to beat out a +0 Marianne, especially for getting rid of pesky armors in Arena Assault. Micaiah has a slightly easier time with her guaranteed follow-ups. It is not a big deal and it is pretty easy to work around, but Marianne has team comp and positioning requirements to trigger her guaranteed follow-ups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naoshi Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 I just realized, since we getting Micaiah's resplandent, Does it mean we wont getting Legendary Micaiah any time soon? Specially since we will be getting B!Micaiah weapon refine later this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenomata Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Naoshi said: I just realized, since we getting Micaiah's resplandent, Does it mean we wont getting Legendary Micaiah any time soon? Specially since we will be getting B!Micaiah weapon refine later this year. I don't think that's an issue. Even then, they're gonna run out of units to turn into legendary alts soon enough (Sigurd, Robin but not evil, Elincia, Xander, Corrin but with a Yato, Byleth) and I'm not too sure how many more times they can pull a Lilina. Edited March 25, 2021 by Xenomata Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulously Olivier Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 20 minutes ago, Xenomata said: I don't think that's an issue. Even then, they're gonna run out of units to turn into legendary alts soon enough (Sigurd, Robin but not evil, Elincia, Xander, Corrin but with a Yato, Byleth) and I'm not too sure how many more times they can pull a Lilina. They could definitely pull a Lilina with Elincia, Sothe, Yuri, and every Fates royal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverserpent Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Fabulously Olivier said: They could definitely pull a Lilina with Elincia, Sothe, Yuri, and every Fates royal. It would only be fair to give Yuri a Legendary alt since the other House leaders have one. I doubt it's how they'll debut him, though. And I'm still waiting for that Legendary Xander! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, silverserpent said: It would only be fair to give Yuri a Legendary alt since the other House leaders have one. I doubt it's how they'll debut him, though. And I'm still waiting for that Legendary Xander! Speaking of unusual characters, another option is Itsuki. Edited March 25, 2021 by Othin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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