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Just now, JSND Alter Dragon Boner said:

Yeah, as a base point you can assume around 20 quartz per month

Thanks. I really need to save then. Tho from what I heard there's also a quartz package given for logging in several days straight

[LuxSpes]

3 minutes ago, silveraura25 said:

Off the basis of events being predicted based off of the JP version, is there anyways to estimate how many quartz can be obtained in certain time periods like months?

From what I understand, there's sometimes difference between what we get vs what JP got, but the OP of this reddit thread calculated how much Quartz we should in the next 6 months.

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

1 minute ago, silveraura25 said:

Thanks. I really need to save then. Tho from what I heard there's also a quartz package given for logging in several days straight

@LuxSpes linked post made me realize i get it wrong, the base assumption is 24 SQ. Basically the 24 i mentioned was the standard weekly amount per month, but iirc new players does get some extra for a while

 

But thats only weekly. Events and such is a bit different

[Silverly]

Notable people I want include Ishtar, Illya, Ereshkigal, Summer Artoria, and Okita. 

In terms of non-SSRs, I’d like to finally get Umu-chan (Nero), loli Medea, and Saber Alter though they’re all story locked so rip that dream ever happening.

Then... there’s vanilla Medea who still hasn’t come home since the beginning and is the only 3* that I’ve never gotten outside of Romulus who idgaf. Please game, I need my mage mom!

[Shiki]

You know the only thing I'm getting from our lucky recaps is a horrible fate in 2019 as karma.

On 2.1.2019 at 9:34 PM, silveraura25 said:

Off the basis of events being predicted based off of the JP version, is there anyways to estimate how many quartz can be obtained in certain time periods like months?

On a weekly basis you get 6 SQ. You obtain 4 SQ each week through the daily login and you obtain 2 SQ by completing Master missions (weekly missions basically). At the 7th day you get a Summon Ticket (which is basically a free pull).
At the shop you can buy 5 Summon Ticket each month. Make sure you get them, unlike FEH they do not expire so it's more summons for you.
So that's 24 SQ and 9 Tickets each month (without events, social network rewards or other factors included).

There is another login reward based on total amount of logins. Basically for every 50 consecutive days you get 20 additional SQ (JP increased it to 30 at the 3rd anniversary celebration and all players were retroactively rewarded the difference). Try to keep your login streak, you don't want to miss those SQ, do you?

Since you just started the game you will profit from the Start Dash campaign. That adds 28 SQ and 10 Tickets to the 12 SQ you get from clearing the tutorial and the prologue plus some other useful goodies (like Golden Apples).

EDIT:
Pretty much all the Story and the Free Quests from the singularities award you with SQ as well so that's another source of funds.

Edited January 4, 2019 by Magus of Memery
Fixing numbers.

[Sire]

2 hours ago, Glaceon Mage said:

NR's main source of damage isn't her NP, it's her art crits.  Self Modification is one hell of a drug.  She's also really tanky, with the high morph rank and heal, and her  fairly spammable due to art crit + battery NP has a charge drain chance to further help her stall.

She does need some 2030's to help her keep going though.  

I was mainly looking for an NP wave clear to kill assassins, so that's probably why I was disappointed in NR. I'm too used to just using NPs to clear out mobs (which is my general strat for story missions, switching to ST when a boss or a huge enemy is involved). When it's time for single target damage, I bring out Medea and try to buff her as much as possible. Crit Jalter is probably better and universal, but I automatically try to counter enemy class advantage.

I haven't put much thought into a stall team or trying to use NR as a critical caster. I suppose NR + Tamamo + Waver can be a combo for a stall team, but I'm still in the mindset of "kill stuff now instead of later." Maybe when the bosses get tougher and start using multiple HP bars I'll find more value in NR. For now I'll probably focus my caster materials elsewhere.

[Magical Glace]

2 minutes ago, Sire said:

I was mainly looking for an NP wave clear to kill assassins, so that's probably why I was disappointed in NR. I'm too used to just using NPs to clear out mobs (which is my general strat for story missions, switching to ST when a boss or a huge enemy is involved). When it's time for single target damage, I bring out Medea and try to buff her as much as possible. Crit Jalter is probably better and universal, but I automatically try to counter enemy class advantage.

I haven't put much thought into a stall team or trying to use NR as a critical caster. I suppose NR + Tamamo + Waver can be a combo for a stall team, but I'm still in the mindset of "kill stuff now instead of later." Maybe when the bosses get tougher and start using multiple HP bars I'll find more value in NR. For now I'll probably focus my caster materials elsewhere.

Yeah, if you're not trying for a scummy stall comp with some 2030 she can be pretty underwhelming.  

See if you can get some use out of her in Shinjuku I guess (that's when multiple HP bars start to be a thing).  

[QKumber]

Oh a 2018 recap sounds interesting

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I started playing back in Okeanos release, and was slowly playing the game until 1st christmas came around. By the end of 2017 I had: Waver np1 / Jeanne / Okita / OG Seibah / Scathach and Tamamo.

2018 starts with SaberWars and I was in the zone after 1st lotto event! Spammed SaberWars like no tomorrow for 60+ hearts. No gacha for me.

In January Brynhilda banner happenned, and I wanted Fionn >> anyone. Alas, gacha is a fickle lady and granted me with Bryn + Beowulf and no Fionn in 450sq

Valentines had the 1st servant I really wanted on the year: Bride. And Gacha was mercifull after the Fionn fiasco! I think I`ve used like 450 SQ + 50 tickets for Np3 Bride + 3x AnneMary + NRhyme and 2 Lizzies (had 0 before), Atalanta and Fran. GREAT start.

Don`t remember why, but apparently I`ve rolled 30sq during KnK which got me ZerkLot #1. Probably for the CEs, I love the art on KnK CEs.

Planned to save until JttW but got baited with all the JAlter hype. Rolled a good 210 sq before she shown up. In hindsight, this is the only gacha I regret rolling for... I just don`t like using her.

JttW comes and I am in love with Sanzang! Rolled all I had (450sq + all the tickets): end results were np2 Li + Heracles + Astolfo and spook Waver (first of many). Biggest disappointment and the main reason I regret rolling for JAlter the month before.

June comes and the 3M download campaign aswell! 450sq in the gacha for np2 Sca and Helena. Soon after the Onigashima event started, and I got my 1st Altera and Ibaraki in a single 10 spin.

GSSR in July: got Drake (my most wanted) and a random Ozy (which was a fine extra).

Summer1 was tough but I resisted the urge to roll for SurferMordred, got Angra as a consolation prize. Summer2 I went bals deep: 900sq + tickets for Np3 Squirtle + np7 Martha and Marie + 1st Saberlot and my 3rd Waver. Also, got my first ever Kaleidoscope, which was amazing!!!

Illya event: skip

Nerofest: 1 roll got OG Nero which was nice xD

Halloween 2: this was the reason I had an alt account, was saving since saberwars and NEVER rolled on this alt. 171 tickets + 900 something SQ = no Cleopatra. I got suuuper bummed and said FUCK it, rolling on my main aswell. 420sq there, np2 cleo + np5 Vlad and of course my boy Waver appears again (np4 now).

Round table banner I had like couple tickets and stuff, and the banner gave me Tristan which IDK what to do with him yet :P

Babylonia 2 is finally here: 1020 SQ + 17 tickets = np3 Quetz + Nightngale + 5 Gorgons + Siegfried + Nitocris/Beowulf and Ibaraki (np2 for those). Ah and of course, rainbow orbs caster appear here, and I was like: "Oh finally np5 Waver" and BAM! Sanzang spooks! I was SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO relieved hahaha

GSSR: rolled rider for maybe Quetz or anyother np upgrades. Got Ozy which was my 3rd choice (only Medb would be meh imo)

Satisfied and can`t really complain too much about being unlucky, specially towards the end. I only wish I did not had so many wavers :P

SRs were just too many, my only REAL concern is the fact I NEVER rolled Fionn, and I want the dude >>

SSRs acquired:

3 Quetz

3 ArcherArtoria

3 Nero Bride

3 Waver

2 Cleopatra

2 Ozymandias

1 Scathach

1 Sanzang

1 Nightngale

1 Brynhilda

1 Drake

1 Altera

1 Jalter

total: 23 in 2018 => 29

phew

[DehNutCase]

The problem with using Casters v. Assassins is that .9 * 2 = 1.9, versus Beserkers' 1.1 * 1.5 = 1.65, meaning it's only ~15% better, which is very uncomfortable considering Casters' generally low Atk and Beserkers' generally sky high Atk.

Defensively casters are way better vs. assassins, of course, but Rulers are basically the defensive versions of Beserkers if you actually cared about taking less damage for whatever reason.

 

Offensive caster is just too narrow as a niche, since the enemy lineup has to be freakishly assassin biased for them to be worth bringing for pure damage/tankiness reasons. (On the plus side, Casters being Casters means that even offensive casters usually have extremely good support, like Sanzang's Taunt, Nero's 50% Atk up, etc.)

[MrSmokestack]

48 minutes ago, DehNutCase said:

Defensively casters are way better vs. assassins, of course, but Rulers are basically the defensive versions of Beserkers if you actually cared about taking less damage for whatever reason.

Found the non-JP player.

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Quip aside, Berserkers without any survivability are basically dead in the water for most CQs. I agree that offensive Casters are not that much better than Berserkers if you just need to nuke a Soul Eater, but weaker lineups that can’t explode stuff as hard will want the damage reduction.

Then again, I use Summer BB as my main DPS in basically every CQ since I’ve rolled her. Never had much of a reason to use class advantage for offensive or defensive reasons once my box was more established.

48 minutes ago, DehNutCase said:

Offensive caster is just too narrow as a niche, since the enemy lineup has to be freakishly assassin biased for them to be worth bringing for pure damage/tankiness reasons. (On the plus side, Casters being Casters means that even offensive casters usually have extremely good support, like Sanzang's Taunt, Nero's 50% Atk up, etc.)

There’s also Sheba / Caster Shuten for nukers, and Circe / Scheherazade for point servants. I find the latter two to be severely underrated as they offer excellent stall to the team. The number of CQs that Schez can explode with her NP is not uncommon either.

[DehNutCase]

14 minutes ago, MrSmokestack said:

Found the non-JP player.

I mean, Herc is so trivial to get that if survival is an issue there's no excuse for not having someone at least comparably survivable.

 

That said, the issue isn't so much that Casters are never worth bringing as the fact that Beserkers are almost always worth bringing. It's just cheaper to invest in a small number of generalists than a ton of specialists, even if you invest less individually to the specialists. (And the fact that Grails and Gold Fou exist rewards investing in a small number of units even more.)

[Jingle Jangle]

12 minutes ago, DehNutCase said:

I mean, Herc is so trivial to get that if survival is an issue there's no excuse for not having someone at least comparably survivable.

 

That said, the issue isn't so much that Casters are never worth bringing as the fact that Beserkers are almost always worth bringing. It's just cheaper to invest in a small number of generalists than a ton of specialists, even if you invest less individually to the specialists. (And the fact that Grails and Gold Fou exist rewards investing in a small number of units even more.)

While that is true of most of the content of the game. Generalists have difficulty in challenge quests and certain boss fights. Just take a look at the last Nerofest for an example.

[MrSmokestack]

12 minutes ago, DehNutCase said:

I mean, Herc is so trivial to get that if survival is an issue there's no excuse for not having someone at least comparably survivable.

Having a Bond 10 Herc myself, him by himself is no longer adequate for most CQs. 

Cu Alter + 5 taunters is still god though.

12 minutes ago, DehNutCase said:

It's just cheaper to invest in a small number of generalists than a ton of specialists, even if you invest less individually to the specialists. (And the fact that Grails and Gold Fou exist rewards investing in a small number of units even more.)

Yeah this is pretty much how I look at it. I got no reason to roll new servants when grailed Jeanne Alter with the usual supports can cheese every CQ. Ditto in JP using BB.

I like having lots of different units to experiment with, but if I’m bored and just need to beat something I use the same team in almost every situation.

[DehNutCase]

2 minutes ago, Jingle Jangle said:

While that is true of most of the content of the game. Generalists have difficulty in challenge quests and certain boss fights. Just take a look at the last Nerofest for an example.

I mean, I went in semi-blind to the Nerofest CQ's and cleared a fair amount in the first attempt. (MLB Guts CE just gave way too much damage and survivability.) Of course, it was also a case of being carried by my 5*s & OG!Nero---who the fights were designed around, it was pretty obvious she was meant to be amazing in the CQs.

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

2 hours ago, DehNutCase said:

I mean, Herc is so trivial to get that if survival is an issue there's no excuse for not having someone at least comparably survivable.

 

That said, the issue isn't so much that Casters are never worth bringing as the fact that Beserkers are almost always worth bringing. It's just cheaper to invest in a small number of generalists than a ton of specialists, even if you invest less individually to the specialists. (And the fact that Grails and Gold Fou exist rewards investing in a small number of units even more.)

Heracles is like G O D but his range is just around 400-600k and even then it can be shaky. You pretty much need to learn dodge manipulation(e.g. purposefully lowering damage so enemy didnt cast dodge in response) later on to get by on some stages

 

Also the #1 reaosn i still valued Offensive Caster over Zerk is because Offensive Caster can reliably nuke down 200k marks, while also having enough refill to be expected to NP again for the current buff rotation. This helps a lot when using Black Grail and Black grail is the best CE in the entire game

Edited January 3, 2019 by JSND Alter Dragon Boner

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@Magus of MemeryHuge thanks. The more I think about the better odds I'll have getting summer Martha. If the gacha doesn't screw me over just like the simulations. Hahaha

Can story servants like Altoria Alter (lancer) be summoned from summoning focuses other than the story one?

Other than the welfare SR servants, I saw pics showing you could pick a free SR from the regular summoning pool. Was that a anniversary thing?

[Magical Glace]

25 minutes ago, silveraura25 said:

Can story servants like Altoria Alter (lancer) be summoned from summoning focuses other than the story one?

Nope, it's a pretty dumb mechanic all things considered.  Treat Story-locks like they're limited, since they might as well be aside from:  

25 minutes ago, silveraura25 said:

Other than the welfare SR servants, I saw pics showing you could pick a free SR from the regular summoning pool. Was that a anniversary thing?

This happens twice, one in late Summer this year and one in November-ish next year.  you can pick either a regular pool or story locked, so Summer servants, Passionlip, and Fujino are excluded.

Edited January 3, 2019 by Glaceon Mage

[redlight]

2 hours ago, Glaceon Mage said:

Nope, it's a pretty dumb mechanic all things considered.  Treat Story-locks like they're limited, since they might as well be aside from:  

This happens twice, one in late Summer this year and one in November-ish next year.  you can pick either a regular pool or story locked, so Summer servants, Passionlip, and Fujino are excluded.

Dumb indeed. Tho I heard JP has a few things improved on since they're ahead. Same for this dumb mechanic? Anyways, huge thanks

[Magical Glace]

1 minute ago, silveraura25 said:

Dumb indeed. Tho I heard JP has a few things improved on since they're ahead. Same for this dumb mechanic? Anyways, huge thanks

Story locks haven't really gotten any better, no.  Sadly.

[Sire]

8 hours ago, silveraura25 said:

Can story servants like Altoria Alter (lancer) be summoned from summoning focuses other than the story one?

For the most part, no. However, sometimes story locks do appear on rate-ups alongside other Servants, so that may be the best time to get them if you do not want to try your luck in the Story Summon. Check the upcoming summoning banners for more details. (For Artoria Alter [Lancer]), there's a Lance Class rateup in March and August. Then there's Merlin and the Artorias in September. There may be more, but those are some noticeable ones that I've seen.)

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1 hour ago, Sire said:

For the most part, no. However, sometimes story locks do appear on rate-ups alongside other Servants, so that may be the best time to get them if you do not want to try your luck in the Story Summon. Check the upcoming summoning banners for more details. (For Artoria Alter [Lancer]), there's a Lance Class rateup in March and August. Then there's Merlin and the Artorias in September. There may be more, but those are some noticeable ones that I've seen.)

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Thanks. For a moment when searching Cirno I was confused, but turns out they made a typo mixing up lancer alter with saber alter. Anyways, every day different units featured on the summoning campaign?

[Sire]

1 hour ago, redlight said:

Thanks. For a moment when searching Cirno I was confused, but turns out they made a typo mixing up lancer alter with saber alter. Anyways, every day different units featured on the summoning campaign?

Here's a link to when Artoria Alter (Lancer) appears on the banner: https://grandorder.wiki/Altria_Pendragon_(Lancer_Alter)/Campaigns

From what I understand on the Class Rate Ups, only that class will be available to summon. As Artoria Lancer (Alter) shares her 4* rate with other 4* Lancers, it may be difficult getting the Lancer you want. For Merlin + Artorias, I think she just appears on the banner but doesn't have the rate-up.

If you don't want to try your luck on getting her through the gacha, you can always try and just use the 4* Ticket to get her in September. Personally, I'm planning on getting Gorgon as my 4* (If I do get her beforehand, maybe Medusa Lancer or Saber Alter instead).

(Off Topic, but I discovered that best boy Bedivere is voiced by the same guy who voiced Okabe in Steins;Gate. I knew he voiced Jekyll & Hyde, but not Bedivere!)

[redlight]

39 minutes ago, Sire said:

Here's a link to when Artoria Alter (Lancer) appears on the banner: https://grandorder.wiki/Altria_Pendragon_(Lancer_Alter)/Campaigns

From what I understand on the Class Rate Ups, only that class will be available to summon. As Artoria Lancer (Alter) shares her 4* rate with other 4* Lancers, it may be difficult getting the Lancer you want. For Merlin + Artorias, I think she just appears on the banner but doesn't have the rate-up.

If you don't want to try your luck on getting her through the gacha, you can always try and just use the 4* Ticket to get her in September. Personally, I'm planning on getting Gorgon as my 4* (If I do get her beforehand, maybe Medusa Lancer or Saber Alter instead).

(Off Topic, but I discovered that best boy Bedivere is voiced by the same guy who voiced Okabe in Steins;Gate. I knew he voiced Jekyll & Hyde, but not Bedivere!)

Thanks. But yeah, MM sneaks in when you least expect it

[Silverly]

When are supposed to get a Caster rate up by any chance?

[Silverly]

The galeforce is with me

Edited January 4, 2019 by Silverly