SatsumaFSoysoy Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 (edited) Ephraim and Eirika, Restoration King and Queen of the Kingdom of Renais and children of Fado, challenge us to battle. Map Lunatic Spoiler Infernal Spoiler Infernal Enemy Data Ephraim Spoiler HP: 73 Atk: 58 Spd: 31 Def: 38 Res: 25 Weapon: SiegmundAssist: PivotSpecial: Moonbow (charged) A: Fury 3B: Obstruct 3C: Threaten Def 3 Eirika Spoiler HP: 67 Atk: 45 Spd: 39 Def: 29 Res: 31 Weapon: SieglindeAssist: PivotSpecial: Moonbow (charged) A: Armored Blow 3B: Drag BackC: Hone Spd 3 Blue Mage Spoiler HP: 52 Atk: 47 Spd: 35 Def: 22 Res: 31 Weapon: Blárblade+Assist: Rally Atk/SpdSpecial: Luna A: Warding Blow 3B: Guard 3C: Atk Smoke 3 Green Mage Cav Spoiler HP: 46 Atk: 52 Spd: 28 Def: 19 Res: 38 Weapon: Gronnblade+Assist: Rally Atk/SpdSpecial: Miracle A: Defiant Atk 3B: Vantage 3C: Drive Atk 3 Sword Cavalier Spoiler HP: 57 Atk: 53 Spd: 27 Def: 28 Res: 33 Weapon: Silver Sword 3Assist: Rally Atk/SpdSpecial: Growing Flame A: Darting Blow 3B: LungeC: Hone Atk 3 Thief Spoiler HP: 50 Atk: 38 Spd: 43 Def: 15 Res: 35 Weapon: Rogue Dagger+Assist: Rally Atk/SpdSpecial: Iceberg A: Armored Blow 3B: Poison Strike 3C: Panic Ploy 3 Edited September 7, 2017 by SatsumaFSoysoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted September 6, 2017 Author Share Posted September 6, 2017 (edited) Strategy - If you break the block above your starting position, there is a spot where the Thief can't reach but the two mages can, which is easier than baiting three units at a time. - Just like the Cecilia and Lilina BHB, the safest way to start this map is by getting a kill instead of baiting. However, compared to the C&L BHB, doing so is much more unsafe, so consider your options. - Unlike the C&L BHB, when baiting was a fairly good idea, it is extremely dangerous to engage the Twins in direct combat due to their inflated stats and charged Moonbow. Take advantage of their melee range. - Panic Ploy Armors can find some use in this map, but take care with positioning. Recommended units References - INFERNAL Roy solo by Roltair Member clears - DefaultBeep (Reinhardt / Azura / Brave Lyn / Cecilia) - Rafiel's Aria (Reinhardt / Azura / Brave Lyn / Olivia) - Bartozio (Nino / Reinhardt / Klein / Olivia) - SatsumaFSoysoy (Reinhardt / Azura / Brave Lyn / Olivia) - Xenomata NO REINHARDT (Frederick / Ninian / Eirika / Brave Lyn) - LordFrigid NO REINHARDT (Brave Lyn / Camus / 4* Eliwood / Olivia) - Hilda NO REINHARDT OR BRAVE LYN (Ursula / Cecilia / Olivia / Brave Lucina) Edited September 7, 2017 by SatsumaFSoysoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 I hef Roi muh bodeh es rede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted September 6, 2017 Author Share Posted September 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, JSND said: I hef Roi muh bodeh es rede But can Roy Panic Ploy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 37 minutes ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said: But can Roy Panic Ploy? What is a panic ploy to horusu emburemu backed by Etrurian Scum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethany81707 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Hm... Valter has Panic Ploy. I don't have him at 5* yet, but for the delicious irony... NO! Stop it! I have Tana in my barracks! I must fight with slightly more dignity. Tana? You wanna help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefyingFates Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Are we just assuming/ using past experience to predict Panic Ploy will be in play here or do we know for sure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethany81707 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 9 minutes ago, DefyingFates said: Are we just assuming/ using past experience to predict Panic Ploy will be in play here or do we know for sure? Joke based on the Sivardson twins being buffbots. Also, Def Ploy is god-tier, so Panic Ploy should be... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartozio Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Valter is my only unit with Panic Ploy, and I don't have him trained up yet... I guess I'll just have to hope that my usual strategy of trowing Reinhardt at all of my problems works here... (he should be able to kill the twins without a problem at the very least). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelaar Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 No panic ploy damnit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsilas Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Hmmm maybe that gives me reason to actually train Valter. Maybe Legion can join in with his Panic effect axe against Ephraim while Valter deals with Eirika? Wonder how many bladetome mages there will be in the map.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefyingFates Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 3 hours ago, mcsilas said: Hmmm maybe that gives me reason to actually train Valter. Maybe Legion can join in with his Panic effect axe against Ephraim while Valter deals with Eirika? Wonder how many bladetome mages there will be in the map.. Huh, that may be a good idea...my Valter is only 4* but I could give him the HP+3 Seal to compensate. I bet he'd be very happy about fighting Eirika, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 While I do have Panic Ploy, I'm absolutely certain that the boss units will have far more HP than that. Instead, I'll have Ephraim use Swordbreaker on his sister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 18 minutes ago, eclipse said: While I do have Panic Ploy, I'm absolutely certain that the boss units will have far more HP than that. I suppose with hit and run tactics, Savage Blow, etc, you might be able to whittle them down enough to be in Panic Ploy range. Only other things I could think of would be straight up using a Panic staff or maybe even Legion's Axe with Windsweep or a unit like Amelia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sproutling Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 (edited) ...People use Panic Ploy in PvE? How? It seems like most enemies in Lunatic (and definitely Infernal) have 60+ HP. Zephiel can barely reach that. I suppose it would still work after you've already lowered their HP, but then it hardly matters since your units are just going to one-shot them at that point anyway. Edited September 7, 2017 by Sproutling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsilas Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 I don't think my newly levelled 4 star Valter will do much with Panic Ploy anyway, but at least I trained him up I guess Panic staff user with Wrathful Assault would be better to use against enemy bladetome mages? Who do you think the banner will feature? Eirikia, Ephraim and maybe Seth for the third? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roflolxp54 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 23 minutes ago, Sproutling said: ...People use Panic Ploy in PvE? How? It seems like most enemies in Lunatic (and definitely Infernal) have 60+ HP. Zephiel can barely reach that. I suppose it would still work after you've already lowered their HP, but then it hardly matters since your units are just going to one-shot them at that point anyway. Zephiel can hit 69 HP as shown here on Reddit: Being 5*, having merges, HP +3 seal, summoner support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 20 minutes ago, Roflolxp54 said: Zephiel can hit 69 HP as shown here on Reddit: Being 5*, having merges, HP +3 seal, summoner support. Imagine if he ever gets to be a TT bonus unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korath88 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 (edited) Beat it. Strategy? Uh...horse emblem? Seriously though, horses make this way too easy. B!Lyn one rounds both mages since she ignores blade buffs. Bladetome Cecilia oneshotting Ephraim through his 73 HP was hilarious Edited September 7, 2017 by Korath88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mampfoid Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 With my standard arena team (Nino, Xander, Azura & Brave Lucina) i could beat hard & lunatic on first try. Before i'll go for infernal i'll need some stamina and time. The skills of these Blade-mages change already from hard to lunatic. I'm curious for infernal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DehNutCase Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 (edited) Inferno would've been easier than Lunatic... IF Azura didn't have WoM 1, lul. WoM 2 meant that Lunatic doesn't trigger but Inferno does from Bow Lyn (Bow Lyn takes more from Ninja, so triggers WoM easier), WoM 3 would've meant that they both maps trigger. Ended up spending 1 run in Lunatic and 2 runs in Inferno before I realized she had WoM 1 rather than 2 or 3. (Map's pretty easy in general, and I bet I could've found a team that didn't need any SIs over what I already had, but Azura wants WoM 3 anyway---and it'll save me these 'WTF, Why do you only have WoM 1 moments later---so I fed Cain to her.) Edited September 7, 2017 by DehNutCase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelaar Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 I beat Normal with my team of Gordin, Athena, Julia and Ephraim, which involves smiting gordin into a wave of enemies. Now, let's see how I can win Lunatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethany81707 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 I gave Nino Resistance +3 and the third Squad Ace seal for Lunatic. Don't think just that will help Infernal. Might need careful thought for my team for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefaultBeep Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Hard and Lunatic went down pretty easy to Julia, Reinhardt, Azura, and Eirika (fitting), but Infernal will take a bit more thought. Have a feeling that horse buffs will be more than helpful, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted September 7, 2017 Author Share Posted September 7, 2017 Beat Hard and Lunatic, but hrm... Infernal has walled me on my first two tries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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